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#2611 Demz

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 06:11

DLBI will always have issues in Firefox


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Posted 12 December 2012 - 06:33

Why would it? Even with the current issues it's better than their previous method for invalidating content.

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 12:55

I agree with The_Decryptor that current DLBI implementation is better than previous since new implementation improved rendering, scrolling and painting a lot, site with DHTML improved a great deal.

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 19:08

And WebKit started as a fork of KHTML, Apple thought it was easier than writing their own engine (And Google decided the same)


Indeed. Although I think (and correct me if I'm wrong) that now KHTML and WebKit share patches and remain broadly compatible in terms of source code, so they are, for all intents and purposes, one codebase.

#2615 The_Decryptor

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 02:05

Yeah, main development has shifted over to WebKit, but KHTML is still kicking around for a few reasons (Although it's not as refined as WebKit or up to date, but some of the Linux guys don't like Apple and Google controlling their web browsers, quite rightly)

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 12:22

New builds to use system wide codecs to play media on web world on Vista+ OS: https://bugzilla.moz...gi?id=799315#c6

Try it...

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 20:21

New builds to use system wide codecs to play media on web world on Vista+ OS: https://bugzilla.moz...gi?id=799315#c6

Try it...


About time!

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 21:27

New builds to use system wide codecs to play media on web world on Vista+ OS: https://bugzilla.moz...gi?id=799315#c6

Try it...


Is this why the video on this page doesn't play in Nightly, but does in IE?

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 21:54

Zlip792, once more thank you for your Interesting/Important bugs list, always appreciated, I always come to this topic to find your posts :)


But let's be honest Firefox performance sucks... And yes, I am a Firefox user, been using it for the last 8 years.


I don't care about browser benchmarks, most of them are pointless. """" woohoo I'm 1ms faster than you!!!! """"


What I care is that I have PC's where I install Firefox and not only have I to turn off HWA but sometimes uninstall it completely.

It's GUI get's stuck on "Not responding" loops many times. It can't even use more than a core. And most netbooks I came across just run it horribly.


My Asus 1201N, with a dual core Atom, overclocked to 2.0GHz, with 4GB of RAM, ION GPU with 512 Ram, runs it like crap, HWA is off always.It's new tab, close tab animation is like watching a turtle go from left to right on my 24" screen!


Seriously ever since Electrolysis was canceled (Snappy and Super Snappy don't have the same goals, or have any ambition like it had), I lost hope that Firefox will be a better product from a performance standpoint in the near (or even longer) future.


Quite honestly, In the beginning of 2013 I'm going to give Chrome a shot. If the extensions do work like the ones I use in Firefox I'll probably just jump ship.

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 23:12

Chrome would probably be just as slow on that hardware (And it'll use more memory)

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 07:15

Zlip792, once more thank you for your Interesting/Important bugs list, always appreciated, I always come to this topic to find your posts :)


But let's be honest Firefox performance sucks... And yes, I am a Firefox user, been using it for the last 8 years.


I don't care about browser benchmarks, most of them are pointless. """" woohoo I'm 1ms faster than you!!!! """"


What I care is that I have PC's where I install Firefox and not only have I to turn off HWA but sometimes uninstall it completely.

It's GUI get's stuck on "Not responding" loops many times. It can't even use more than a core. And most netbooks I came across just run it horribly.


My Asus 1201N, with a dual core Atom, overclocked to 2.0GHz, with 4GB of RAM, ION GPU with 512 Ram, runs it like crap, HWA is off always.It's new tab, close tab animation is like watching a turtle go from left to right on my 24" screen!


Seriously ever since Electrolysis was canceled (Snappy and Super Snappy don't have the same goals, or have any ambition like it had), I lost hope that Firefox will be a better product from a performance standpoint in the near (or even longer) future.


Quite honestly, In the beginning of 2013 I'm going to give Chrome a shot. If the extensions do work like the ones I use in Firefox I'll probably just jump ship.


Really appreciated that bro.
Also I think Patrick changes regarding async proxy checking etc caused this Not Responding loop regressions and Honza is behind fixing it. Lets hope I am not confusing two issues although they might fix bugs. Firefox sucks when Windows Power Plan is not High Performance, there was a bug about it as well.

For all others, latest hourly support "per window" private browsing... Yuppeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!

Is this why the video on this page doesn't play in Nightly, but does in IE?


It might be. This will add Firefox support for H.264 codec as well and MP3 and other audio support. So overall win win situation for us and kind of Flash Plugin more quickly hurry to death.

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 07:28

In Inbound:
Ion Monkey Performance Improvement: https://bugzilla.moz...g.cgi?id=820676
Telemetry enhancement regarding shutdown times: https://bugzilla.moz...g.cgi?id=815709
Private Browsing Window focus bug: https://bugzilla.moz...g.cgi?id=819202
Ion Monkey crash fix: https://bugzilla.moz...g.cgi?id=820873
XUL related old bug: https://bugzilla.moz...g.cgi?id=263433
Regression fix: https://bugzilla.moz...g.cgi?id=820799
Mixed Content Blocking UI: https://bugzilla.moz...g.cgi?id=782654
Backout excessive invalidation on tomshardware: https://bugzilla.moz...g.cgi?id=805343
Click to Play improvement: https://bugzilla.moz...g.cgi?id=767638 , https://bugzilla.moz...g.cgi?id=767633
Download Panel fix: https://bugzilla.moz...g.cgi?id=820533
Per Window Private Browsing: https://bugzilla.moz...g.cgi?id=818732
Security related bug: https://bugzilla.moz...g.cgi?id=769288
GC:https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=816776
DASH WebM Stream support: https://bugzilla.moz...g.cgi?id=816726
Plugin version in Crash reports: https://bugzilla.moz...g.cgi?id=818664
Ion Monkey: https://bugzilla.moz...g.cgi?id=813671 , https://bugzilla.moz...g.cgi?id=814396

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 07:49

Nightly since last week feels a lot faster to me , the context menus open up faster , scrolling is quick. Feels great!

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 08:08

I might try Nightly again soon. I haven't really used it much for the last few months after experiencing a period of instability.

I've been getting a lot of bug spam about the private browsing window feature since then and i am hearing good things about performance improvents so I might as well give it a look.

#2625 +Zlip792

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 10:44

Nightly since last week feels a lot faster to me , the context menus open up faster , scrolling is quick. Feels great!


It is reverse for me, few days back Nightly was smacking fast but now it regressed little bit.

Off the Main Decoding is soon to come in Nightly so watch out for another performance improvement. Some session restore cleanup work in also work in progress which will make it faster. So overall going in good direction except Australis work.