Microsoft is battling trend for frazzled office workers to give up on Outlook and switch to Gmail: it is promising 2GB+ mailboxes in Exchange 2007 rather than the piffling 50MB mailboxes most workplaces have now.
Speaking at the launch of Vista, Office and Exchange in Singapore, Microsoft Product Marketing Manager Martha DeAmicis said it had built clustered replication into Exchange so corporate IT admins wouldn't be worrying about backing up big mailboxes to tape.
However its killer feature appears to be its plans to make those gigs of mail available on Joe Officeworker's mobile phone.
News source: APC Magazine
Speaking at the launch of Vista, Office and Exchange in Singapore, Microsoft Product Marketing Manager Martha DeAmicis said it had built clustered replication into Exchange so corporate IT admins wouldn't be worrying about backing up big mailboxes to tape.
However its killer feature appears to be its plans to make those gigs of mail available on Joe Officeworker's mobile phone.
News source: APC Magazine
I think MS is getting too pre-occupied with global monopoly.
The point is you stick to what you do best. MS have long been (don't argue!
They took too long developing an 'online' presence in the market....something that Google took to with vigor.
MS shouldn't be jumping outside their comfort zone in order to attempt to battle a company that has an established dominance in the market place in online e-business.
I cannot see a day when Google produce GooOS
I think MS is getting too pre-occupied with global monopoly.
The point is you stick to what you do best. MS have long been (don't argue!
They took too long developing an 'online' presence in the market....something that Google took to with vigor.
MS shouldn't be jumping outside their comfort zone in order to attempt to battle a company that has an established dominance in the market place in online e-business.
I cannot see a day when Google produce GooOS
Um exchange is nothing new....so all microsoft is doing is increasing storage space and thats called coping google?
And they took too long to develop an online presence?? Hotmail is the worlds largest email providor, outlook is one of the most used email suites, messenger is one of the most popular IM networks, MSN is one of the worlds largest online "networks"
I think MS is getting too pre-occupied with global monopoly.
The point is you stick to what you do best. MS have long been (don't argue!
They took too long developing an 'online' presence in the market....something that Google took to with vigor.
MS shouldn't be jumping outside their comfort zone in order to attempt to battle a company that has an established dominance in the market place in online e-business.
I cannot see a day when Google produce GooOS
wow Wiggz, you need to learn more before talking... MS has sold Exchange for years! They had Exchange web access for years before GMail ever existed! so technically GMail copied MS if you look at those two apps only... and ontop of all that 50MB? We've had mailboxes that have had 2.6GB of mail in them in our exchange server, where is this 50MB limit coming from? Notice it says "most workplaces" those are limits set by admins! not microsoft! because we have exchange set to limit mailbox size to 3GB per user, mainly because we have 100 users and that is only 300GB of space... (exchange enterprise edition here, because we clustered it)... but this article is just a bunch of fud to make MS look like its copying google when its realy doing nothing, this is just an admin issue
I am an avid supporter of Microsoft. I do however think they stick their fingers in to too many things. They have become complacient and arrogant and the very thing they hated. IBM. Like the giant before them, they too will fall.
Yes the underlying tech (XmlHttpRequest) used by gmail was originally created by microsoft _only_ for Outlook Web Access in IE5 (other browsers copied XmlHttpRequest later).
Even today Outlook Web Access - which came out many years before gmail - is still better than Gmail, i use both. Its better in terms of both usability and features - i don't think anyone could argue about that.
It suprising that microsoft won't release it to the general public rather than keeping it chained to Exchange server.
*thinks of idiotic comment* THEY MUST BE COPYING GOOGLE! HOW DARE THEY!
Firstly I see hardly any links to them actually copying google here. Secondly why are you guys acting like this is a bad thing? I mean extra storage space is a GOOD thing. Yes, gmail probably is what is pushing this move forward, and it is another example of how competition is a good thing.
however i did patent a method of increasing a maximum quota limit beyond that of 40MB
M$ is in trouble now
Every one at my work has a gmail account in addition to our exchange based domain email. We using gmail more and more because of speed and storage and the way it tracks the replies and the chat feature. Since I work at a TV station, it's easier for our sales department to email out video production / commercial spots to clients before airing. Something that our Exchange server wasn't very happy doing.
Every one at my work has a gmail account in addition to our exchange based domain email. We using gmail more and more because of speed and storage and the way it tracks the replies and the chat feature. Since I work at a TV station, it's easier for our sales department to email out video production / commercial spots to clients before airing. Something that our Exchange server wasn't very happy doing.
you email out video? wow you really need to look into other ways of doing that... there are streaming servers for video for a reason... just set up a password protected account for your client, give them a list of all their content and let them stream it or download it from there on demand... through email is just pure idiocy... especially since every SMTP server you may go through all has different limits to file sizes... gmail to gmail may be ok, but outside of that who knows what you will get
but storage space isnt everything
There is nothing in Longhorn that is required to run 2 GB mailboxes on E2007, in fact you can do it today if you download the E2007 eval and install on W2003 SP1 machine.
The only significant thing that Longhorn will bring to Exchange is the ability to have separate nodes of the Exchange cluster on two different subnets. But this is really a Windows limitation at this time anyway. Exchange don't care. But with LH, you will not have to stretch a subnet between two datacenters for 2 different nodes if that is what your setup looks like today.
Microsoft would have to be quite delusional to think they were even competing with Gmail with Exchange 2007.
Or maybe just the story author is, coming to that conclusion.
Microsoft would have to be quite delusional to think they were even competing with Gmail with Exchange 2007.
Or maybe just the story author is, coming to that conclusion.
WLM is 2gb free
Don't get me wrong, I love Google, but I think people are far too generous with them. After all, I recall an eweek article from two and a half years ago espousing gmail's potential as an enterprise platform. Large mailbox sizes and a calendar does not a groupware package make. I, for one, am glad that Microsoft took the 64-bit plunge with Exchange 2007, but their competitor in the enterprise groupware market is not Google, but rather Lotus and its behemoth that is Domino. Furthermore, there are the other smaller companies such as Kerio and Zimbra vying for a piece of the groupware pie.
If companys are running their own mail servers and putting thier own hardware in then why should there be ANY limit on mailbox size other than the limit set by the Administrator?
Our exchange server in works let you have what the hell you want. If you've got 50mb its because your network administrator has stipulated such.
I mean, wait, here, let me "fight gmail" by increasing my exchange mailbox size RIGHT NOW!
Unless I have slept really badly during my Exchange Server training when I was in school, there is no theorical limit to a single mailbox size on an exchange server. The mail store limit is something like 16GiB for Exchange 2000 and 16TiB for Exchange Server 2003 (But they recommend you don't grow over 16GiB for performance reasons. Create other mail stores when that happens).
I think the GUI will perhaps lock you down for certain values. But nothing prevents you from using ADSIEDIT to set it up.
Now that we've got this out of the way, since I believe I am one of the few who actually read the article, the summary proposed here, while misleading, is actually partly true.
What Microsoft wants to do is not "Increase your mailbox size in exchange", which is an arbitrary value defined by corporate policies or your network administrator, but rather make it *practical* for the Administrator to set-up mailbox sizes of 2gb, such as clustered replication.
The gmail part only comes from the fact that most poeple at work places bypass the corporate policies and said arbitrary settings by forwarding their mail to gmail, because it has storage. This, in some places, can get you fired anyways.
Title should have been "Microsoft to enhance Exchange Server 2007 to accomodate larger mailboxes" or something of that effect.
The blackberry-esque search your mail from your PDA part is pretty nifty though.
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