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BitTorrent acquires µTorrent

Daniel Fleshbourne   on 08 December 2006 - 13:36 · 51 comments & 14754 views

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BitTorrent has acquired µTorrent, another file-sharing application that uses BitTorrent's software protocol, it announced Thursday. The acquisition is another move by BitTorrent to make itself into a legitimate competitor in the online content business. Late last month, the company announced free and fee-based content distribution deals with a number of major Hollywood film and television studios, including News Corp.'s 20th Century Fox and Viacom's MTV Networks.

BitTorrent will incorporate µTorrent's optimization and other features into its own software as part of the acquisition, and add members of µTorrent's community to its own. The two have a combined user base of 135 million, BitTorrent said. It did not disclose financial terms of the deal.

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#1 illz55 on 08 Dec 2006 - 13:38
I really really hope this isn't the end of proper development of the best torrent client ever. From the looks of it, this is sad sad news though. "BitTorrent will incorporate µTorrent's optimization and other features into its own software as part of the acquisition".

... and now breathing a sigh of relief: http://forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php?id=17278
#2 Kushan on 08 Dec 2006 - 13:39
As long as Brahm stays the hell away from the program itself and sticks to protocol development, all will be well.
#3 +M2Ys4U on 08 Dec 2006 - 13:39
Bram has said they he'll be looking into putting µTorrent into embedded devices o.0
#4 ThePitt on 08 Dec 2006 - 14:31
This is a great news... for the utorrent owner/creator (Ludvig (Ludde) Strigeus)
(4 replies) #5 Arcticflare on 08 Dec 2006 - 14:31
Culture is irrelevant. Self-determination is irrelevant. Your culture will adapt to service us. Resistance... is futile.

Last edited by Arcticflare on 08 Dec 2006 - 14:48
#5.1 LTD on 08 Dec 2006 - 15:26
Your ass will be laminated . . .

(or something like that.)
#5.2 vetLOC on 08 Dec 2006 - 17:40
Haha, freaking awesome. I dunno why I laughed, since I disagree with everyone freaking out over this, but I guess the Trekkie in me just had to giggle.
#5.3 Arcticflare on 08 Dec 2006 - 20:12
#5.4 EduardValencia on 09 Dec 2006 - 20:26
lol
#6 Dirk on 08 Dec 2006 - 15:11
Nothing like waking up at 8 in the morning and getting on Neowin to see a great Star Trek reference. Thank you.
#7 Fubar on 08 Dec 2006 - 15:23
i feel for those that donated a great deal of money to the project
#8 DeMo_BR on 08 Dec 2006 - 15:58
Sad news.
How long till it gets all bloated and becomes u(seless)Torrent?
(2 replies) #9 thagame on 08 Dec 2006 - 16:10
bittorrent is bloated? wow you must have a really bad idea of the meaning of bloated
#9.1 Rivers on 08 Dec 2006 - 17:42
You must have really bad vision or cannot read
#9.2 yizuman on 09 Dec 2006 - 19:27
Any file size more than 5mb is to me, "bloated".

Bittorrent is in no doubt very, very bloated.

Bittorrent also made deals with RIAA, MPAA to remove and block any seeds that RIAA/MPAA considers piracy.

/is sad µTorrent decided to sell out to the devil like Bittorrent.

(1 reply) #10 LeoKesler on 08 Dec 2006 - 16:25
Can someone put the link to latest beta of uTorrent ? Just to keep safe a clean version of client, without any trace of ad's or apyware.
#10.1 rm20010 on 08 Dec 2006 - 16:49
Check here. This is 1.6.1 build 483, the build with the WebUI.

In the future, if µTorrent development ever goes downhill, there's OldVersion.com.
#11 machorro on 08 Dec 2006 - 16:27
hope they release a mac version now that they can have the funds *cross fingers*
#12 rm20010 on 08 Dec 2006 - 16:45
Some of those posters over at this thread are ANAL. It's like the typical "boycott" attitude some idiots have, trashing µTorrent as a POS... because they won't be able to pirate crap in the foreseeable future.
(1 reply) #13 Alpine` on 08 Dec 2006 - 16:46
Yes, this is unfortunate news. The future of uTorrent is questionable. At least for now nothing will change.

Bram is in bed w/ the MPAA and is working on "legit" content delivery. Bram is concerned with one thing. Corporatization and money. I cant blame him for wanting to make a living off of someone he worked so hard on. Everyone wants to get paid at the end of the day. Still, I just wish it was another client besides utorrent. Maybe Lude finally wants his payday too.
#13.1 vetLOC on 08 Dec 2006 - 17:42
Brad isn't "in bed" with anyone. More over, he's trying not to get sued off the face of the planet no? So he cuts a few deals with some media companies, so that he won't be 10 trillion bucks in dept the rest of his life, what's the big deal?

I think all the DRM/Big Brother/US is gonna invade Canada conspiracy people need to get a grip, seriously.
#14 PureLegend on 08 Dec 2006 - 16:55
Oh.

My happy just decreased by 2 points.
#15 Jaxkesa on 08 Dec 2006 - 17:24
D'oh
(2 replies) #16 Croquant on 08 Dec 2006 - 17:25
Oh geez, relax people. µTorrent, will remain in seperate development. Even if Warner pressures BitTorrent to shut down µTorrent, someone will pick up that ball and run with it.
#16.1 advancedboy on 09 Dec 2006 - 23:56
lets hope they release the source code...
#16.2 Tomi on 10 Dec 2006 - 09:37
Quote - advancedboy said @ #16.1
lets hope they release the source code...

It's been said they won't.
#17 Wolfsglen on 08 Dec 2006 - 18:24
Hmm.

Well time will tell, but i'd be a liar if i said my reaction was anything other than when i first read it.
#18 vetSMeK on 08 Dec 2006 - 18:40
Theres no way to tell if this is bad news yet, just wait out and see what happens.
#19 sorlag on 08 Dec 2006 - 18:53
uTorrent is the best torrent client out there...
I hope it doesnt turn into bloatware... (keep a backup install of the actual client, noone knows!
#20 DaViD_BRaNDoN on 08 Dec 2006 - 19:08
best.torrent.client.ever!
#21 EddieZ on 08 Dec 2006 - 19:18
Well, there goes the best and most pure BT clients.... Ofcourse the spiritual father of Utorrent made a great deal, good for him.

Who will pick up the nextgen of Utorrent ?
(1 reply) #22 TheGriffin on 08 Dec 2006 - 20:21
Don't care, I use BitComet which truly is the best BitTorrent client.
#22.1 RealFduch on 10 Dec 2006 - 16:23
it is so leechy that it makes me laugh
#23 crimsonhead on 08 Dec 2006 - 20:41
I have a bad feeling about this. *Holiday Dies*
(1 reply) #24 MuCtEr on 08 Dec 2006 - 20:46
this reminds me of when AOL bought winamp, well we all know how that ended up.
#24.1 eAi on 09 Dec 2006 - 16:02
Or what about Yahoo buying The All Seeing Eye then laying off all the developers and not touching it for 2+ years. The poor (edevelopers are now trying to support it themselves unofficially because Yahoo won't do anything with it.
(1 reply) #25 nonick on 08 Dec 2006 - 21:38
i hope it doesn't go downhill..

uTorrent really made me get into torrents or I wouldn't get into them at all.
#25.1 yizuman on 09 Dec 2006 - 22:13
Quote - nonick said @ #25
i hope it doesn't go downhill..


Oh it will, trust me, it will!

Quote -
uTorrent really made me get into torrents or I wouldn't get into them at all.


Same here!

#26 MrCobra on 08 Dec 2006 - 22:23
It was a nice piece of programming. Too bad it's going to become crap.
#27 Aero Ultimate on 09 Dec 2006 - 00:01
This sucks massively... uTorrent was the best out there, but now it's probably going down the drain
Just keep using the clean version 1.6 and when neccessary, switch over to some other client.
#28 l33t on 09 Dec 2006 - 05:21
oh noes, a good torrent client gone! /me uses uTorrent 1.6 forever, newer versions of utorrent will proberly have DRM and other bloated stuff from movie companies.
#29 -V3n0m555- on 09 Dec 2006 - 08:26
I found something intresting... on this


Quote -
#194938 by Firon (ELITE) at 2006-12-08 10:14:21

To be precise, ludde didn't directly sell it to BitTorrent Inc. At the time beta 483 came out (and by extension 474 stable), ludde still owned all rights to the program. He sold his rights for a stake in a different company fairly recently, and that company then sold it to BitTorrent Inc (under which terms I do not know).
Hence, 483 is still "clean".

I'd also like to note that I don't work for BitTorrent Inc, nor did I gain anything from this. In fact, I'm not even sure I'm going to be an admin anymore (since I've apparently lost root access to the server)

from a bitmetv forum post.



Pooor ludde....

Last edited by -V3n0m555- on 09 Dec 2006 - 09:00
#30 icec on 09 Dec 2006 - 11:21
Ahh well, it was a great product for a while...
#31 Leo Natan on 09 Dec 2006 - 12:11
Another will rise! Just as great clients have fallen in the past and new have risen, a new one, clean from crap will rise again!
#32 Poom on 09 Dec 2006 - 13:19
O_O Oh no?? I love utorrent.... I just hope that this will not make its development go downhill...
#33 choisir on 09 Dec 2006 - 15:12
those bittorrent guys are seriously upping the suckage level of the interweb
#34 Googintosh on 09 Dec 2006 - 20:08
I wonder if this is will mark an end to development into obfuscation techniques to counter ISP's that throttle BT traffic. Not that it even works on ISP's with strict packet shaping parameters (like Rogers).
(1 reply) #35 [deXter] on 10 Dec 2006 - 13:15
Excerpts from the IRC chat with the uTorrent developer Ludde and BitTorrent's Bram Cohen:

-will uTorrent be ported to Linux?
(ludde) probably

-how many lines of code is it comprised of?
(ludde) ~50-60K

-will encryption be removed?
(ludde) no

-features most important to you
(Bram) low memory footprint, code size, cpu usage

-is there any thoughts to an osx client?
(Bram) we plan to produce an up to date osx client, but that's significant porting work

-are there any features that will be removed from uTorrent?
(Bram) we're leaving the uTorrent client mostly alone for now, on the grounds that people like it (further defined 'mostly' as in, not much of anything substantive will change)

-will uTorrent be replacing the original python client?
(Bram) we aren't announcing integration plan details right now

-Bram, are you talking with asus and other router makers for putting uTorent in there?
(Bram) we're talking to lots of people

-will uTorrent ever be open-sourced?
(Bram) not in the forseeable future, but we'll continue to maintain an open source reference implementation

-Bram, you said before that you're not a big fan of protocol header encryption... do you still stand behind this?
(Bram) it isn't much harder for an isp to recognize encrypted headers than unencrypted headers.

-will content be monitored?
(Bram) absolutly not

-does the uTorrent codebase compile on linux today (in your labs?)
(ludde) No

-ludde can't develop anything new for uTorrent?
(ludde) bittorrent inc will do the majority of the development work

-what IDE was uTorrent developed on?
(ludde) Microsoft Visual C++ 6.0 with a few routines written in visual cobol. uTorrent was written in C++ with some tiny chunks of assembly

-will uTorrent continue to be free?
(Bram) utorrent will continue to be available and continue to be free (as in, no cost, not open source)

-Utorrent uses a lot of Windows API's right? Won't that be a problem when porting to *nux/OSX
(ludde) Yes, the UI is tightly bound to Windows APis, however, the core backend is easier to port.
(Bram) the utorrent UI is windows native, so porting that part to osx or linux is a significant amount of work (but planned to be done at some point)


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Chat script courtesy JohnyD
#35.1 Un-Dead Soldier on 13 Dec 2006 - 01:38
Bah... I run utorrent via wine anyways!
#36 Valkyre on 11 Dec 2006 - 09:57
I somehow feel vindicated for never having got into the bittorrent scene all of a sudden.

I wonder why.
#37 Magallanes on 11 Dec 2006 - 19:14
Why they need to buy utorrent?. The code of utorrent is good but since bittorrent have the money, a group of programmers can reach the same result (or even better) without buy any rights. Utorrent is a impressive piece of free software but only average for a commercial application.

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