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#1 presence06

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Posted 04 May 2011 - 15:08

A determination (PDF) by the court in the wake of NVIDIA's class-action settlement has left Mac users and many others angered at unfair treatment. Judge James Ware declared "without merit" objections from those who were told the only replacement option was an entry-level Compaq CQ-56 notebook. The sub-$500 notebook "meets or exceeds nearly all of the specifications" of the systems whose graphics failed, Judge Ware claimed, further believing that any missing components could be added in.

For most, Judge Ware's claims are openly false and ignore the class of system that was purchased. Affected systems were using either a GeForce 8400M or 8600M and in some cases still outperform the integrated Radeon HD 4250 graphics the CQ-56 uses. AMD's 2.3GHz Athlon V140 processor is also slow enough that some of the higher-end or more recent systems from the settlement period, which ended in September 2008, could still be faster.

The arguments have particularly frustrated MacBook Pro buyers covered under the settlement. Ware made no distinction between platforms and argued that a notebook with an "advanced operating system" like Windows 7 was enough, even if the user had bought a Mac. Critics have noted that, if users were required to use the settlement computer, they would have to repurchase hundreds of dollars worth of apps and might be locked out of certain apps entirely.

Systems have in some cases been covered by warranties. The inherent manufacturing defect that triggered the lawsuit could still mean some would have to buy entirely new notebooks to get an actual equivalent and has put attention not just on Judge Ware but on NVIDIA, which didn't take care to make a distinction between Mac and Windows users or the types of systems they bought.

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Posted 04 May 2011 - 15:14

Wow, that's just stupid beyond words. Chances are if they wanted Windows, they'd have bought a Windows machine. Good luck trying to get all your software running on a different OS.

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Posted 04 May 2011 - 15:16

A more important issue,
8600M >>>>>>> Radeon 4250

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Posted 04 May 2011 - 15:18

Mr. Ware sounds like a clueless moron.

Why can't they ever find judges that have the slightest understanding of tech to take care of cases like these.

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Posted 04 May 2011 - 15:20

That Judge is an idiot. Actually understand what you're doing before you make a decision.

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Posted 04 May 2011 - 15:26

Bribed judge is bribed.

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Posted 04 May 2011 - 15:29

Oh well, I'm happy that Apple has gone with ATI Radeon for their MacBook Pro and iMac's because I know in the future that is what I'll have to keep an eye out on.

Is it just me or is nVidia drivers horrible both on Windows and Mac when compared to ATI?

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Posted 04 May 2011 - 15:33

Oh well, I'm happy that Apple has gone with ATI Radeon for their MacBook Pro and iMac's because I know in the future that is what I'll have to keep an eye out on.

Is it just me or is nVidia drivers horrible both on Windows and Mac when compared to ATI?

Maybe on Macs, but on Windows... well lets just say that I regret buying ATi and will never make such a horrible mistake again and will go with a (in many respects) superior GPU from Intel.

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Posted 04 May 2011 - 15:34

Can't they just replace the Macbook under warranty, and also get this free PC in the settlement? :whistle:

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Posted 04 May 2011 - 15:38

Maybe on Macs, but on Windows... well lets just say that I regret buying ATi and will never make such a horrible mistake again and will go with a (in many respects) superior GPU from Intel.

I dunno, been pretty happy with my ATI under Windows. (Not so much on Linux though, but drivers are kind of iffy across the board anyway.)

ATI and nVidia shouldn't even matter though, it's the switching of the OS that's the big issue. Kind of like suing because of your PS3, and the judge awards you a nice shiny new 360. Yeaaaa kinda sorta the same thing, but there's this issue of the stack of coasters I suddenly wound up with.

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Posted 04 May 2011 - 15:38

Is it just me or is nVidia drivers horrible both on Windows and Mac when compared to ATI?

Uh what, my GTX285 has been working like a dream on my Mac Pro. Only their mobile versions have been craptacular.

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Posted 04 May 2011 - 16:31

The Judge clearly did not understand technology.

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Posted 04 May 2011 - 17:00

The thread title needs another "I". I'll fix that...

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Posted 04 May 2011 - 20:32

oh please! bring that judge back to uni and tech him some IT stuffs :s

if i were in lawsuit i would even be more angry and frustrated

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Posted 04 May 2011 - 20:36

Uh what, my GTX285 has been working like a dream on my Mac Pro. Only their mobile versions have been craptacular.


Mobile and desktop are now unified, so at least drivers are decent.

For the topic on hand, this is yet another example of the sometimes huge disconnect between the law and technology.

Also, of all machines to hand out, Compaq's? :rofl: