.KICK Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 (edited) Game Info: Platforms: PC, Xbox 360 and Playstation 3 Release Dates: Japan - December 4th North America - October 28th Europe - October 31st Developer: Bethesda Game Studios Publisher: Bethesda Softworks, ZeniMax Media Engine: Gamebryo engine Genre: Post-apocalyptic Action RPG Mode: Single-player Hands-on: Hands On - 25 July 2008by Oli Welsh Perhaps it's just bad timing. Perhaps it's unfortunate juxtaposition. Fallout 3 made its E3 debut in a demonstration at Microsoft's Xbox 360 briefing in close proximity to Gears of War 2 and Resident Evil 5. All of a sudden, in that context, this very special follow-up to some of the most revered properties in role-playing gaming - venerable Interplay classic Fallout, and developer Bethesda's recent smash hit Oblivion - didn't look so special any more. The barren, broken landscape, the deformed mutant enemies, the muted brown colour scheme, the developers enthusiastically detailing the myriad options for amusing dismemberment, gore, explosions and carnage. It all became a bit of a blur. Then EA showed Dead Space and Left 4 Dead and Rage, and Sony showed Resistance 2, and Take-Two showed Borderlands, and on and on for the rest of the week until - despite the quality of several of these games - the blur became a huge, ugly, indistinguishable smear across the whole of E3. A smear that Fallout 3, of all games, really shouldn't be getting lost in. So, yes - it was bad luck. After all, you can hardly expect a Fallout game to be about anything other than a post-apocalyptic world beset with mutants, and it isn't Bethesda's fault that the current commercial and political landscape has given the games industry an unhealthier-than-usual obsession with that subject matter. You can, however, expect Bethesda to approach it with polish, sophistication and a unique sense of humour - and this is exactly where we found our half-hour hands-on demo lacking. Fallout 3, as detailed by Kieron, concerns our young hero's search for his father in the wasteland that was once Washington DC, before a nuclear holocaust 200 years ago. At the start of the demo, we emerge from the hermetically-sealed 1950s utopia of the Vault, via a vast and elaborately clunking airlock door, into Washington's sepia-toned ruins. No doubt, it's a dramatic, heart-in-mouth moment, very well handled. As is Fallout tradition, the game's RPG interface is tidied away into a PIP-Boy 3000 personal terminal, which your character wears on his wrist. It's actually very stylishly and economically done, giving easy and logical access to all the stats and options you could need, and graced with wryly funny drawings of Vault-Boy - the ironic, grinning, cow-licked mascot of the Fallout universe - on every screen. Wandering forth, we're struck by the extreme openness of the landscape, characterised, as was Oblivion, by rolling inclines and carefully arranged vistas of dramatic architecture. It's several worlds away from the lush, pastoral fantasy of the Elder Scrolls, though. It's one thing to look down on destruction from an isometric viewpoint and coo over the details - it's another to look out across it, all the way to the horizon. (It's also another thing to navigate jagged, messy piles of rubble in 3D, and more than this pre-release version of the game can cope with, as our avatar descends, juddering, up to his waist in the ground.) Visually, Fallout 3 is unremittingly bleak. So it should be, although you have to wonder if there will be enough variation in this vast wasteland to sustain interest. But let's give Bethesda's artists the benefit of the doubt on that count, because unfortunately the game has much more tangible shortcomings to take them to task on: the flat, sterile lighting, the excessive contrast, the feeble effects (excepting the mini-nuke explosions of wrecked cars' power units) and, worst by far, the hilariously, embarrassingly wooden animation. This was a weakness of Oblivion's, too, but it's even more jarring in Fallout 3. The game presents itself in the first-person perspective, but you can pull the camera out to quite a distant third-person viewpoint and move it in full 3D. This means you can examine your character's Gerry Anderson jerking and flailing from any angle; we'd recommend you don't. Unfortunately, you can't help but observe the erratic path-finding, motionless trances and limp movements of the few enemies you encounter this early in the game. You simply can't invoke the visual style of an action game and get away with this stuff. Continues at Eurogamer.. Videos: (All in HD unless stated) E3- E3 2008: Perfect Life Trailer E3 2008: Microsoft Press Conference Direct Feed Walkthrough Gameplay: PAX 2008: Escape Gameplay PAX 2008: Megaton Gameplay PAX 2008: The Wasteland Gameplay PAX 2008: Super-Duper Mart Gameplay PAX 2008: Tenpenny Tower Gameplay Images: Links: Game Trailers Game Page Eurogamers Game Page Official Fallout Site Thanks to DrunknMunky for his help on making this topic. Edited January 27, 2009 by .KICK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~WinGz~ Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 This looks to be an amazing game. I actually have it on my to buy list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex224 Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 I've not been hyped for this until buying a playstation 3 a few days ago and realising an RPG like this for it would be awesome. It looks awesome and I hope to get it when it's released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted October 6, 2008 Subscriber² Share Posted October 6, 2008 Can't wait for this :D I just hope it's not dumbed down at all cause it's on consoles. The fact Oblivion translated over well keeps my hopes up but (Y) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sethos Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 Not too impressed with those screenshots, don't like the atmosphere or the 'style' either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 Even know not a fan of RPG but this game looks like Killzone,, like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minimoose Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 Game looks lush to me, I can't wait :) Never played the other Fallouts, any point to catch up on story or w/e? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJC33 Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 The other fallout games were fantastic and from what i see this is going to be even better. Pre-ordered already and ticking off the days on my calender. Just hope they have kept to the old style of play. You should not need to play the old ones to know whats going on as the story is independant of the others. Might be worth a play though to get the idea of the game, if you can put up with the terrbile graphics of the old ones ofc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spookie Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 It's been leaked on the net (ironically with all the crying about PC piracy the 360 leaked it first). Peoples general impressions are underwhelming. Some people have gone so far to say it's Oblivion in a nuclear waste zone. Looks like I'm going to drop my PC collectors edition for a regular now. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dotdot Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Just looks like Stalker imho, cept with more depressing grey/brown enviroments. Pass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draken Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 Top 10: Kick ass moments from a day with Fallout 3 !!!Spoiler Warning!!! Top 10 Those looked nice :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunknMunky Veteran Posted October 12, 2008 Veteran Share Posted October 12, 2008 Ok fed up of the leaked topic having more discussion than the game itself so here are some new videos from TGS! Official TGS 2008 Trailer World Exclusive Brotherhood of Steel Combat Gameplay World Exclusive Museum of Technology Gameplay World Exclusive Washington D.C. Underground Gameplay World Exclusive Trench Warfare in D.C. Gameplay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hekkyUK Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 Some people have gone so far to say it's Oblivion in a nuclear waste zone. That actually suits me just fine - Really looking forward to trying VATS too :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunknMunky Veteran Posted October 12, 2008 Veteran Share Posted October 12, 2008 It's been leaked on the net (ironically with all the crying about PC piracy the 360 leaked it first). Peoples general impressions are underwhelming. Some people have gone so far to say it's Oblivion in a nuclear waste zone. Pretty much, the first mission is almost an exact clone of Oblivion's escape from the sewers, except in Fallout's universe obv. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badie05 Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 The beginning was quite long according to some Youtube video of a pirate who already has the game. And we thought PC Piracy was bad. Even the PC one hasn't been leaked/pirated yet :p. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atom Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 I'm a pretty fanatical Fallout fan. I've played through both 1&2 as everything from slayer to arms specialist etc. I absolutely love the franchise and played its various incarnations like Tacticts and BoS. I have the Survival Edition from Amazon pre order for my PC as well. I have put about 18hrs into Fallout 3 on the 360 and I'm happy to report that it is an incredible game. While it doesnt quite live up to the gritty, groundbreaking, ethically questionable games there were F1&2, it is the very best revival that we could have hoped for. The V.A.T.S. combat is the best translation of turn based fighting to modern real time FPS I've ever seen. It captures the spirit of the original turn based fallouts without breaking the pace of combat. The slomo death scenes are brutal and bloody much like the originals. The mutants and NPC's 3d models stay true to form and pay homage to the original. I got to my first Slaver's camp and was instantly transported back to F2's slaver base in the Den, they really did their research and delivered and experience for returning fans. With that said the game isn't perfect. Alot of the problems with Oblivion make a return in F3. The interior's of homes, caves, and bases are far to dark. Half the time I dont even realize there's and enemy in the room until I'm hit or jump into V.A.T.S. I've also haven't found a flashlight, or any other source of portable light for that matter. The 3rd person perspective really destroys the immersion for me. It's a minor complaint, but the way your toon walks around the world in 3rd person is ridiculous. He looks as if hes skating/gliding along every rocky surface he comes in contact with. I also dont really care for the lack of flavor text in the entire game. Half the fun of the original fallouts was all of the random things your pip boy would churn out during combat, or the descriptions of various items you collected in your adventures. All of this is absent in this version. With that said, I'm taking the graphical problems with a grain of salt right now. I am playing this on the technically inferior 360 and understand that certain things need to be scaled down or cut back due to the limited capabilities of the machine. I'm hoping for a world of difference on my 280 but I'll have to wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draken Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 you already have fallout 3??? how? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted October 13, 2008 Subscriber² Share Posted October 13, 2008 you already have fallout 3??? how? The less said the better :pirate: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunknMunky Veteran Posted October 13, 2008 Veteran Share Posted October 13, 2008 Maybe he has a "review" copy :rofl: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad. Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 Maybe he has a "review" copy :rofl: True dat, playa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draken Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 Maybe he has a "review" copy :rofl: ohhh so he's a reviewer? :whistle: :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanctified Veteran Posted October 13, 2008 Veteran Share Posted October 13, 2008 I'm a pretty fanatical Fallout fan. I've played through both 1&2 as everything from slayer to arms specialist etc. I absolutely love the franchise and played its various incarnations like Tacticts and BoS. I have the Survival Edition from Amazon pre order for my PC as well.I have put about 18hrs into Fallout 3 on the 360 and I'm happy to report that it is an incredible game. While it doesnt quite live up to the gritty, groundbreaking, ethically questionable games there were F1&2, it is the very best revival that we could have hoped for. The V.A.T.S. combat is the best translation of turn based fighting to modern real time FPS I've ever seen. It captures the spirit of the original turn based fallouts without breaking the pace of combat. The slomo death scenes are brutal and bloody much like the originals. The mutants and NPC's 3d models stay true to form and pay homage to the original. I got to my first Slaver's camp and was instantly transported back to F2's slaver base in the Den, they really did their research and delivered and experience for returning fans. With that said the game isn't perfect. Alot of the problems with Oblivion make a return in F3. The interior's of homes, caves, and bases are far to dark. Half the time I dont even realize there's and enemy in the room until I'm hit or jump into V.A.T.S. I've also haven't found a flashlight, or any other source of portable light for that matter. The 3rd person perspective really destroys the immersion for me. It's a minor complaint, but the way your toon walks around the world in 3rd person is ridiculous. He looks as if hes skating/gliding along every rocky surface he comes in contact with. I also dont really care for the lack of flavor text in the entire game. Half the fun of the original fallouts was all of the random things your pip boy would churn out during combat, or the descriptions of various items you collected in your adventures. All of this is absent in this version. With that said, I'm taking the graphical problems with a grain of salt right now. I am playing this on the technically inferior 360 and understand that certain things need to be scaled down or cut back due to the limited capabilities of the machine. I'm hoping for a world of difference on my 280 but I'll have to wait and see. How about the plot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted October 13, 2008 Subscriber² Share Posted October 13, 2008 I've seen it getting played in person for a few hours, and tried it myself for what it's worth. At first it's basically Oblivion with a lick of paint and guns, but the quests/story line missions I watched seemed pretty strong. However if you didn't like Oblivion, DO NOT expect to see things drastically changed. Aiming/using guns without VAT as well is pretty crappy. Graphics are good, but 3rd person view/some animation work is awful. I can't wait to dig in myself, didn't do much of the game as not to waste things for myself (I also didn't see the beginning segment which is pretty much suppose to be a 1:1 copy of Oblivion's tutorial). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunknMunky Veteran Posted October 13, 2008 Veteran Share Posted October 13, 2008 However if you didn't like Oblivion, DO NOT expect to see things drastically changed.Aiming/using guns without VAT as well is pretty crappy. Yup, pretty much my thoughts too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanctified Veteran Posted October 13, 2008 Veteran Share Posted October 13, 2008 I've seen it getting played in person for a few hours, and tried it myself for what it's worth.At first it's basically Oblivion with a lick of paint and guns, but the quests/story line missions I watched seemed pretty strong. However if you didn't like Oblivion, DO NOT expect to see things drastically changed. Aiming/using guns without VAT as well is pretty crappy. Graphics are good, but 3rd person view/some animation work is awful. I can't wait to dig in myself, didn't do much of the game as not to waste things for myself. What if I liked Oblivion, loved Morrowind and TOTALLY LOVED the past Fallout games? I really dont want to be dissapointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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