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#1 Digitalx

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Posted 03 June 2009 - 01:04

Just been keeping up with news on Nokia N97 and it got me to thinking maybe how many people on neowin are interested in it and will probably buy one now they are shipping to 75 countries during June ?



Since features and whatnot are all out and known and stuff and having followed it since announcement I quite honestly think this will be a killer phone/mobile device. Why do i think this ? well to sum it up pretty much starting with hardware.. It has good quality touch screen along with a really nice designed keypad which is well spaced and easy to use. Now kudos to HTC no doubt for nearly matching it with the Touch Pro 2. Next I believe the hardware features mixed with Symbian S60 5th edition which a lot of people possibly dislike in comparison to mobile OSX, Winmo, android etc I just see it as being great software as it has all the incentives of good quality mobile entertainment and things while also retaining quality and features for doing business stuff it's also bringing the widget approach which will be interesting alongside the Ovi store and services. It also lacks multi touch which i can understand some people would be dissapointed in but imo for mobile phone management/operation multi touch isn't exactly necessary.

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Over all imo though, I believe it's the best phone so far to 'nail it' so to speak in terms of use, quality, features etc

If anyone here gets one very soon or already has got an early one would be good if could do a neowin review. Personally i'll be trying to get hold of one once they come down here (hopefully they can get hold of white/silver one) it will sure as hell be a good upgrade from the rubbish nokia 6101 I have now and be first step into high end phones.

So what are your guys views on it in comparison fairly to other competitive devices and things ?


#2 PT 13

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Posted 03 June 2009 - 01:08

I thing for what it is, it's just too overpriced...

It's just a 5800 with physical keyboard (which IMO is useless), and a 5MP camera :|

But it's still a great phone

#3 troist

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Posted 03 June 2009 - 01:09

Have we got a release date?

#4 OP Digitalx

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Posted 03 June 2009 - 01:20

I thing for what it is, it's just too overpriced...

It's just a 5800 with physical keyboard (which IMO is useless), and a 5MP camera

But it's still a great phone


I can understand why some people may see it that way but to me personally the keypad is a huge addition because at the end of the day i hate typing on my ipod touch and traditional numeric keypad is just a pain in the bum specially for things like email and SMS and whatnot. The 5800 has a resistive touch screen and the N97 is using a capacitive touch screen which improves its general use quality so don't need to use a stylus too.

Have we got a release date?

It's dependant on carriers and their deals but as you can see in video and latest news it's shipping now to them so it'll be during June just specific dates will be arbitrary based on carriers choice of launch or could be even longer if they choose to stock pile and build up marketing and things.

#5 PT 13

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Posted 03 June 2009 - 01:27

I can understand why some people may see it that way but to me personally the keypad is a huge addition because at the end of the day i hate typing on my ipod touch and traditional numeric keypad is just a pain in the bum specially for things like email and SMS and whatnot. The 5800 has a resistive touch screen and the N97 is using a capacitive touch screen which improves its general use quality so don't need to use a stylus too.


Yeah the physical keyboard is good for some people not so useful for others :( I type very well and with no mistakes on the "digital" keyboard of my 5800.

If you like physical keyboard than the N97 is definitely a great phone :)

#6 Unto Darkness

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Posted 03 June 2009 - 01:32

I thing for what it is, it's just too overpriced...

It's just a 5800 with physical keyboard (which IMO is useless), and a 5MP camera :|

But it's still a great phone


Actually, it should also feature an improved interface over the Nokia 5800. The Nokia 5800 was somewhat a guinea pig for Nokia to test their touch interface. The interface for the N97 may be a refined version.

Have we got a release date?


You could get it from the official Nokia store on June 19. You could pre-order it now.

Edited by Unto Darkness, 03 June 2009 - 01:39.


#7 starburst1980

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Posted 03 June 2009 - 01:34

physical keyboard (which IMO is useless

You have no idea what a keyboard on a mobile phone feels like do you? :rolleyes:


For me its this vs Nokia E75 ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_E75 ). I have its predecessor which is the Nokia E70 which Ive had GREAT results with (except low RAM) But not sure which to get. The N97 pretty much whips its ass in every area EXCEPT the E75 has GPS. It wouldnt be a major problem as I dont use GPS much and I have a Bluetooth GPS module which I currently use with my Nokia E70.

#8 troist

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Posted 03 June 2009 - 01:37

Physical keyboards are soooo much better! I currently have a Blackberry Bold, and I absolutely hate having to type things in on my iPod Touch or the predecessor to my Bold (a BB Storm which was taken back after a week :p). Touch screens are ok for typing the odd word, but try typing a 100 word text, or even just a sentence and I'm sure it'll be easier on a physical keyboard. Physical is just better...

Edit: The N97 doesn't have GPS? As the next step from the N95/96 surely it must have GPS?! :(

#9 OP Digitalx

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Posted 03 June 2009 - 01:41

Yeah the physical keyboard is good for some people not so useful for others :( I type very well and with no mistakes on the "digital" keyboard of my 5800.

If you like physical keyboard than the N97 is definitely a great phone :)


That's one of the big upside to it as it's got the use of both/either or sort of thing. That's one of the big things when it comes to as i say nailing it.

Actually, it should also feature an improved interface over the Nokia 5800. The Nokia 5800 was somewhat a guinea pig for Nokia to test their touch interface. The interface for the N97 may be a refined version.


Yeah it's a slightly more refined version of S60 5th over 5800 that's true it was pretty much true i think that's where they learned the harsh reality of resistive touch screens like blackberry did.

I was tempted to just go and get a 5800 now but i really do want a good keypad so much i've waiting since december for it.

Another big up side to it i believe is it will be the largest capacity in terms of storage for any mobile SSD device i think which will eventually max out at 64GB. (32GB internal + 32GB MicroSDHC support eventually - will support 16GB MicroSDHC from release with 48GB capacity.)

Edit: The N97 doesn't have GPS? As the next step from the N95/96 surely it must have GPS?! sad.gif


N97 has full A-GPS support and nokia maps included + Ovi store downloadable maps. :)

#10 starburst1980

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Posted 03 June 2009 - 01:41

Thank god it has a standard 3.5mm headphone port. And (from what I see) a standard USB cable connector?

#11 PT 13

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Posted 03 June 2009 - 01:43

You have no idea what a keyboard on a mobile phone feels like do you? :rolleyes:


For me its this vs Nokia E75 ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_E75 ). I have its predecessor which is the Nokia E70 which Ive had GREAT results with (except low RAM) But not sure which to get. The N97 pretty much whips its ass in every area EXCEPT the E75 has GPS. It wouldnt be a major problem as I dont use GPS much and I have a Bluetooth GPS module which I currently use with my Nokia E70.


Yep, I had a E61... It was just a personal opinion, but it just takes up space. I can type perfectly on the "digital" keyboard of the 5800. And usually I even use the handwriting recognition which works great :)

The N97 has GPS...

#12 starburst1980

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Posted 03 June 2009 - 01:44

A-GPS and GPS are NOT the same thing. GPS is the actual tech. A-GPS just emulates it using cheap things like GSM tower calculations. AFAIK, it does not have GPS while the Nokia E75 does.

(I may be confused so please someone clear it up for us :) )

#13 OP Digitalx

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Posted 03 June 2009 - 01:45

Thank god it has a standard 3.5mm headphone port. And (from what I see) a standard USB cable connector?


Correct and Micro USB standard connector charger yes and comes with an adapter to use legacy nokia both larger and small pin chargers to micro USB to charge on hand.

A-GPS and GPS are NOT the same thing. GPS is the actual tech. A-GPS just emulates it using cheap things like GSM tower calculations. AFAIK, it does not have GPS while the Nokia E75 does.


A-GPS is cell tower assisted GPS. In nut shell it uses Cell tower cordinates to help speed up GPS location which is same as traditional GPS just faster :)

Yep, I had a E61... It was just a personal opinion, but it just takes up space


Fold away keypad ftw ;)

#14 starburst1980

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Posted 03 June 2009 - 01:47

Just for a sneak preview: http://www.gsmarena....-review-342.php

#15 PT 13

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Posted 03 June 2009 - 01:48

A-GPS and GPS are NOT the same thing. GPS is the actual tech. A-GPS just emulates it using cheap things like GSM tower calculations. AFAIK, it does not have GPS while the Nokia E75 does.

(I may be confused so please someone clear it up for us :) )


No they are not the same thing...

A-GPS = GPS + Assistance via network

From wikipedia:

Assisted GPS, generally abbreviated as A-GPS, enhances the startup performance of a GPS satellite-based positioning system. It is used extensively with GPS-capable cellular phones as its development was accelerated by the U.S. FCC's 911 mandate making the location of a cell phone available to emergency call dispatchers.



So A-GPS is just like a "faster" GPS