Microsoft is set to release not only Windows Server 2008, but also Windows XP Service Pack 3 later this year, according to a recent press release on Microsoft PressPass. It has been suspected in the past that Windows XP SP2 would end up as the final service pack released for the operating system, but apparently these suspicions can now be laid to rest.
This information came in conjunction with the announcement that Windows XP SP3 as well as Windows Vista will gain support for interoperability between Microsoft's Network Address Protection (NAP) and Juniper Network's Unified Access Control (UAC) standards for network access control (NAC) deployments.
The feature set for Windows XP Service Pack 3 is however still unannounced.
News source: Microsoft PressPass
Link: Unified Access Control
Link: Network Access Protection
This information came in conjunction with the announcement that Windows XP SP3 as well as Windows Vista will gain support for interoperability between Microsoft's Network Address Protection (NAP) and Juniper Network's Unified Access Control (UAC) standards for network access control (NAC) deployments.
The feature set for Windows XP Service Pack 3 is however still unannounced.
News source: Microsoft PressPass Link: Unified Access Control Link: Network Access Protection
I doesnt matter to me too much because our domain is a windows 2003 domain and all of our shares are on the server so I dont do too much sharing between vista and xp. Its mostly between vista and 2003 and xp and 2003.
I only really do remote desktop from vista to xp.
If your going to say vista is really bad atleast say why its really bad.
You'll get flamed if you just say "Vista isn't a good OS" without giving a reason.
You'll also get flamed for having a negative opinion of Vista, as most people here are devout Microsoft fanboys that will defend until their death the latest and "greatest" products that MS releases, no matter how horrifically crappy they may be.
You'll also get flamed for having a negative opinion of Vista, as most people here are devout Microsoft fanboys that will defend until their death the latest and "greatest" products that MS releases, no matter how horrifically crappy they may be.
Mong
But of course it's so much better to be an anti-Microsoft troll that reflexively and mindlessly hates all things Microsoft, whether they deserve it or not, right?
Btw, to avoid reading about Juniper relationships and all that, here's a quote
I was actually surprised, because I thought the silence on SP3 and all talk of Vista was foreboding.
This might finally help against having to download something like 60 patches upon fresh installs and messing with slipstreamed copies. I hope IE7 is also included while they're at it. I don't really see why not, unless if they're afraid to cause incompatibilities. But at late 2007, I'd hope at least the major websites were catching on. It would also help a lot to further strengthen XP's security.
Oh come on; and how long has IE7 been available?
Oh come on; and how long has IE7 been available?
Custom application > some employee who wants to use IE7.
There is really no need to use IE7 except for personal preference. For corporate environments, there's not much need to use Vista either. As a matter of fact, it is a complete waste of resource to upgrade some types of offices to Vista right now. MS made IE7 and Vista flashy for home users and gamers, but didn't really add or improve much to seriously benefit business users.
In business, everything is going virtual anyway, so in a few years it's not going to matter which client OS you run.
I didn't think they were gonna bother with XP anymore.
I'll only be using my copy of XP in a VM on my MacBook so a small speed boost would be nice
they run exactly the same, only thing slowing his pc down was all the crap he installed + spyware
they run exactly the same, only thing slowing his pc down was all the crap he installed + spyware
I found SP2 update even via beta testing to make my system go faster than SP1a.
Now at full SP2 it's a lot faster than SP1a.
SP3 seems a little late, I get the feeling M$ are doing it quicker than usual because Vista has flopped.
they run exactly the same, only thing slowing his pc down was all the crap he installed + spyware
I found SP2 update even via beta testing to make my system go faster than SP1a.
Now at full SP2 it's a lot faster than SP1a.
SP3 seems a little late, I get the feeling M$ are doing it quicker than usual because Vista has flopped.
Yes, Vista is a complete flop. That's why it had a more successful launch than XP did, and that's why millions of copies have already been sold.
they run exactly the same, only thing slowing his pc down was all the crap he installed + spyware
I found SP2 update even via beta testing to make my system go faster than SP1a.
Now at full SP2 it's a lot faster than SP1a.
SP3 seems a little late, I get the feeling M$ are doing it quicker than usual because Vista has flopped.
Vista flopped? This is news to me
If you can live w/o this security feature, killing it and the index services made my machine just as fast as XP SP1 (using sp2) Disable DEP - http://www.neowin.net/forum/lofiversion/in...hp/t307102.html
Sorry, Windows XP fans. It looks like the “end of 2007″ date for XP Service Pack (SP) 3 that was in a Microsoft press release issued this week was mistake.
At the end of the (east coast) day on May 23, a Microsoft spokeswoman provided the following update:
“I just received additional information from the product manager responsible for SP3. While we’re still not talking specifics, he did point to the following link as an accurate timeline for our preliminary plans for SP3: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/lifecycle/servicepacks.mspx. Again, these are just preliminary and we will share more at a later date. Please do reference this link for current timing and disregard the release from InterOp, which is inaccurate.”
I could buy a $30 card reader and use Vista only but thats plan B.
http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=470
Shove that in your pipe and smoke it, Paul!
Wasn't it that lady with the 'inside ear' or whatever at Microsoft who said they wouldn't be doing SP3?
What's her name? I'd like to send her a letter.
Next in news... Vista is not the last Windows OS they will ever make :o
Everyone raise your hand if you can tell that these 2 didn't read the article.
They are not referring to User Account Control (which is part of windows)
They are talking about creating interoperability between MS's Network Address Protection & Juniper's Unified Access Control.
Just because it has the same initials means nothing.
That's like saying Digital Media Zone & De-Militarized Zone are the same thing
http://www.juniper.net/products_and_servic...access_control/
Juniper's unified access control solution offers endpoint and identity-based controls, and support both client-host and network-based enforcement of dynamically configured firewall and IP security (IPSec) policies
Something like what franzon would've been better. He even provided a useful link.
I can assure you that all of your pirated music and stolen software will work just fine under Windows Vista. So don't worry.
If someone is going to buy Vista anyway, they're still probably going to do it.
Everyone on here who's holding out has said they're waiting for Vista SP1 anyway, so if that comes around first or at the same time it probably won't be an issue.
IMPOSSIBLE!
IMPOSSIBLE!
Uh, what?
I thought that's what the date was, anyway.
That's her name... Mary Jo Foley.
She's the one that said SP3 wasn't coming at all
See if I buy her word again.
So you can't even trust Microsoft's press releases anymore...
Oh well... If that's true, we'll just have to wait. It seems it's at least on the table though, which was what I was even uncertain of before this.
LOL, I'd also have liked to see that from someone else than Mary Jo Foley though.
Isn't it highly possible that the release date has changed??
DLW
so its still set for 08.
I think the community needs to rethink their verdict. I think Vista does deliver, and we will begin to see that over the course of the next year or so.
I've told several people recently that I've upgraded to Vista and that it's running great and I haven't even had one problem with it. Each person has said 'So they've managed to fix it up?' And then I tell them that I haven't downloaded one update or fix yet. Just plain RTM Vista Ultimate. No problems to speak of.
It still seems to me that the majority of naysayers haven't yet tried Vista, or, y'know, spent more than a couple minutes messing with it. I really like it as an OS, and as far as I'm concerned, it has delivered.
I know I can integrate but the amount of stuff is really starting to slow down the installation time.
Post install patchers (autopatcher xp) also takes a very long time now.
I don't care if it has any "new" features at all, just make a clean base with all the cirtical / most of the recommended hotfixes.
And I can see MS holding off on XP sp3 to help boost Vista Sales.
Last edited by jstillion on 24 May 2007 - 19:45
Guess ill start posting suggestions,and reporting bugs in their forums
The post critical installs alone are getting annoying - 80+ MB then all of the service packs on top of the .NET Framework, etc.
Worth a look at the least.
No idea.
In my particular case I've found nothing but eye candy on Vista x86. I have my particular rants about how it behaves in low end systems, and I would not encourage everyone to run and buy a copy, but if your laptop/desktop comes with Vista, don't go a burn the MS HQ either.
However, I'm watching closely how Vista x64 evolves. That's what makes me subscribe the "Let's wait for SP1" trend.
If it's not grotesquely hindered till the point that it refuses to run The Gimp, Inkscape or OpenOffice, or hacked hardware drivers, which is what I basically run at home at the moment, it will probably be a good choice in it's own time
On top of that the built-in DRM hobbles all the high-end outputs (as well as hogging even more CPU) whenever you play anything that *might* be protected content. Horrible. Vista wont really be worthwhile until most likely the second service pack.
I'm sticking with XP, which is now a good operating systemm, so a SP3 for XP is great news to me - and my organisation.
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