CloudEngineer Posted January 14, 2003 Share Posted January 14, 2003 (edited) Neo Version 1.0.750We are currently working on version 1.0.750 which will be a cross platform client. ?It will work with Linux, MacOs, Windows, Sun, and on your Xbox! ?We should have a private beta available soon. ?Our data servers are currently offline until version 1.0.750 is online. ?Last we counted we have around 25,000 computers, in order to keep the data flowing we had to do a few modifications, it will be available soon. The Neo Project is committing 100% of its client resources to factoring the X-Box/2048 bit encryption key. Factoring of the X-Box encryption key is fully compliant with sections 1201©, 1201(f), 1201(g) and 1201(i) of the DMCA governing circumvention of copyright protection systems and other applicable law. The Neo Project deems this effort socially responsible and of great practical import for the following reasons: Distributed Computing research requires a large volunteer pool to maximize information return and contribute to our knowledge in the areas of DC client-server communication and operational efficiency. The X-Box encryption key is an attractive real-world "target" likely to draw a large volunteer pool while preserving third-party intellectual property rights; Factoring of the RSA challenges to date has shown that theoretical security margins for large keys are dramatically different than real-world security margins. In particular, the RSA-140 challenge took 1 month of sieving at a cost of 8.9 CPU years. The RSA team estimated that the RSA-155 factoring should be 7.2 times harder in terms of time. In fact, the RSA-155 factoring was accomplished in 3.7 months at a cost of 35.7 CPU years. It was only 4 times harder, all things otherwise being equal. Just how secure is a 2048 bit key? No one, except perhaps a government, really knows. The Neo Project intends to find out. Why is this important? No one uses 600 bit keys in their security implementations anymore. Even e-mail is secured with 2048 bit keys. Your bank may rely on this encryption to protect your money. Networks may rely on this level of encryption to prevent access to public utilities and telecommunications. Factoring of the X-Box key has research and social implications well beyond interest in the game console. The right to engage in encryption research is governed by 1201(g) of the DMCA. The Neo Project will comply with the provisions of that subsection in the course of this project. What will The Neo Project do with the key if it successfully factors it? First and foremost, The Neo Project will not violate any laws nor infringe anyone's intellectual property rights. There is no intention to publicly release the key. Notwithstanding that, acquisition of the key will enable The Neo Project and others to engage in legal research under section 1201(f) and section 1201(i) of the DMCA. Section 1201(f) entitles a person to circumvent a technological measure for research purposes to achieve interoperability of an independently created computer program with other programs. This is the right to "reverse-engineer" for compatibility purposes. What implication this may have for those intending to operate Linux systems on the X-Box remains undetermined. Section 1201(i) entitles circumvention of a technological measure if that measure, or the program it protects, contains the capability to collect or disseminate personally identifying information reflecting the online activities of a person. X-Box Live is just now being released to the public. Nevertheless, The Neo Project is unaware of any Micrsoft statement declaring the X-Box incapable of these measures. In contrast, the work of Andrew Huang while at the MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory, reflects that the serial number of the game console is electronically stored and "probably accessible to the kernel." This serial number, coupled with registration information, presents significant privacy issues for those participating on the Microsoft X-Box Live network. Decryption of the bootloader and kernel will aid in alleviating these privacy concerns and is fully compliant with the intent of section 1201(i). While The Neo Project recognizes that people in the DC community will have differences of opinion regarding this project, we welcome all contributors interesting in helping us reach our goal and answer these questions. Thank you. Source: The Neo Project Edited January 15, 2003 by DJ^TuRKiYe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MxxCon Posted January 14, 2003 Share Posted January 14, 2003 and what the hell is Neo Version 1.0.750 i'm too lazy to go to their site Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gigapixels Veteran Posted January 14, 2003 Veteran Share Posted January 14, 2003 i have absolutely no clue, even after checkin out the site... maybe i'm too lazy to read enough... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxikk Veteran Posted January 14, 2003 Veteran Share Posted January 14, 2003 some sort of www client?! :blink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Dorr Veteran Posted January 14, 2003 Veteran Share Posted January 14, 2003 Someone didn't get their coffee this morning: The Neo Project is committing 100% of its client resources to factoring the X-Box/2048 bit encryption key. Right on the front page ;) :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kairon Posted January 14, 2003 Share Posted January 14, 2003 i believe its a program thats aims are like Distributed.net and people come together to find the 2048 bit encryption key that will allow unsigned applications to run without a mod chip on the XBOX (like xbox linux) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tryfe Posted January 14, 2003 Share Posted January 14, 2003 There must be something in the atmosphere that is making all of us pretty dang lazy today.....OH and I checked the site and this appears to be an encryption key cracker similar to the one over at Distributed.Net which I am currently using to decrypt Rc5 blocks. If i'm wrong, forgive me as I only read the first few paragraphs and skimmed the next couple and then skipped the rest to pass gas and slurp some Pepsi. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tryfe Posted January 14, 2003 Share Posted January 14, 2003 i believe its a program thats aims are like Distributed.net and people come together to find the 2048 bit encryption key that will allow unsigned applications to run without a mod chip on the XBOX (like xbox linux) Dang...you beat me to it....burrrrrrp... :ninja: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MxxCon Posted January 15, 2003 Share Posted January 15, 2003 (edited) d.net took like 3 years to crack RC5 56bit key.. i'm not sure if xbox is uses same type of encryption, but i think attempt to crack any 2048bit key is pretty futile..espesially for such small project edit: er, ya RC5-64, not 56. Edited January 15, 2003 by MxxCon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tryfe Posted January 15, 2003 Share Posted January 15, 2003 d.net took like 3 years to crack RC5 56bit key..i'm not sure if xbox is uses same type of encryption, but i think attempt to crack any 2048bit key is pretty futile..espesially for such small project 56bit? RC5-64bit was just cracked a few months ago after nearly 5 years of cracking. I worked on it for around 4 years and I won squat. RC5-72bit has just gone underway and I've been cracking for a little over a month now. I bet this one will last longer. :wacko: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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