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i was just fooling around with my computer the other day and noticed that there is no shortcut to the windows photo viewer in the start menu, or anywhere for that matter. i know that the photo viewer executes out of a .dll in the C:\Program Files\Windows Photo Viewer folder, obviously. i traced the process back to dllhost.exe using the task manager, and i want to create a shortcut to it, but i don't know how to create shortcuts to programs which execute out of dll's. any help would be greatly appreciated! thanks.

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Does it not come with the Windows Live Essentials Package?

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[quote name='Livin in a box' post='590644604' date='Feb 28 2009, 19:23']Does it not come with the Windows Live Essentials Package?[/quote]
Nope, you're thinking of Windows Live Photo Gallery.

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Right click a photo, click open with and then chose "windows photo viewer"

I don't know why, but they made it extremely hard to find, and I saw a shot of a new verson of that, it has the ugly white command bar and no glass controls...

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i can open it by clicking on a picture, but i want to make a shortcut so i can open just the program itself. you'd think they'd put a shortcut to it in the start menu. btw, if any of you are running the win7 beta and have a shortcut in your start menu, that would definitely solve it, lol.

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[quote name='Timmah339' post='590645772' date='Feb 28 2009, 20:38']i can open it by clicking on a picture, but i want to make a shortcut so i can open just the program itself. you'd think they'd put a shortcut to it in the start menu. btw, if any of you are running the win7 beta and have a shortcut in your start menu, that would definitely solve it, lol.[/quote]

That wouldn't make too much sense. Remember XP's folder viewer? You couldn't execute it as an application; it was invoked by opening an image. Besides, Windows Photo Viewer doesn't have an "Open" button.

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[quote name='rm20010' post='590645786' date='Feb 28 2009, 20:41']That wouldn't make too much sense. Remember XP's folder viewer? You couldn't execute it as an application; it was invoked by opening an image. Besides, Windows Photo Viewer doesn't have an "Open" button.[/quote]
but the program itself opens as a standalone app, so why couldn't i create a shortcut/script to open it? i would, but i don't know how.

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[quote name='Timmah339' post='590645832' date='Feb 28 2009, 21:00']but the program itself opens as a standalone app, so why couldn't i create a shortcut/script to open it? i would, but i don't know how.[/quote]

I assume it invokes rundll32.exe with parameters, much like how Vista's Windows Photo Gallery does as well.

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[quote name='rm20010' post='590645852' date='Feb 28 2009, 21:12']I assume it invokes rundll32.exe with parameters, much like how Vista's Windows Photo Gallery does as well.[/quote]
EXACTLY!! that's what i've been trying to get at. does anyone know what parameters i need to add to get it to run the dll as an app?

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"%ProgramFiles%\Windows Photo Gallery\WindowsPhotoGallery.exe"

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[quote name='Timmah339' post='590645832' date='Feb 28 2009, 18:00']but the program itself opens as a standalone app, so why couldn't i create a shortcut/script to open it? i would, but i don't know how.[/quote]

Actually, the Windows Photo Viewer is part of Windows Explorer, and generally runs in the Explorer.exe process. In fact, what you're calling the Photo Viewer is really just the "preview" verb for images. It isn't a standalone application, and opening it without an image or images doesn't really make any sense.

If you want the equivalent of Vista's Photo Gallery application, then you need to install the Windows Live Essentials.

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Use to drive me nuts when an applications overwrote Photo and Fax Viewer as the default way to open images. Now I use the Picasa photo viewer that came with version 3, and like it more than the built in windows one.

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[quote name='Brandon Live' post='590645870' date='Feb 28 2009, 21:22']Actually, the Windows Photo Viewer is part of Windows Explorer, and generally runs in the Explorer.exe process. In fact, what you're calling the Photo Viewer is really just the "preview" verb for images. It isn't a standalone application, and opening it without an image or images doesn't really make any sense.

If you want the equivalent of Vista's Photo Gallery application, then you need to install the Windows Live Essentials.[/quote]
So it's an extension to explorer?

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[quote name='njlouch' post='590645868' date='Feb 28 2009, 18:16']"%ProgramFiles%\Windows Photo Gallery\WindowsPhotoGallery.exe"

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This is windows 7, not XP/vista

[quote name='Shadrack' post='590645884' date='Feb 28 2009, 18:26']Use to drive me nuts when an applications overwrote Photo and Fax Viewer as the default way to open images. Now I use the Picasa photo viewer that came with version 3, and like it more than the built in windows one.[/quote]


The fax viewer in 7 is a serous joke. Big time UI fixing needs to be in place.

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there is no WindowsPhotoViewer.exe in windows 7, and if you go to task manager, right click the open Windows Photo viewer application, and click go to process, it runs back to dllhost.exe. the app is run with dllhost.exe running an application out of a dll in the Windows Photo Gallery directory. the dll is photoviewer.dll. all i need to do is make a shortcut with the line[i] dllhost.exe "%program files%\Windows photo viewer" [/i] and then with a parameter at the end. i just need to find what the parameter is.

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It's not supported. Like Brandon Live already said, it isn't a standalone program. It's a COM server.

dllhost.exe is not used to simply run a program, it is used to host COM objects in a separate process so that they can safely crash without affecting (in this case) Explorer. It increases security and stability.

Can I ask why you need a shortcut to it?

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[quote name='njlouch' post='590645868' date='Mar 1 2009, 03:16']"%ProgramFiles%\Windows Photo Gallery\WindowsPhotoGallery.exe"

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Exactly, it will open the gallery viewer where you can open your picture from.
It's the same application as when you open a picture.

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Only in Vista, Pierreken. The Photo [i]Viewer[/i] in Windows 7 is different.

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[quote name='hdood' post='590646828' date='Mar 1 2009, 05:41']It's not supported. Like Brandon Live already said, it isn't a standalone program. It's a COM server.

dllhost.exe is not used to simply run a program, it is used to host COM objects in a separate process so that they can safely crash without affecting (in this case) Explorer. It increases security and stability.

Can I ask why you need a shortcut to it?[/quote]
there used to be one in the start menu, as well as a shortcut for fax and scan, snipping tool etc.. but now they're gone. i just want to restore the shortcuts. i'm kind of ocd about this stuff.

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But it's not an application - there is no reason to open it without an image. It won't really do anything without an image.

I'm sure people would agree when I say it's just a lot easier double clicking on an image to open the Viewer.

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So, you figure out how to correctly make a shortcut (somehow) and put it on the start menu. You say "hey, I want to look at a picture" so you click the shortcut and up comes a viewer window with no picture in it and no way to open a picture. Now what?

:wacko:

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[quote name='Stetson' post='590648144' date='Mar 1 2009, 14:00']So, you figure out how to correctly make a shortcut (somehow) and put it on the start menu. You say "hey, I want to look at a picture" so you click the shortcut and up comes a viewer window with no picture in it and no way to open a picture. Now what?

:wacko:[/quote]
hmm, i just looked at the window closer and i thought the open menu at the top was to open a file. apparently it's to open that image in another app. i guess that would be kinda useless. oh well.

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[quote name='Timmah339' post='590648112' date='Mar 1 2009, 19:51']there used to be one in the start menu, as well as a shortcut for fax and scan, snipping tool etc.. but now they're gone. i just want to restore the shortcuts. i'm kind of ocd about this stuff.[/quote]
No, the shortcut in Vista is to a [b]different program[/b] that is not included in Windows 7. The closest thing is the Windows Live Photo Gallery which you can download.


Fax and Scan, though, should be on the main start menu (provided you have Ultimate), and Snipping Tool is still there in Accessories.

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alright then. thanks everyone

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You can't open Windows Photo Viewer without a picture. There is, however, a command to run it.

rundll32.exe C:\WINDOWS\System32\shimgvw.dll,ImageView_Fullscreen path-to-picture

ie:

rundll32.exe C:\WINDOWS\System32\shimgvw.dll,ImageView_Fullscreen c:\Users\Owner\Pictures\picture1.jpg

So creating a shortcut to run the application itself is basically impossible, since the shortcut would have to include the path to a picture in order to work.

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