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#76 ViperAFK

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Posted 19 January 2008 - 04:11

Aero doesn't drag down performance at all if you are running a decent card, if anything it makes it faster and more respnsive and takes load off of the cpu.


#77 ANova

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Posted 19 January 2008 - 04:12

Real or not, I like the design and hope Win 7 doesn't end up like a slightly different Vista.

Aero doesn't drag down performance at all if you are running a decent card, if anything it makes it faster and more respnsive and takes load off of the cpu.


Aero is slow compared to OSX's Quartz Extreme and Compiz in Linux. I ran them all on an X850 XT and QE was faster even with a lack of driver support.

#78 Reverend Spam

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Posted 19 January 2008 - 06:22

Aero doesn't drag down performance at all if you are running a decent card, if anything it makes it faster and more respnsive and takes load off of the cpu.


What kind of pcs do the majority of home users use? Self built performance pcs or cheap OEM models? Sure, it works great on the former, but it needs to be BUILT for the latter.... Otherwise, you get what we hear every day about vista: a bunch of whiny noobs who know **** about computers complaining because they cant watch their porn videos stutter free.... maybe it doesn't "matter" but i have to say, i'm tired of hearing it. Hence an OSes need to perform more than just "average" on OEM systems (Dell, HP, Gateway, Sony mainly) and i gotta say, thats just not always the case. Vista has always run good on the HP laptops i've used..... but not GREAT... thats a problem for most people. In fact, even with the latest build of SP1 beta installed, I just see a lot of performance inconsistency with Vista, and this is no wimpy system. 2gig dual core 64bit Turion proc, 2 gigs ram... At that level, I should have advanced beyond stutters and inconsistent performance levels considering i don't push it very hard, yet I have not. How can a system that nice (at least DOUBLE the minimum requirements for vista) not run a half step below PERFECTION? I sincerely hope MS doesn't consider SP1's release "case closed" with regard to performance/reliability enhancements.

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Posted 19 January 2008 - 07:07

Real or not, I like the design and hope Win 7 doesn't end up like a slightly different Vista.

Aero is slow compared to OSX's Quartz Extreme and Compiz in Linux. I ran them all on an X850 XT and QE was faster even with a lack of driver support.


Faster? Faster how?

#80 vipwoody

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Posted 19 January 2008 - 07:14

I'm sorry but it's an obvious fake, as stated by the name 'MSN Messenger', and IE11. Since when does MS skip 4 versions of a program just to put a 'newer version' into an alpha stage OS. They wouldn't. Any Windows 7 M1 out there will probably be running IE7.

-Spenser


yeah, i noticed that after i posted that. you are right.

#81 Victor V.

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Posted 19 January 2008 - 11:38

And even if we wanted to believe, it is possible that someone tricked you.

Whatever, +1 to OSXI build 1337...

Fact is, in an interview a Microsoft developer said himself that design is one of the last things they do, and they even work in Windows Classic mode...

or have everyone forgotten the exciting purple vista start?

#82 ANova

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Posted 19 January 2008 - 11:47

Faster? Faster how?

Faster. You know, as in more responsive, less stuttering and quicker to render. You might want to try the alternatives.

#83 XPero

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Posted 19 January 2008 - 17:40

You know, though its probly fake, consider this...... Why NOT include the new gui in alpha builds? I mean, look what happened with Vista...... They waited too damn long to integrate the new GUI into beta builds that it ended up being detrimental to the performance of Vista..... Honestly, I think they SHOULD create the gui first...... at least then, they'd have over a year to tweak the gui so its not going to drag down your computer like it has in XP and Vista.

It is very clear that you're not a developer

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Posted 19 January 2008 - 17:51

Faster. You know, as in more responsive, less stuttering and quicker to render. You might want to try the alternatives.

He can't. Only the official let's-copy-what-other-companies-do-team is allowed to use Mac/Linux.

#85 FATILA

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Posted 19 January 2008 - 17:54

Widgets, faster search, 3D window switching. What alpha OS had these in 2003? :p

#86 ViperAFK

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Posted 19 January 2008 - 18:13

Real or not, I like the design and hope Win 7 doesn't end up like a slightly different Vista.



Aero is slow compared to OSX's Quartz Extreme and Compiz in Linux. I ran them all on an X850 XT and QE was faster even with a lack of driver support.

Compiz was slow as hell on my 7600GS compared to Aero. Aero was always perfectly smooth, compiz lagged all the time minimizing windows mainly and some of the other simple animations that shouldn't lag. I had tried tweaking it alot, using many different nvidia drivers and many different versions of compiz/beryl and compiz fusion, it never worked as smooth as aero. Compiz always felt incredibly unresponsive compared to aero too. I have NEVER seen aero stutter or lag, especially minimizing damn windows. I haven't been able to try linux on my x1950 pro yet, but it would probably be evern worse due to ati's linux drivers.

#87 Glowstick

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Posted 19 January 2008 - 20:03

LOL @ mechanical mouse movement in the fake video.

I mean, jesus, those people should try harder. I'm sure that anyone with some basic C# and XAML coding skills and some design ideas that don't look like Fisher Price can hack up an application to create a really funky and "real" looking fake video.

#88 zshadow

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Posted 19 January 2008 - 20:10

Real or not, I like the design and hope Win 7 doesn't end up like a slightly different Vista.



Aero is slow compared to OSX's Quartz Extreme and Compiz in Linux. I ran them all on an X850 XT and QE was faster even with a lack of driver support.



You shouldn't get any slowdown with Aero on a X850 XT. I'd say an FX5500 is about the minimum for Aero (which is a terribly weak card).

#89 ANova

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Posted 20 January 2008 - 07:06

Compiz was slow as hell on my 7600GS compared to Aero. Aero was always perfectly smooth, compiz lagged all the time minimizing windows mainly and some of the other simple animations that shouldn't lag. I had tried tweaking it alot, using many different nvidia drivers and many different versions of compiz/beryl and compiz fusion, it never worked as smooth as aero. Compiz always felt incredibly unresponsive compared to aero too. I have NEVER seen aero stutter or lag, especially minimizing damn windows. I haven't been able to try linux on my x1950 pro yet, but it would probably be evern worse due to ati's linux drivers.


You must have used really crappy drivers. I ran Compiz in Ubuntu off of a live cd on an old P3 with a 9500 Pro and it was smooth as butter, much better than Aero runs on my much faster P4 3.4, X850 XT. Vista is laggy in comparison and I've tried a couple different drivers.

Maybe fast to you is slow to me but I'm telling you, Compiz was really fast the time I played around with it.

#90 Glowstick

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Posted 20 January 2008 - 12:39

If we're going to be anecdotal, Aero had also been ****ting its pants occasionally here with recent drivers, so duh.



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