Steven P. Administrators Posted March 19, 2009 Administrators Share Posted March 19, 2009 We have finally decided to go ahead and implement an ad free group to the subscriber packages, it will be ready by the end of the week and current subscribers will have first dibs to "upgrade" to it, because that has to be done manually. Those who have an active subscription can choose to pay the ?20 for a year to be added to the current subscription, so in some cases a subscriber may have paid for 18 months if there's 6 months remaining on the ?10 package. As mentioned above, it will cost ?20, which translates to $26 USD. This figure wasn't pulled out of my "behind")btw ;) We calculated that a typical Neowin reader (member and/or guest) account for about $36 USD a year per person (on average). So anyone who signs up will actually be getting a $10 waiver courtesy of Ne:Din. :D We hope to target those members that purposely block ads and wish to give back in a constructive way, and for current subscribers who want to give a little more. This group will also be eligible for freebies and draws throughout the year when we see fit, it could be a draw for a software license that has been donated to us by someone, free hosting or even a copy of Windows to be won by random selection. We will also be adding member galleribothth subscriber packages, which will be enabled after moderator preview, although this addition won't be realised until sometime in April and must be considered an "extra" to the current subscription(s). At the moment we don't have anything to replace the ads with, but feedback is welcome if it isn't too difficult to implement, this also means the IntelliTXT links will not appear for ad free accounts! Before you comment, we have spent a long, long time considering this. It has been brought up by members and staff on more than a few occasions over the past 5 years or so, but we never really got around to it, or deciding on a "fair" price for both you and Neowin. That being said, I hope we have now introduced 2 tiers at a very reasonable asking price for the service we offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomwarren Veteran Posted March 19, 2009 Veteran Share Posted March 19, 2009 Where do I sign up? :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophism Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 Deja vu? Anyway, I look forward to being able to purchase the new package ;) Thanks very much for implementing this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Gil Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 Very nice, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincent Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 Question is, on a per user basis, which one genereates more income for the site? The ad free subscription or the current subscription package ( over time)? I personally don't like this idea, but if it helps neowin more in the long run so be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven P. Administrators Posted March 19, 2009 Author Administrators Share Posted March 19, 2009 The $36 mentioned above is an average.. and accounts for people already using ad blockers, or an influx of guests that never return. So $26 is probably more realistic for an active member. I also forgot to mention that it also goes without saying that ad free subscribers also get all the benefits of current subscribers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldgunner Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 would love to upgrade, can you give us details abut how we go about doing so when its been added? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vice Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 So it works out ?18.50 GBP or so. Good value for money in my opinion:)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven P. Administrators Posted March 19, 2009 Author Administrators Share Posted March 19, 2009 would love to upgrade, can you give us details abut how we go about doing so when its been added? No problem :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vice Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 When you say: Both tiers also have their own private forum as well as the support forum that can be accessed by members Does that mean each Tier will have its OWN private sub-forum (e.g. two separate for each tier) or a single private sub-forum that is accessible by both Tiers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToneKnee Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 I'll upgrade! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+John. Subscriber¹ Posted March 19, 2009 Subscriber¹ Share Posted March 19, 2009 Is there going to be a tier two badge :p? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raa Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 I can honestly say "it's about time". Bit higher than i'd like, but if the Ads for an average user cost that much, it's fair - plus with the global financial crisis, well, gotta pay the bills somehow. Congrats on doing this guys, very welcome step. I'm not jumping in yet, but i'll definately keep an eye on this one. Small clarification if I may : we'll be able to enter freebies/draws. Are these subscriber exclusive? If so, to both tiers, or just L2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad_onion Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 yeah, new badge for tier 2? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Montage Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 Will this Tier 2 be seen as more "elite" than Tier 1? I subscribe because I like Neowin and want to show my support - I've never used any of the features of it. I, however, have no issue with the ads. As such, am not sure whetehr to go to Tier 2 or not... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+LogicalApex MVC Posted March 19, 2009 MVC Share Posted March 19, 2009 Thank you very much. I'm glad to see NeoWin is still as good as it was in the early days and listens to community suggestions. Soon as I can sign up I will do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee G. Veteran Posted March 19, 2009 Veteran Share Posted March 19, 2009 Is there going to be a tier two badge :p? yeah, new badge for tier 2? lol Yeah, I'm wondering the same. I'm guessing the second tier subscriber group will be called Subscriber? ?:pp Will this Tier 2 be seen as more "elite" than Tier 1?I subscribe because I like Neowin and want to show my support - I've never used any of the features of it. I, however, have no issue with the ads. As such, am not sure whetehr to go to Tier 2 or not... Same here. I don't find the ads intrusive at all. I don't use any subscriber features, apart from the larger inbox, which does have over 100 PMs in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obiwong Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 yeah, new badge for tier 2? lol lol it's WoW all over again i'm still working on my tier 1 8 set bonus..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkaic Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 kinda offtopic: I remember when I first subscribed there was the option that subscribers would be able to edit thread titles to fix spelling errors, etc. What has happened to that and is that still available? What about a new forum skin for this group? I hope that wouldnt be way too much! Just wondering. Edit: The only subscriber benefits i use are probably the flood control limit removal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Frank B. Subscriber² Posted March 19, 2009 Subscriber² Share Posted March 19, 2009 kinda offtopic:I remember when I first subscribed there was the option that subscribers would be able to edit thread titles to fix spelling errors, etc. What has happened to that and is that still available? What about a new forum skin for this group? I hope that wouldnt be way too much! Just wondering. You can edit the thread title: In the first post, click on Edit -> Full Edit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven P. Administrators Posted March 19, 2009 Author Administrators Share Posted March 19, 2009 PS: Not an April Fools joke ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vice Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 The colour looks a bit funky.. Can't we just have it the same orange? Don't think I want faeces brown. :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven P. Administrators Posted March 19, 2009 Author Administrators Share Posted March 19, 2009 Shouldnt there be a clear distinction of the 2 tiers? I'd hate to be paying more for the same recognition as the lower tier. :s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalsoft Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 This is what I like about Neowin! The people have spoken and the mods listened, good news! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vice Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 Well I mean keep the little 2 but keep it orange or make it a colour that is nice and vibrant. The brown just looks bad. If anything the Brown makes Tier 2 look below Tier 1. Just saying :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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