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Until I see the proper CE pre-order, and/or bonuses the retailers then I won't be pre-ordering it, and they are cutting it tight date wise really lol.

But from what I know, HMV aren't bad delivery wise.

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Just pre-ordered from HMV :D

Sweet :) if we get enough people from the UK/EU we should start our own Neowin Fleet :shiftyninja:

I am so tempted......

The question is do I have time in my life for another MMO?

I gave up WoW 7 months ago (i think it was that long now) and am not missing it one bit, but we have STO next year and then following up is Old Republic!! You don't need another MMO...just these my friend :devil:

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Sweet :) if we get enough people from the UK/EU we should start our own Neowin Fleet :shiftyninja:

I'm up for that!

Just need to decide race, thinking of Klingons but you need to play as Starfleet for the first 10 lvls I've read...

Already told the wife I'll be busy for the month of Feb, then I need to find out the sub cost and decide if its worth continuing...

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That video was pretty sweet. I haven't induldged in an MMO in quite some time. Mainly because I don't have the time for them, and they all seem to be the same thing with a different face. I must say, I do love sci-fi. I loved playing EVE, but really didn't have the time needed to invest in it. And Bioware's new Star Wars MMO looks promising (and I LOVE Bioware) but this game looks quite a bit more interesting. And if there is a UK/EU fleet, then I vote for an American fleet! :)

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Sadly, my GF probably will have none of this lol.

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When I get the chance I am considering making a proper thread regarding Old Republic as the last classes have just been revealed and considering how massive the game is going to be, there's not much on here! I'll make it my mission by the end of this week to have an SW: TOR thread with full information.

Anyway, back to Star Trek, the trailer is sweet, nice to see some more of the ground combat, and I also noticed in one shot there's a female wearing the DS9 (and later TNG movie) uniform which I will be wearing if it comes in the EU CE...still waiting for news on that, and Cryptic are cutting it fine, people want to pre-order soon so they can get into open beta!!!

You're girlfriend won't mind, get her involved too :devil:

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I recently re-watched the 2009 Star Trek film and it revitalized my inner-Trekkie. I have high hopes for this game and I really hope it doesn't turn out to be a disappointment. Oh, and as for an American fleet... where's the love for Canada? North American fleet FTW.

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I have high hopes for this game and I really hope it doesn't turn out to be a disappointment.

I know the feeling, but I've pre-ordered now anyway @ ?17.99 its worth the risk:pp

My mate on the other hand is waiting to see what its like, hopefully I'll get a buddy code to give him ..:DD

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We await you're views Minifig, but as always it's something I will make up my own mind upon when the time comes (likely to be Open beta) as everyone has different views, for example I was a closed beta tester for Codemasters on their Lord of the Ring's game, and at first it was fun and exciting, but I soon grew bored by it, and while I love the atmosphere and the look of the game and the vast areas to explore, I felt sometime's it was too big and too much and I stopped playing the game but I have two friends who think very highly of the game and love to play it.

There's a lot of games that are pushed out too early, too unpolished and one of my friends feel's this could be the case with STO, but if you have played Cryptics previous games (City of Heroes/Villains etc) then you know not to expect certain things from them, and I think that some hardcore trekkies won't like the game purely because of the options you have on the ships and everything.

Trek games in general have been a big let down, in fact my two favourite Trek games have been 'A Final Unity' and 'Harbinger' (Oh dear, showing my age now as Final Unity was released in 1995 and Harbinger in 1996) and then of course Elite Force came later as well as being a 'Junior Guide' for Star Trek: Conquest Online (anyone here use to play that?). My main hope for STO is not some deep, immersive game in Trek lore, but a game where I can pick my style of ship, level up, go on away missions with friends, have some fun fighting the Klingons and just enjoying myself, and if it fulfills this, then I will be happy :)

It's been a long wait since Perpetual Entertainment first took on the STO game and gave me hope of a game where I could play as a Starfleet Captain with friends, and when they went bankrupt I was devastated, Cryptic picked up the torch and kept my deam alive... :cry:

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Have to agree with you Raktael, while I will admit to being a fan of star trek, some games have been truly awful.

For STO I'm hoping its not as immersive as EVE is, I simply don't have the time to play a game for 5 hours at a time. But I also hope its not a grind whoring game, I know 99% of MMO's have some sort of grind. EVE is far to much grind for ISK while WOW is too boring a grind. But since its a star trek theme I hope the grind won't bore me.

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Eve is so indepth, I have my inactive account sitting there, got very upset once when I took a wrong turn through a gate and got whoop assed by some pirates and lost what was effectively 150 million ISK of ship, additions and cargo :crazy:

There's always a grind, but hopefully if we have enough people playing we can run missions together and it won't be so boring and you can have a bit of fun, maybe go raid some Klingons :rolleyes: (or Federation) and enjoy yourself at the same time. I'm definately looking at the escort style ships, but until we get into game and give them all a try I won't say for certain thats what kind of style I'll go with. :)

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Eve is so indepth, I have my inactive account sitting there, got very upset once when I took a wrong turn through a gate and got whoop assed by some pirates and lost what was effectively 150 million ISK of ship, additions and cargo :crazy:

Yeah it can be a harsh game, played for about 4 years and quit this August. Done some really good stuff though in my earlier years. I was part of a large Alliance and built a few stations. That was fun, as we where building a community.

As for STO, from the videos I've seen its how I would have liked EVE to be played. Instead of point and click then F1->F6 :p I've no idea on the "quest" system or PVP mechanics. Can't be bothered to troll through the forums and will just find out when I play :crazy: :D

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Well, I need to read up some more as I can't check some sites from work...*grumbles* but I am sure from what I have read, if I remember that 'fleets' (guilds/clans) can group together and build stations and such like, if thats true...awesome...

I'm not sure on the 'general' quests, but I know they are doing like 'episodes' which go towards the general storyline of STO, you can take part in the episodes or just do you're own thing, but you gain bonuses by completing episodes and so on, so :cool:

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Well, they finally announced the Star Trek bonuses for the EU (or maybe just UK as no french details yet) and I have to say that I am actually really disappointed, we don't get a proper collectors edition, it's just a 'special edition' or as it is on play 'silver edition' now this could mean they announce another set to come, but here's the details for us in the UK/EU.

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Star Trek Online: Enhanced Silver Edition contents:

Star Trek Online game

30 Days Playtime

T-Shirt

Pack of 5 Collector Cards

Star Trek Universe Map

Bonus DLC Postcard with unique number

Now, granted the t-shirt is pretty cool, but where's our ship and in game boost and badge etc? The other confusing thing, is play.com is saying if you pre-order from them (39.99) then you will get the headstart and in game bonus skill points, where as game doesn't mention this but they are retailing at 29.99. HMV and Amazon are both at 17.99 with amazon showing the special edition, but no extra information yet. Also Gamestation are retailing the special edition, but so far no price on their website, I think i'll stick with game for now and see if any word comes through of a headstart and extras because I am not paying an extra ?10 just for a couple days and some in game bonus stat points and will check out gamestations price but i don't see it being any cheaper.

The only difference to above is if you buy D2D which is ?34.99 and gives you the open beta, early access and also an in game item, which is a personal shield for away team missions by the looks of it.

All in all, I'm bitterly disappointed and hope this gets addressed because it's rediculous...really tempted to import the US box (i imported Star Wars Galaxies many moons ago as they got it soooo much before the UK lol)

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Okay, popping onto the STO boards and chatting to a couple of people and apparently Cryptic have said the EU will be getting a CE but it has yet to be announced, so it looks like the current ones shown above as 'collectors editions' are just special editions and the proper EU CE has not been released yet.

Alot of us are concerned as to whether we will get a "proper" collectors edition, i.e. like the one Gamestop in the US offers that is a physical "box set" with the art book, communicator and TNG/DS9 uniforms. Can you confirm if retailers here will receive this?

We?ll be posting a description of what the EU is doing, but yes, there is something special for the EU

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so you believe that all the devs and admins should work for free after you've paid your $60?

where do you think your "lame subscription" goes? it's not like they're taking your money and using it to light cigars

like Raktael said, server maintenance, patching, developing new content, support and probably an entire department to listen to everyone whine and complain about nerf this and that.

i suppose there's another solution, instead of paying a monthly fee they could just charge you $500 for the game

Why do other online games not require subscriptions?

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Why do other online games not require subscriptions?

Please define the other online games you are referring to, because most of the good ones, let's see...WoW, Eve, Aion, Everquest, LotRo and plenty more all require monthly subscriptions, and in fact the MMO's that don't have a monthly sub earn their money other ways, usually by making you pay to buy in game items and such like, or even obtain their money through content packages rather than free updates that you will get with the big MMO's.

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