Yesterday Microsoft announced Vista's final RTM date - and yesterday they killed the last bit of Longhorn still in Vista. Microsoft Max, the digital media collaboration/sharing and information visualization is suit is officially dead. What was Microsoft Max, and is there still hope for a media-based team collaboration software? And if Microsoft Max was already so far along, why did it have to be killed?
Link: Microsoft Max Murdered
News source: NeoSmart Technologies
Quote -
Well, it’s official at any rate. Contrary to what you’ve heard, Windows Vista will not be shipping with any of the original technologies, features, capabilities, or subsystems originally promised. First it was the real Aero – complete visual control over one’s system. Amazing graphics, sidebars that were a part of the Windows Core, Aero Diamond. Then it was NGSCB and its amazing security features – not DRM, but total privacy control; your privacy. Monad. Last we heard, it was WinFS, the king-pin feature that was promised to change the way you think of data… And now the last one is gone: Microsoft Max is dead.
Link: Microsoft Max Murdered News source: NeoSmart Technologies
I tried reading that a few times and just couldn't figure out what you were trying to say.
Anyway, it will RTM before business customers get it, I am still hoping it will be very soon.
Bored to hell with x64.
MAX was a .net/Avalon demonstration project, and was freely availabel for XP as well. it was created simply to deomstrate the possibilities of the new technologies presented in Vista but also backported to XP.
oh and the technologies MAX was based on is still in vista. Maybe time to get a source that is not some anti MS zealot with a grudge or something ? someone with an ounce of clue what vista is and what is in Vista. since the quote there obviusly is not such a person...
What a necrophilic post
Anyway, I didn't expect that .NET tech demo app going anywhere really. Wasn't it just to demonstrate WinFX / .NET 3.0 a little? If you were looking for an actual usable application, I think you'd be better off looking at Picasa anyway.
Oh, and Max wasn't "the last bit of Longhorn in Vista". It was neither in Vista, nor a part of Longhorn. It was just a small standalone application.
What a necrophilic post
Well, not really. Look up the definition. I didn't see anything sexual about the post.
Well put my friend.
no
If that is what you think, you should kill yourself now. Vista is still a worthwhile upgrade.
You're not very bright are you.
Max Pain for Vista
The Constitution? But it also lets us tell them they're idiots... ;D
And, Computer Guru, is the other idiot that believes, copies, and pastes this article on here.
Yes, for those of you who don't understand humor, that was a joke.
I've been running it on my laptop as an upgrade to windows XP MCE and it caught 100% of my
hardware, and 100% of my software works perfectly. At least for me, it was very stable out of
the box, but I'm sure as with any OS, once it is "in the wild" it will have a few bugs.
finds himself being sized up by St. Peter.
"Well, Bill, I'm really confused on this call; I'm not sure whether to send you to Heaven or Hell. After all, you enormously helped society by putting a computer in almost every home in America, yet you also created that ghastly Windows Vista. I'm going to do something I've never done before.....
I'm going to let you decide where you want to go."
"So what's the difference between the two?" Bill asked.
St. Peter said, "I could let you visit both places briefly, if it will help your decision."
"Fine! Where should I go first?"
"You decide."
"Okay then," said Bill, "Let's try Hell first."
So Bill Gates went to Hell. It was a beautiful, clean, sandy beach with clear waters and lots of bikini-clad women running around, playing in the water, laughing and frolicking about. The sun was shining; the temperature perfect. He was very pleased.
"This is great!" he told St. Peter. "If this is hell, I'd REALLY like to see heaven!"
"Fine," said St. Peter, and off they went. Heaven was a place high in the clouds, with angels drifting about, playing harps and singing. It was nice, but nothing like Hell. It didn't take long for Bill to reach his decision.
"I think I prefer Hell," he told St. Peter.
So Bill Gates went to Hell. Two weeks later, St. Peter decided to check on the late billionaire to see how he was doing in Hell. When he got there, he found Bill, shackled to a wall, screaming amongst hot flames in a dark cave, being burned and tortured by demons.
"How's everything going?" he asked Bill Gates.
His voice filled with anguish and disappointment, Bill responded, "this is awful! This is nothing like the Hell I visited two weeks ago! I can't believe this is happening! What happened to that other place, with the beautiful beaches, the scantily-clad women playing in the water?"
"Oh, that was a demo," replied St. Peter. "This is the RTM."
...and a demo? It's not a game. An Alpha release would have been more precise.
...and a demo? It's not a game. An Alpha release would have been more precise.
dude, lighten up. It's a joke....... Well, I found it funny ....
finds himself being sized up by St. Peter.
"Well, Bill, I'm really confused on this call; I'm not sure whether to send you to Heaven or Hell. After all, you enormously helped society by putting a computer in almost every home in America, yet you also created that ghastly Windows Vista. I'm going to do something I've never done before.....
I'm going to let you decide where you want to go."
"So what's the difference between the two?" Bill asked.
St. Peter said, "I could let you visit both places briefly, if it will help your decision."
"Fine! Where should I go first?"
"You decide."
"Okay then," said Bill, "Let's try Hell first."
So Bill Gates went to Hell. It was a beautiful, clean, sandy beach with clear waters and lots of bikini-clad women running around, playing in the water, laughing and frolicking about. The sun was shining; the temperature perfect. He was very pleased.
"This is great!" he told St. Peter. "If this is hell, I'd REALLY like to see heaven!"
"Fine," said St. Peter, and off they went. Heaven was a place high in the clouds, with angels drifting about, playing harps and singing. It was nice, but nothing like Hell. It didn't take long for Bill to reach his decision.
"I think I prefer Hell," he told St. Peter.
So Bill Gates went to Hell. Two weeks later, St. Peter decided to check on the late billionaire to see how he was doing in Hell. When he got there, he found Bill, shackled to a wall, screaming amongst hot flames in a dark cave, being burned and tortured by demons.
"How's everything going?" he asked Bill Gates.
His voice filled with anguish and disappointment, Bill responded, "this is awful! This is nothing like the Hell I visited two weeks ago! I can't believe this is happening! What happened to that other place, with the beautiful beaches, the scantily-clad women playing in the water?"
"Oh, that was a demo," replied St. Peter. "This is the RTM."
That joke is a very old programmer joke. The original doesn't have Bill Gates.
and yes you have failed at being funny.
and yes you have failed at being funny.
No, the joke was from MS, giving some preview and new features of the OS and later removing it.
Off you go to the Last Chance Saloon. Microsoft Bob is waiting there to buy you a drink
There is only one "framework/technology" that has been killed off from Vista: WinFS
All the rest are still there, including the new audio stack, new networking stack, Windows Communication Foundation (Indigo, part of .NET 3.0), Windows Presentation Foundation (Avalon, part of .NET 3.0), DWM (Deskptop Composition) and tons tons tons more. A lot of new stuff was even added to the .NET 3.0 framework later on, such as Windows Workflow Foundation, CardSpaces etc.
Microsoft Max was never a part if Vista. It was a .NET 3.0 demonstration project.
Monad was never a part of Vista either.
There is only one "framework/technology" that has been killed off from Vista: WinFS
All the rest are still there, including the new audio stack, new networking stack, Windows Communication Foundation (Indigo, part of .NET 3.0), Windows Presentation Foundation (Avalon, part of .NET 3.0), DWM (Deskptop Composition) and tons tons tons more. A lot of new stuff was even added to the .NET 3.0 framework later on, such as Windows Workflow Foundation, CardSpaces etc.
Microsoft Max was never a part if Vista. It was a .NET 3.0 demonstration project.
Monad was never a part of Vista either.
And even WinFS wasn't truly removed form Vista.
WinFS "the project" was killed. but 2 of the 3 major parts of winfs exist in vista, after WinFS was split
WinFS "the project" was killed. but 2 of the 3 major parts of winfs exist in vista, after WinFS was split
B.S.
WinFS is NOT in Vista. Period.
WinFS was split in 3 main parts.
Of wich the search in vista is one of them, and the smart/virtual fodlers is another. both of them shared full codebase with WinFS.
WinFS was split in 3 main parts.
Of wich the search in vista is one of them, and the smart/virtual fodlers is another. both of them shared full codebase with WinFS.
isnt it suppose to be implemented in the next versions of sql?
redesigned desktop is not one of them, jack up prices for useless reasons
And I have tried all builds up to 5744, and till now, no stable drivers for my ATI IGP340, blue screen everytime I shut down. CPU usage always 70%, Too many processes running.....
I think Microsoft has start to wake up and see what they are doing....maybe stop wasting $$ on money losing projects like Zune and XBOX and get back to its core business. Building OSes.
And as for the drivers for your ATI chipset, guess what, that's ATI's fault, not Microsoft's. It's not up to MS to ensure that all your hardware works fine under a completely new driver model, it's up to the manufacturer.
And as for the drivers for your ATI chipset, guess what, that's ATI's fault, not Microsoft's. It's not up to MS to ensure that all your hardware works fine under a completely new driver model, it's up to the manufacturer.
Actually, its Microsoft's responsibility to ensure that Vista supports the currently available hardware out-there.
I'm not saying hardware that is more 3 yrs old, I mean those that are in the market for 1-2 yrs.
It is only in the best interest of MS. Otherwise, who would want to upgrade to Vista?
Do you honestly think the Zune will out-sell the ipod?
Till now, XBox has not made any $$ for MS. Go figure.
Last edited by zomber38 on 03 Nov 2006 - 06:35
hmm sony fanboy perhaps? lol
actually i think they'd do better focusing on games and xbox
Morons always pick on the 5 features that were cut out, why can't they embrace the hundreds that are still there ?
Morons always pick on the 5 features that were cut out, why can't they embrace the hundreds that are still there ?
Well said!
Max was not a pillar of vista, in fact from what i recall it didnt work on vista... what idiot wrote this????
It was a tech preview to help microsoft demo and test different technologies for later use in other programs... as the blog dictates the time for playing is over and now that they have worked it out it will be inocrporated into other products....
And winfs indeed still exists 2 of the 3 main aspects of it were put into vista... projects die and their assets get devided into different groups and programs thts what winfs was and thats what max was ... stop posting crap
and you should read more comments besides the ignorant #22
They are helping their status as number one Mac fanboy site! But I think of Neowin as the Al-Jazeera of the computing world.
Neowin could've just said "Microsoft Max has announced it is finishing development of the demo app." But no, they had to link to some idiot dramaqueen instead, even quoting some of what this guy said.
*sigh*
Edit: Speaking of which - why doesn't Neowin ever retract articles?
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