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After the successful thread [url="http://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/896934-meet-firefox-40-beta-12/"]Meet Firefox 4.0[/url] (with 5000+ comments!) , I come with the next version of Firefox thread :D It will be wonderful if you also post your search here. :)
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[size="5"][url="https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/Roadmap"]Firefox 2011 RoadMap[/url] [/size]

[img]http://mozilla.github.com/process-releases/draft/development_specifics/img/new_versions.png[/img]
[img]http://mozilla.github.com/process-releases/draft/development_specifics/img/ff5_schedule.png[/img]


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Development Status Related Sites :
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[url="https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/Features"]Features Priority List[/url]


[url="http://arewenativeyet.com/"]Are We Native Yet[/url]

[url="http://areweslimyet.com/"]Are We Slim Yet[/url]

[url="http://areweprettyyet.com/4/mainWindow/"]Are We Pretty Yet[/url]

[url="http://arewefastyet.com/"]Are We Fast Yet[/url]

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Downloads :
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[url="http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/latest-trunk/"]Nightly Builds[/url]
[url="http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/latest-mozilla-aurora/"]Aurora Builds[/url]
[url="http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/tinderbox-builds/"]Hourly Builds[/url]
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2nd! I hope Mozilla will shake thing up with their next release because the road to FF4 was full of gravels instead of paved asphalts.

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[quote name='flexkeyboard' timestamp='1299223259' post='593756770']
2nd! I hope Mozilla will shake thing up with their next release because the road to FF4 [b]was[/b] full of gravels instead of paved asphalts.
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Was? Ha!

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Bit early surely? Even with the hugely accelerated roadmap.
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[quote name='c3ntury' timestamp='1299224499' post='593756798']
Bit early surely? Even with the hugely accelerated roadmap.
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Technically, isn't Minefield going to go into FF5 once beta is complete? I think it did in the past since RC is basically bug fixes and quality assurance, which leaves the developers to go back to working on implementing features that did not make it into FF4.

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Once Firefox 4 is "finished", it'll branch off and the trunk will become Firefox 5 (which should be released about 3 months afterwards if they stick to the new schedule, so in June)

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can't really wait for this

http://areweprettyyet.com/5/desktopApps/#

also looking at this

http://paulrouget.com/e/nativecontrols

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[img]http://imgf.tw/117037309.jpg[/img]

This was posted on the [url="http://newdefault.tumblr.com/"]Mozilla UX thumblr[/url]

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They can't even get an RC out and yet Mozilla is looking at Firefox 4,5 6 and possibly 7 to be completed by the end of 2011.. It has taken 12 months on Firefox 4 and it is not finished yet. Beam me up!

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[quote name='Heartripper' timestamp='1299239138' post='593757110']
can't really wait for this

http://areweprettyyet.com/5/desktopApps/#

also looking at this

http://paulrouget.com/e/nativecontrols
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Yeah, very nice indeed.

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[quote name='Gary7' timestamp='1299468870' post='593764468']
They can't even get an RC out and yet Mozilla is looking at Firefox 4,5 6 and possibly 7 to be completed by the end of 2011.. It has taken 12 months on Firefox 4 and it is not finished yet. Beam me up!
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[quote name='The_Decryptor' timestamp='1299044886' post='593749388']
Since people keep claiming Firefox 4 is taking so long, I decided to actually go and look up the time between versions.

1.0 to 1.5: 1 year, 20 days
1.5 to 2.0: 10 months, 25 days
2.0 to 3.0: 1 year, 7 months, 24 days
3.0 to 3.5: 1 year, 13 days
3.5 to 3.6: 6 months, 22 days
3.6 to 4.0 (now): 1 year, 1 month, 9 days

So yeah, the time between 3.6 and 4.0 isn't that bad, and isn't even as long as the time between 2.0 to 3.0.

People said the same things about 3.0 as they're saying about 4.0 (Taking too long, too many beats, irrelevant, etc.). And funnily enough 3.0 was also the release that set the world record for downloads :laugh:
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Are they going to just continue on here: http://nightly.mozilla.org/ ?

Using the official RC atm.

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I think so. They said the updates will be pushed on the nightlies starting tomorrow.

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[quote name='Neobond' timestamp='1299753737' post='593775336']
Are they going to just continue on here: http://nightly.mozilla.org/ ?

Using the official RC atm.
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yea, all nightly builds are posted there

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Back on the nightlies.
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i like the concepts so far.

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Concepts are good cannot wait to see how Fx will evolve over the next few months. I hope it does not just end up being a Chrome Clone though.

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Yeah, so do I. That said, Mozilla is going to be speeding up releases in order to compete with Chrome (in fact, many major releases are scheduled for later this year, if I'm not mistaken). Along with that, expect smaller UI changes with each release. I wouldn't be surprised with FF 5.0 looked really similar to FF4.

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I'm interested in the site app tabs (pinning functionality) but less so, that all browsers (again) require a different way of doing it! :s lol

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[quote name='Neobond' timestamp='1300579005' post='593805186']
I'm interested in the site app tabs (pinning functionality) but less so, that all browsers (again) require a different way of doing it! :s lol
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Wrong: IE doesn't allow have app tabs. You can pin stuff to the taskbar but it's not the same thing. Sorry, felt like being a douche. :p

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[quote name='amon91' timestamp='1300578907' post='593805180']
Yeah, so do I. That said, Mozilla is going to be speeding up releases in order to compete with Chrome (in fact, many major releases are scheduled for later this year, if I'm not mistaken). Along with that, expect smaller UI changes with each release. I wouldn't be surprised with FF 5.0 looked really similar to FF4.
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Yeah, I read about the change in speed of releases. I like the idea of this as most of the updates in the last year have not been enhancements but security patches. Where as I would prefer to enhancement patches more recent :D

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[quote name='littleneutrino' timestamp='1300579249' post='593805198']
Yeah, I read about the change in speed of releases. I like the idea of this as most of the updates in the last year have not been enhancements but security patches. Where as I would prefer to enhancement patches more recent :D
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This would work not only for browsers, but for apps in general. Wouldn't it be awesome if you bought Photoshop and for x years you got incremental releases with new features every couple of months? Let go the current versioning system completely.

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[quote name='amon91' timestamp='1300579183' post='593805194']
Wrong: IE doesn't allow have app tabs. You can pin stuff to the taskbar but it's not the same thing. Sorry, felt like being a douche. :p
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Not quite, IE9 has a pinned app tab in the "Superbar" and Firefox will have it in the browser, same thing, two different locations for it.. But the same thing essentially. What I don't know is if this app tab will magically change with each different site/tab or if it will need to be like IE9 (its own Window).

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[quote name='Neobond' timestamp='1300579637' post='593805206']
Not quite, IE9 has a pinned app tab in the "Superbar" and Firefox will have it in the browser, same thing, two different locations for it.. But the same thing essentially. What I don't know is if this app tab will magically change with each different site/tab or if it will need to be like IE9 (its own Window).
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Personally I like neither. Back when I was using IE9 as main (that lasted 3 days, by the way), I just felt I could just bookmark the website and use it like that in most cases, without the need for a new window. Plus I tend to just navigate away from an app when I no longer need it, and with IE9, it would still display the colorful buttons and the app icon, even though I wasn't using the app anymore. That was annoying.

The "app tabs" also won't do it, since they reset whenever you launch the browser, and if you have many, they will run in the background all the time. The state of those stabs should be saved unless the user specified otherwise.

Web apps, it's a really early thing, everyone is still trying to figure out how to do it.

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Type inference has appeared on awfy now! Already faster than JM!

http://arewefastyet.com/?machine=9&view=regress

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