Raa Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 Hi all! Just noticed that posts can now be repped down as well as up. Is this an official change of stance from Neowin management about how rep is issued? Last I knew it negative rep wasn't going to be used (I forgot the reason). Feel free to comment, fellow Neowinians. Good or bad move? Colin-uk and Steven P. 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minifig Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 I think it's a good thing... If someone gets enough in the negative, that should be a great sign that one of our beloved and awesome moderators should delete it and/or possibly warn the poster for the post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven P. Administrators Posted July 10, 2010 Administrators Share Posted July 10, 2010 It has been enabled for Staff & MVC's only ;) When a person is derailing a post or is being warned, staff will have the ability to negative vote the offending post. This ensures (over time) that we don't have members on 80% warn with a load of positive rep points. PS: We are going to trial it, and see how it goes too.. enigma-penguin, morphen, KRazpopov and 1 other 4 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee G. Veteran Posted July 10, 2010 Veteran Share Posted July 10, 2010 I just noticed it too. I was searching the forums to see if there was an announcement. I think it's a good thing, but as Neobond has said, it could be abused. I hope it isn't though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raa Posted July 10, 2010 Author Share Posted July 10, 2010 Thanks for the heads up, Neobond. It just appeared, I didn't actually test it - but assumed I could neg-rep a post. But if is not enabled for standard users, that's a good move, IMO. Chester0 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Frank B. Subscriber² Posted July 10, 2010 Subscriber² Share Posted July 10, 2010 I just noticed it too. I was searching the forums to see if there was an announcement. I think it's a good thing, but as Neobond has said, it could be abused. I hope it isn't though. Exactly - we'll see how it works out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
what Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 If so few people can actually use it, can it be hidden for those of us who can't? :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brentaal Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 I'm the perfect example of why the previous system was broken. (Y) *points at his own reputation* KRazpopov, homeboyrocketshoulders, ATGC and 1 other 4 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunknMunky Veteran Posted July 10, 2010 Veteran Share Posted July 10, 2010 I actually like the idea of keeping it for mods/mvcs only tbh. Calum and Raa 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven P. Administrators Posted July 10, 2010 Administrators Share Posted July 10, 2010 If so few people can actually use it, can it be hidden for those of us who can't? :p IPB says No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LingeringSoul Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 (edited) I actually like the idea of keeping it for mods/mvcs only tbh. Agreed. I wouldn't give it to anybody else, not even subscribers. It's just too easy for people to abuse it when emotions run high (which they often do in the GH for instance). EDIT: Typo Raa 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiagosilva29 Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 I'm the perfect example of why the previous system was broken. (Y) *points at his own reputation* /me upboats brentaal ATGC and brentaal 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raa Posted July 10, 2010 Author Share Posted July 10, 2010 Absolutely agreed. No-one less than a staff/MVC should have access to such a potentially abusive and Neowin-career-damaging feature! No, seriously. Steven P. 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven P. Administrators Posted July 10, 2010 Administrators Share Posted July 10, 2010 Absolutely agreed. No-one less than a staff/MVC should have access to such a potentially abusive and Neowin-career-damaging feature! No, seriously. LOL I like ;) (Y) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee G. Veteran Posted July 10, 2010 Veteran Share Posted July 10, 2010 Agreed. I wouldn't give it to anybody else, not even subscribers. It's just too easy for people to abuse it when emotions run high (which they often do in the GH for instance). EDIT: Typo Yeah, I would have to agree with that. It's just too easy to abuse the feature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singh400 Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 Not so sure this is a good idea. Something like this needs to be closely monitored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven P. Administrators Posted July 10, 2010 Administrators Share Posted July 10, 2010 Not so sure this is a good idea. Something like this needs to be closely monitored. Well the idea is, that when a poster is warned for a post (or not, just derailing a thread) then the karma reflects this as well as the actual warning. Does it make anymore sense that a bad poster who is constantly being warned has a positive rep of over a hundred? It could potentially lower the number of warnings for minor infractions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chasethebase Reporter Posted July 10, 2010 Reporter Share Posted July 10, 2010 Not so sure this is a good idea. Something like this needs to be closely monitored. Read the details, only Staff and MVC's have the ability to make use of this feature. So it doesn't need to be monitored, in theory. Steven P. 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
what Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 IPB says No. I'm sure one of your underpaid developers knows how :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Laidher Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 Im going to get a -100 in the gun threads for my views on the subject lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiagosilva29 Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 Karma? What the hell? I think that the concept of "popularity" is being mixed with "reputation". The inicial approach was all about "popularity" and now it's all about "reputation"... and this reputation is set by people that often don't act properly? ATGC and |Rapture| 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven P. Administrators Posted July 10, 2010 Administrators Share Posted July 10, 2010 Karma? What the hell? I think that the concept of "popularity" is being mixed with "reputation". The inicial approach was all about popularity and now it's all about "reputation"... and this reputation is set by people that often don't act properly? Thats your opinion, not that I agree with it; plus it became a true karma tool when negative voting was enabled ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Laidher Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 When you go into a thread and post a respectable post you still might get a negative rep which is B.S.Just because you don't agree doesn't make it wrong. If the majority see one thing one way and you don't you'll likely get a negative point rather than no points. I can see it happening to me all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven P. Administrators Posted July 10, 2010 Administrators Share Posted July 10, 2010 When you go into a thread and post a respectable post you still might get a negative rep which is B.S.Just because you don't agree doesn't make it wrong. If the majority see one thing one way and you don't you'll likely get a negative point rather than no points which is in IMO b.s. See this thread to better understand its purpose: https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/919032-omg-i-got-a-negative-vote-what-for/ seeing as this thread didn't do the trick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alladaskill17 Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 Not so sure this is a good idea. Something like this needs to be closely monitored. L2 read ;) Read the details, only Staff and MVC's have the ability to make use of this feature. So it doesn't need to be monitored, in theory. win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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