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#16 xendrome

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Posted 05 May 2011 - 15:38

Is it really a good thing that it's been shot down in its first mission.


I'm sure these have been used for years now.. and it wasn't shot down. Apparently the reports are that when it landed inside the compound, because of the high walls when it attempted to take back off, there was not enough area for the helicopter to create enough down force to get enough lift to get off the ground.

Probably had a malfunction on landing because it is new/prototype, and still has issues.


It's not a prototype, it's based on the Blackhawk, they have been used for years.


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Posted 05 May 2011 - 15:42

I bet the military has a bunch of secret stuff (and probably has had for years) that we can only dream about.

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Posted 05 May 2011 - 15:47

I bet the military has a bunch of secret stuff (and probably has had for years) that we can only dream about.


Yeap. The US military and Intelligence has a huge black budget for stuff like this.

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Posted 05 May 2011 - 15:55

It's not a prototype, it's based on the Blackhawk, they have been used for years.


Its not a BH. I have a friend that actually works at Sikorsky, and he says they have never built a BH that looks like that.

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Posted 05 May 2011 - 15:58

Its not a BH. I have a friend that actually works at Sikorsky, and he says they have never built a BH that looks like that.

considering it is a top secret craft, if you friend had built a BH that looks like that, he wouldn't be able to tell you anyway.

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Posted 05 May 2011 - 16:00

One thing about it, it's not a secret any more.

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Posted 05 May 2011 - 16:05

I am sure what is left of the copter is relatively minor to what actually makes it stealthy. Seals are not dumb, nor were the people planning this mission. I am sure they had a fail-safe in palce that if one went down..place explosives on X points to destroy all valuable parts.


yeah they did blow it up after it crashed to destroy it

I bet the military has a bunch of secret stuff (and probably has had for years) that we can only dream about.


they've always said the military is 20yrs ahead of what we see...

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Posted 05 May 2011 - 16:05

Is it really a good thing that it's been shot down in its first mission.


It wasn't shot down, the tail hit the wall during landing and the helo couldn't take off again, so they blew it up.

as for first mission, I believe there was a statement from some US governemtn that said they didn't want to comment on the helicopter but it had been on numerous successful missions before. The only reason we even know it exist is because the tail survived. So if it hadn't crashed, you wouldn't have known it existed (if it does). So just because one crashed now isn't enough to claim it was the first mission, which it most likely wasn't, you don't send unproven equipment on a job like this.

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Posted 05 May 2011 - 16:06

Is it really a good thing that it's been shot down in its first mission.


it wasn't shot down, it had a hard landing, apparently it was overheating due to the conditions that night

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Posted 05 May 2011 - 16:11

Not sure about that... stealth coatings are a major part of what makes an aircraft stealthy.


for helicopters there are other things that are far more important, mainly the rotors. since rotors by their very design are anti stealthy.

considering it is a top secret craft, if you friend had built a BH that looks like that, he wouldn't be able to tell you anyway.


More imrpotantly it might not even have been built there, since it supposedly based on the Blackhawk, the few models in use may be built at specialized secret labs using Black Hawk chassi. Afterall you don't build top secret stuff where you build your regulr run of the mill military gear :)

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Posted 05 May 2011 - 16:13

considering it is a top secret craft, if you friend had built a BH that looks like that, he wouldn't be able to tell you anyway.


He would.

That it was modified off site is much more likely. Or that it was never a BlackHawk, but something else.

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Posted 05 May 2011 - 16:15

I'd guess a Chinook or heavy lift chopper going along kind of defeats the purpose of a stealth chopper.

They only need that for the initial surprise.. Once they started shooting they could bring in just about anything that could have been trailing back..

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Posted 05 May 2011 - 16:17

How is "stealh" defined here ? Not alerting the humans of their presence ? If so, then it's not much of a stealth chopper, as that dude that blogged/tweeted about the whole thing had heard it.

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Posted 05 May 2011 - 16:18

I bet the military has a bunch of secret stuff (and probably has had for years) that we can only dream about.


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Posted 05 May 2011 - 16:21

If only :p