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#31 Sethos

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 20:40

Sethos has BIG love for GT5 so nope I don't think that there was any sarcasm in his post :)


Indeed, I always loved the Gran Turismo series - I did start out with a negative view on the game, especially after the prologue but that last time-trial demo showed me, they really had
improved handling tenfold and the game is shaping up to be a massive Game of the Year contender.


#32 red.

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 21:21

Sethos has BIG love for GT5 so nope I don't think that there was any sarcasm in his post :)


Yeah it was slightly in jest because I saw that Sethos was a fan of Prologue. It's just that i'm used to him being pessimistic in general :p

#33 cripplord

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Posted 28 June 2010 - 10:07

Agreed. They seem to have completely lost the core concept of their own series. They said last year this game was completely ready to come out, yet they keep adding stuff. Just release the damn game


Everyone moaning about the go kart and trackeditor should stop complaining its not what delayed the release(by much anyway), some bugs, 3D support(a little) and the massive 1000+ cars is what delayed it. while they graphics designers were working away making the cars the programmers COULD have sat back and done nothing and just said our work is done! And for the last 2 years (minus a few bugs and the 3D which takes no time to add at all) chilled out. soit would delay release barely at all and if they didnt include everything including the kitchen sink after all this time you guys would be moaning what did they do in all that time!! it amazes me how a company can do something right for a change such as telling the programmers to get off there backside and do more while they wait for all the cars to be finish and people moan about it!!

look at it this way i can be 99.9% curtain when i say 3D,trackeditor, go-karts all together probably added maybe 4 months maximum to the project more like 1 or 2 months if you ask me all these features are being added while they wait for all the cars, tracks and graphical content to be made why waste that time telling programmers to sit on there backside and wait encase some gamers complain about a features they dont like which as we all know you can just NOT use.

as for those who say they lost there way added features outside scope of the game...not really its a racing simulator go-karting=racing, tracks to race on (homemade or not)=racing, 3D=racing more realistically so please where did the "REAL racing simulator" go off scope???? and the reason they went off there usual setup is a) why waste time as i said before may as well use time to add more. and b) gran turismo has always added more than was needed look at licence test in gt titles and secondhand cars first game to do a decent modding engine setup (fell behind alot since mind) all they are doing is adding more with the power the PS3 gives them.i do think the release is way overdue and should have been last year at the latest but if they are delayed because of wanting more cars and a bug or two why not make it up to us by doing something productive with the team who are idle like i dunno say add a track editor or go-karting maybe!!

be god damn greatful they didnt do what all the money grabbing titles are doing atm which is add items or features but only if you "pay for the DLC" no doubt it will come but most likely only the cars and tracks which is anoying but not as back as charging for different game modes and features like some games do!!

#34 Vice

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Posted 28 June 2010 - 10:15

Sometimes I wonder if this game will ever come out.

#35 MightyJordan

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Posted 28 June 2010 - 10:20

Sometimes I wonder if this game will ever come out.

Well, it's got a release date, at least. November for America.

#36 Kvally

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Posted 28 June 2010 - 10:23

It's had release dates before, at least in Japan, which has come and gone.

#37 thechronic

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Posted 28 June 2010 - 10:28

track editors are nothing new, christ i had that on Micromachines 96' on my Sega Megadrive :laugh:

#38 MightyJordan

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Posted 28 June 2010 - 10:29

It's had release dates before, at least in Japan, which has come and gone.

Yes, but it's America this time, so a better chance of the date actually being true.

#39 Vice

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Posted 28 June 2010 - 10:31

It just seems to me that each time the game comes close to being released they announce it has some new feature that will set it back a few more months. Night Driving, Vehicle Damage, 1000 Cars, Track Editor, Go-Karts, Changing Weather, Top-Gear test Track.

Ya know what I mean? I've been following the release of GT5 on-and-off since Prologue released and I think they are simply dreaming to big with this and need to get it out of the door. They can release updates later over the internet or release another GT6 a year later etc

#40 XerXis

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Posted 28 June 2010 - 10:41

Indeed, I always loved the Gran Turismo series - I did start out with a negative view on the game, especially after the prologue but that last time-trial demo showed me, they really had
improved handling tenfold and the game is shaping up to be a massive Game of the Year contender.


the only question is, what year? :p

#41 Xerxes

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Posted 28 June 2010 - 10:41

Seriously, go-karts? I know ragging on a product for including things is a bit questionable, but I think their project requirements have completely gone out of the window. They haven't got a clue about what they should, and what they should not include, they're sticking everything including the kitchen sink in this, which is nice, but you know, it's meant to be a racing game, and they're kind of going outside the scope of that. And it has for sure affected release dates.

Ah but you see it isn't! GT is NOT a racing simulator but a DRIVING simulator, so adding go karts make perfect sense to me. The game is interactive museum/tribute to all things that can be driven and the thrill of driving, always has been and always will be.

#42 Kvally

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Posted 28 June 2010 - 10:50

Yes, but it's America this time, so a better chance of the date actually being true.

And yet it might not be. I won't trust the date until the game is physically in our hands. Where it belongs.

#43 MR_Candyman

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Posted 28 June 2010 - 10:54

Everyone moaning about the go kart and trackeditor should stop complaining its not what delayed the release(by much anyway), some bugs, 3D support(a little) and the massive 1000+ cars is what delayed it. while they graphics designers were working away making the cars the programmers COULD have sat back and done nothing and just said our work is done! And for the last 2 years (minus a few bugs and the 3D which takes no time to add at all) chilled out. soit would delay release barely at all and if they didnt include everything including the kitchen sink after all this time you guys would be moaning what did they do in all that time!! it amazes me how a company can do something right for a change such as telling the programmers to get off there backside and do more while they wait for all the cars to be finish and people moan about it!!

look at it this way i can be 99.9% curtain when i say 3D,trackeditor, go-karts all together probably added maybe 4 months maximum to the project more like 1 or 2 months if you ask me all these features are being added while they wait for all the cars, tracks and graphical content to be made why waste that time telling programmers to sit on there backside and wait encase some gamers complain about a features they dont like which as we all know you can just NOT use.

as for those who say they lost there way added features outside scope of the game...not really its a racing simulator go-karting=racing, tracks to race on (homemade or not)=racing, 3D=racing more realistically so please where did the "REAL racing simulator" go off scope???? and the reason they went off there usual setup is a) why waste time as i said before may as well use time to add more. and b) gran turismo has always added more than was needed look at licence test in gt titles and secondhand cars first game to do a decent modding engine setup (fell behind alot since mind) all they are doing is adding more with the power the PS3 gives them.i do think the release is way overdue and should have been last year at the latest but if they are delayed because of wanting more cars and a bug or two why not make it up to us by doing something productive with the team who are idle like i dunno say add a track editor or go-karting maybe!!

be god damn greatful they didnt do what all the money grabbing titles are doing atm which is add items or features but only if you "pay for the DLC" no doubt it will come but most likely only the cars and tracks which is anoying but not as back as charging for different game modes and features like some games do!!

So you're saying the programmers are wiaiting for the graphics designers to catch up. And they are doing this by making new vehicles. Do you realise just how backwards that logic is? There's a couple of things wrong with that statement: 1: I know how games are made because my brother makes them. The graphics are actually usually the first thing done. The reason so many games are buggy is because the programmers are the ones pressed for time. 2: Introducing more vehicles is just adding work for the graphics designers. Once the programmers make the basic engine to the game, programming in new vehicles takes only a couple of minutes, while the graphics certainly won't. Perhaps it's the graphic artists they are trying to keep busy? I don't know.

What you seem to forget is that Gran Turismo from the start was supposed to be a DRIVING simulator, not a racing simulator. It's whole essence was to make a game that made it feel like you were driving the real car. Yes, it's always been centered around racing, but that's because just driving around would be boring. Still, there is that distinction, which is very important. What they used to do was spend a lot of time driving the vehicles to get a good feeling of them. Do you really think they are doing that with all the extras they are adding now? I don't. I also believe that if they are just haphazzardly adding in these extras, they might not have done the good job they always have with the primary cars in making them drive like the real thing. Also, as Vice said, every time the release date starts getting close, they announce some new feature they simply must have and push the date back a few months. They should just release the game and start work on the next one. They could have released 2 great games in this time frame.

#44 Audioboxer

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Posted 28 June 2010 - 13:15

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#45 Audioboxer

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Posted 28 June 2010 - 22:02

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