+Warwagon MVC Posted October 25, 2009 MVC Share Posted October 25, 2009 (edited) Something about that Windows 7 start-up animation that bugs me. I have this feeling that the startup process will not go any farther until that flashy little thing swirls around the screen and comes together. With XP and vista if you had a fast ssd the loading bar would be there for a few seconds and then blink its gone. I feel that with Windows 7 you have to wait for that animation to appear. Then master2k27 recommended turning off the GUI boot. So I did. the result? From the moment I press enter on "normal startup, until I get a cursor on the black screen" SSD LaptopWith the GUI turned on 20.56 seconds With the GUI turned off 16.53 seconds. i7 920With GUI - 41.81 seconds Without GUI 34.47 seconds. Try it for yourself. To turn off the GUI boot go into Msconfig and click on the boot tab. Then check "No GUI boot". Though I prefer you time your startup time first before you turn it off so you have something to compare it to. The method I used to time both boot times is this. I first get the advanced startup menu up by pressing f8. I then select boot normally. I then put one finger on my watch and another on the enter key and press then both at the same time. Edited October 25, 2009 by warwagon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
master2k27 Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 there is an option in windows for non GUI boot. forgot where :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Warwagon MVC Posted October 25, 2009 Author MVC Share Posted October 25, 2009 there is an option in windows for non GUI boot. forgot where :p Wonder if it helps, and ya I know what you are referring too. I think its under msconfig. I should try it and time the boots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightwind Hawk Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 Yeah, you can do a non-gui boot through msconfig (on the startup tab). The only problem with this (which hesitates me from doing it) is you will not see any error screens either if it hangs/pauses. But then again, I've never had any problems period so... I suppose I should do it too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Veteran Posted October 25, 2009 Veteran Share Posted October 25, 2009 I'm pretty sure Windows is doing something during the flag animation. I'm not sure what, though. :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raikou Tch Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 (edited) Yeah I've thought that too. My hard drive isn't consistently doing anything until the animation starts, so I'm wondering if they could save a bit of time in there somewhere. Edit: Interesting, I timed both disabled and enabled GUI-boot options, and the non-GUI boot was about 2 seconds faster. Edited October 25, 2009 by Raikou Tch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+devHead Subscriber² Posted October 25, 2009 Subscriber² Share Posted October 25, 2009 Something about that Windows 7 start-up animation that bugs me. I have this feeling that the startup process will not go any farther until that flashy little thing swirls around the screen and comes together. With XP and vista if you had a fast ssd the loading bar would be there for a few seconds and then blink its gone. I feel that with Windows 7 you have to wait for that animation to appear. You should read the Windows 7 blog about that animation; they actually changed its function and from where it runs in order to make sure there was no hesitation in it, but I doubt very very seriously that it slows the actual start up down. I've deleted the RSS feed from my bookmarks, but I'm sure if you do a Google search for Engineering Windows 7 you'll find it. It was pretty interesting. But I don't think it slows anything down. Remember in Vista, you had the loading bar, but then after that you had the glowing orb before the logon screen? There's no more orb in 7, it's straight to the logon screen from the 'Starting Windows' page. I would time it and see if there is a difference in boot times without it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Warwagon MVC Posted October 25, 2009 Author MVC Share Posted October 25, 2009 Wonder if it helps, and ya I know what you are referring too. I think its under msconfig. I should try it and time the boots. Ok I just tested it. On my SSD Laptop. From the moment I press enter on "normal startup, until I get a cursor on the black screen" With the GUI turned on 20.56 seconds With the GUI turned off 16.53 seconds. Now i'm going to test it on my i7 920 ... brb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trong Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 There's a chance that it could be the BIOS fault for the hanging times before the animation starts up. However, the Windows animation is always there for the same amount of time on all the computers in my house and it's the blank screen's time that varies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
null_ Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 I've deleted the RSS feed from my bookmarks, but I'm sure if you do a Google search for Engineering Windows 7 you'll find it. Here they are... http://blogs.msdn.com/e7/archive/2008/08/2...erformance.aspx http://blogs.msdn.com/e7/archive/2009/02/1...-animation.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightwind Hawk Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 There's a chance that it could be the BIOS fault for the hanging times before the animation starts up. However, the Windows animation is always there for the same amount of time on all the computers in my house and it's the blank screen's time that varies. No, I don't think he means the entire bootscreen is lagging... It starts by saying "Starting Windows" and then 5 seconds later or whatever, it does that animation. It's a "feature" :-P But wow, the bootscreen cut 4 seconds off. Nice. I should try this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trong Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 No, I don't think he means the entire bootscreen is lagging... It starts by saying "Starting Windows" and then 5 seconds later or whatever, it does that animation. It's a "feature" :-PBut wow, the bootscreen cut 4 seconds off. Nice. I should try this... Oh no, I got that hahaha. :p I didn't mean to convey that it was actually "hanging". I was just referring to the black screen that said "Starting Windows". I was trying to figure out if Windows was actually loading any files during the "empty" screen. I guess I forgot what the boot screen looked like cause I forgot that text was there before the logo showed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Warwagon MVC Posted October 25, 2009 Author MVC Share Posted October 25, 2009 OK the results on my i7 920 computer. From the time I press enter on boot normally until I see a white cursor With GUI - 41.81 seconds Without GUI 34.47 seconds. I want other people in this thread to also try this and post your results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
master2k27 Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 wow that is a big diffrance. why do we even need to see the logo its at the bottom right of my desktop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightwind Hawk Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 OK the results on my i7 920 computer. From the time I press enter on boot normally until I see a white cursorWith GUI - 41.81 seconds Without GUI 34.47 seconds. I want other people in this thread to also try this and post your results. wow.... okay, that inspires me to try it now. wow that is a big diffrance.why do we even need to see the logo its at the bottom right of my desktop ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliot B. Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 ? I believe he's talking about a Windows sticker lol... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
null_ Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 OK the results on my i7 920 computer. From the time I press enter on boot normally until I see a white cursorWith GUI - 41.81 seconds Without GUI 34.47 seconds. I want other people in this thread to also try this and post your results. Interesting... how are you measuring the start-up time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike415 Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 (edited) Trying now 49 41.5 from power button to desktop Edited October 25, 2009 by Mike415 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yxz Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 method of timing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Warwagon MVC Posted October 25, 2009 Author MVC Share Posted October 25, 2009 Interesting... how are you measuring the start-up time? I first get the advanced startup menu up by pressing f8. I then select boot normally. I then put one finger on my watch and another on the enter key and press then both at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wannes Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 Awesome suggestion! Thanks for that lads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightwind Hawk Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 Time till white cursor at welcome screen (from the power button on a dell laptop): with gui - 23 seconds without gui (try #1) - 29 seconds without guy (try #2) - 20 seconds um.... lol. well, in conclusion, my computer isn't very consistent. perhaps it was getting used to the change the first try? either way, i think i can wait 3 extra seconds to see the animation. it's worth it :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lnmnky Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 I first get the advanced startup menu up by pressing f8. I then select boot normally. I then put one finger on my watch and another on the enter key and press then both at the same time. Have you tried any tests with windows sounds? I'm sure with boot and login sounds disabled it's quicker. Maybe it's placebo though. I don't want to reboot to test it though :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex2190 Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 im on an i7 920 system with 6 gigs of 1600 mhz RAM and raid 0 SSD and i noticed turning off GUI made it feel a couple seconds faster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Warwagon MVC Posted October 25, 2009 Author MVC Share Posted October 25, 2009 Time till white cursor at welcome screen (from the power button on a dell laptop):with gui - 23 seconds without gui (try #1) - 29 seconds without guy (try #2) - 20 seconds um.... lol. well, in conclusion, my computer isn't very consistent. perhaps it was getting used to the change the first try? either way, i think i can wait 3 extra seconds to see the animation. it's worth it :p Upon my 2nd reboot test on my i7 the no gui was even faster yet. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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