Hum Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 CHICAGO (Reuters) - Altering a gene in the brain of female worms changed their sexual orientation, U.S. researchers said on Thursday, making female worms attracted to other females. The study reinforces the notion that sexual orientation is hard-wired in the brain, said Erik Jorgensen, scientific director of the Brain Institute at the University of Utah. "They look like girls, but act and think like boys," Utah researcher Jamie White, who worked on the study published in the journal Current Biology, said in a statement. Researchers in Jorgensen's lab switched on a gene in female worms that makes the body develop male structures, but they only activated the gene in the brain. As a result, the female worms still had female bodies, but they behaved like males. "It suggests sexual behavior is encoded in our genes" and not caused by extra nerve cells specific to males or females, Jorgensen said in a telephone interview. Animals such as nematodes, fruit flies and mice share many of the same genes as humans and are often used as models to understand human genetics. But Jorgensen said the study is not likely to resolve the burning question about the genesis of sexual orientation in humans. "A human's brain is much more complex than a worm's brain," he said. Many scientists think a host of factors such as genetics, hormones and environment may play a role in determining sexual orientation in humans, but this has not been proven. Jorgensen said the study is interesting because it suggests rather than being caused by extra, sex-specific nerve cells, attraction behaviors are part of the same brain circuit. The finding was part of a study looking at areas in the worms' brains involved in sexual attraction. Nematodes, or C. elegans, are tiny worms about one millimeter long that live in the dirt, chomping bacteria. They have no eyes and rely on smell for navigation and propagation. There are few males, only one in 500, so most of these female nematodes are hermaphrodites, meaning they have both male and female sexual organs. This gives the female worms the ability to fertilize their own eggs and produce offspring in the absence of a male. "For the most part they are females," Jorgensen said. "It's really hard to tell that they are hermaphrodites, but they do make these few sperm." When they do mate with males, female worms produce 1,200 progeny, compared with just 200 when they produce their own sperm. The researchers were trying to understand the underpinnings of sexual attraction in the male nematodes. They reasoned it could arise from four extra smell-related nerve cells found only in male worm brains, from four core nerves found in both males and females or from a mix of both. When they systematically neutralized the male-only neurons, mature male worms still responded to the females. The findings imply nerve cells common to both male and female worms are central to sexual attraction and sexual orientation. "They have genes for both male behavior and female behavior in them," Jorgensen said. "It suggests the brain determines behavior." The study expands on prior studies suggesting a genetic component to sexual orientation. "This is one more observation. We've seen this in flies and in mice," he said. "The difference is we know what cells are involved." The study was funded by the National Science Foundation. source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakey_snake Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 Interesting. I thought all earthworms where hermaphroditic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janitor Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 Doesn't take a scientist to know that.. jesus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemonzest Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 Great, soon we can cure this disease :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazzyyfool Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 Great, soon we can cure this disease :D What disease is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemonzest Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 Homosexuality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gigapixels Veteran Posted October 29, 2007 Veteran Share Posted October 29, 2007 Great, soon we can cure this disease :D Homosexuality Wow... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goji Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 This ought to make the religious right go nuts and the looney left say "I told you so". Still at the end of the day nothing is accomplished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGS4-SS Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 Homosexuality Oh dear... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlakByte Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 Homosexuality lol good one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clx Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 Wow... +1 .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazzyyfool Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 Great, soon we can cure this disease :D Homosexuality Dear oh dear oh dear. Very narrow minded view of society mr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshBluebird Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 I can't see what this proves. Apart from that its possible to turn females into males (which we already knew was possible). I just don't see the link with homosexuality in this study. All they've done is basically made the female worm think its male. If I somehow made a female human think she's a man, and thus she its attracted to other woman - that doesn't mean she's a lesbian. That means she thinks she's male. As for the comment by Lemonzest - I vote that we all ignore it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin-uk Veteran Posted October 29, 2007 Veteran Share Posted October 29, 2007 Threads merged & moved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 Interesting. I thought all earthworms where hermaphroditic. So did I :/ Homosexuality What the hell is wrong with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee G. Veteran Posted October 29, 2007 Veteran Share Posted October 29, 2007 Homosexuality Wow... I thought in your first comment you were being sarcastic, but obviously not :huh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knife Party Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 homosexuality = wrong = against nature+God whats wrong with the world? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee G. Veteran Posted October 29, 2007 Veteran Share Posted October 29, 2007 homosexuality = wrong = against nature+Godwhats wrong with the world? :blink: As I don't want to start another one of these arguments, I'll say no more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack 0Neill Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 Considering worms are asexual, this sounds like a crock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfish Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 (edited) it was known for a long time that certain lower life forms had pheremones. the most interesting part of the study is "The females that are now attracted to other females, they get there and they don’t know what to do". So it has nothing to do with actual sex, but attraction. Got it. The problem is when you have politics behind this, people won't report this as the most interesting part of the story. We also know humans don't operate on pheremones. Now everyone start talking about homosexuality, when this says absolutely nothing about it (except that in worms having sex isn't caused by pheremones). If it proved homosexuality were really genetic we would expect the female worms to start having sex with each other, not some additional BS excuse. Edited October 29, 2007 by brianshapiro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markwolfe Veteran Posted October 29, 2007 Veteran Share Posted October 29, 2007 Considering worms are asexual, this sounds like a crock.Nematodes have genderhttp://www.wormbook.org/chapters/www_evolu...exdetermin.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aubaine Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 This article confused me. It says that it made "females act like males" but it doesn't say what behavior they classified as "male" except for being attracted to other females. Were there other inherently "male" behavior traits that they exhibited? If so, what were they? Something definitely sounds fishy here, but from what I know about scientific reporting, it could just as well be with the reporter as the study itself. As for the homophobes and bigots that have posted, if you're just going to flame and add nothing to the discussion, why don't you go somewhere else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snyper Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakey_snake Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 Listen snyper, when I said I thought a worms were hermaphroditic, I meant that I had learned otherwise, OK. Considering worms are asexual, this sounds like a crock.Oog are pretty sure worms don't divide themselves into multiple worm offspring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemo Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 (edited) mmmk, so then people could become gay or straight if this pans out how it seems, right? Edited October 30, 2007 by nemo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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