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#1 ATØMIK

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Posted 21 October 2009 - 03:58

I just recently upgraded to windows 7 ultimate 64-bit from 32-bit, and I have this problem with winamp. Whenever I open it up and play any radio station, after about 30sec I get the error message "Winamp has stopped working" and it closes. In WMP it plays fine. I also like to listen to some other internet radio stations which are in .asx format and WMP doesn't play those.

Any suggestions? Thanks.


#2 PurePhoenix

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Posted 21 October 2009 - 09:18

.asx files are extremely dangerous. Don't ever, ever use them.

Winamp has multiple issues with W7 - and understandably, the audio system in W7 has changed a fair bit since vista.
I run 5.55 fine on W7 7200 RC 1 64-bit.

Anything newer should work fine on any version you are running.

#3 +Preppy

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Posted 21 October 2009 - 17:44

^-- Are you trolling... ?

Why doesn't WMP play those ASX files... ? What happens?

What's the fault data for the WinAMP crash?

#4 PurePhoenix

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Posted 21 October 2009 - 19:38

What? You are making absolutely zero sense.
The asx exploit is extremely well known - well enough known that M$ has actually released a security patch for Windows Media Player concerning it.

http://www.microsoft...;displaylang=en
The exploit exists in a high percentage of custom softwares as well, not just media player.

#5 OP ATØMIK

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Posted 21 October 2009 - 20:16

^-- Are you trolling... ?

Why doesn't WMP play those ASX files... ? What happens?

What's the fault data for the WinAMP crash?


When I open an asx file in WMP I can't press play for it to work. I have to fast forward a bit then it starts to play.

How do I access the fault data? All it gives me is a "winamp has stopped working" window and I only have the option to close it and nothing else.

#6 hdood

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Posted 21 October 2009 - 20:23

.asx files are extremely dangerous. Don't ever, ever use them.

Don't be stupid. Pretty much all online content that streams in Windows Media uses ASX. I'm sure your security patch there is useful for all the people out there running Windows 98 though.


As to why WinAmp crashes, it's just because it doesn't support the new Windows 7 codecs. It happens to lots of people.

#7 PurePhoenix

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Posted 21 October 2009 - 20:36

Don't be stupid. Pretty much all online content that streams in Windows Media uses ASX. I'm sure your security patch there is useful for all the people out there running Windows 98 though.


Who cares about windows media? If you're going to stream, it should be done properly or not at all.
It appears that over 3/4 of ASX procedure handling software STILL has this exploit, just Google "ASX Exploit" to see a list of 10 odd different softwares just on the first page of results.
I've seen ASX files exploit WMP 10 and 11, up until M$ releases the security patch ALL versions of WMP were vulnerable.
FYI, WMP 6 (The ver this patch was released for) actually comes bundled in XP.

As to why WinAmp crashes, it's just because it doesn't support the new Windows 7 codecs. It happens to lots of people.

That's not possible. There's no "New" Windows 7 codecs and Winamp doesn't use them.
The only way to get winamp to play non-standard codecs to enable FLV's and many others is to install custom plugins specifically for winamp.
The rest is hardcoded.

#8 ahhell

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Posted 21 October 2009 - 20:42

Pro-tip:

Using M$ as an abbriviation for Microsoft makes you look like a tool.

On topic: You said you did an upgrade....did you try uninstalling then reinstalling the most recent Winamp?
<--- oops nevermind...dont think you can do an upgrade from 32 to 64 bit

#9 hdood

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Posted 21 October 2009 - 20:47

Who cares about windows media? If you're going to stream, it should be done properly or not at all.

It is one of the most popular streaming formats on the planet, and until the advent of flash video it completely dominated streaming. It's cute for you to sit there and say "who cares", but the reality is that WM is extremely popular. You can sit here and whine about ten year old exploits that are no longer relevant, but it's a complete derail.

That's not possible. There's no "New" Windows 7 codecs and Winamp doesn't use them.
The only way to get winamp to play non-standard codecs to enable FLV's and many others is to install custom plugins specifically for winamp.
The rest is hardcoded.

What? There are new codecs, and nothing is "hardcoded" in Winamp apart from MP3 and OGG. It just builds a default DirectShow graph with whatever filters have the highest merit. When it encounters many of the Microsoft ones, it will simply crash.

#10 PurePhoenix

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Posted 21 October 2009 - 20:52

Really? prove it. Unless you can, i suggest you quit trolling. Because that is very obviously what you are doing.
The exploit may be 10 years old, true, i don't really care, it's still 100% relevant.
90% of my customers who had virii got it from either internet explorer, LimeWire or an asx exploit in WMPlayer while trying to watch porn.

#11 hdood

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Posted 21 October 2009 - 20:59

Prove what...?

And no, the exploit most certainly is not relevant on any modern system. Either your customers have systems that haven't been updated in half a decade, or more likely, they get viruses (the plural of virus) by being idiots. The onus is on you to prove that any such bugs exist in any currently shipping Microsoft software (or even third party software like Winamp). It doesn't. They've been fixed long ago.

#12 PurePhoenix

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Posted 21 October 2009 - 21:08

Err are you a complete retard? I linked the MS Patch not long ago.
It's not listed in Windows Update, it's a manual patch to apply.
When i encounter the issue, i patch the system and the patch is in my list of bare minimum softwares/updates to install on a system when i do a format.

I've already proven myself, it's not my fault if you know so little about the state of the I.T industry that you don't even know this patch isn't included in the "Essential" security patches list on WU.

#13 hdood

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Posted 21 October 2009 - 21:13

Err are you a complete retard? I linked the MS Patch not long ago.
It's not listed in Windows Update, it's a manual patch to apply.


Windows Media Player 6.4 Security Patch: ASX Processor Contains Unchecked Buffer

[...]

System Requirements
* Supported Operating Systems: Windows 2000; Windows 95; Windows 98; Windows NT
* Windows Media Player 6.4


You do realize that it's 2009 now, right? You're not writing this through a tear in the fabric of time, are you? I can't be bothered with this nonsense. If you want to go on claiming that a known ten year old bug in one of the most widely used playlist formats in the world hasn't been fixed and that you need to go and download an ancient patch to fix it, then so be it. Live your delusion.

#14 PurePhoenix

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Posted 21 October 2009 - 21:18

Buddy, Windows Media Player 6.4 comes with windows xp. You might want to mark it down as a typo that it's not listed on the MS site.

EDIT: I shouldn't have to mention, windows XP *IS* 10 years old almost. It was released in 2000.
Finally, "Ancient patch" or not, it's still relevant, not having it still enables people to install custom dll's on your system via the ASX exploit.

#15 hdood

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Posted 21 October 2009 - 21:22

Buddy, Windows Media Player 6.4 comes with windows xp. You might want to mark it down as a typo that it's not listed on the MS site.

It isn't a typo. The version that ships with XP is already fixed. Even if it hadn't been (it is), you'd have to be high beyond belief to think that a critical vulnerability would remain unpatched for the entire lifetime of the OS unless you went and manually installed a patch.

XP was released in late 2001, and has been updated continuously since. Even if we for argument's sake say that other bugs have also cropped up over the years, they've all been fixed long ago and the only people still affect are those running extremely old and unpatched (by WU) systems. You are now in a thread about Windows 7 and the latest version of Winamp.



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