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As if any serious gamer will use XP, especially for dx10 which will probably be slower if users try the dx10 wrapper.

By June 2008 you will be saying "as if any serious gamer will use xp...."

I remember a lot of people saying that about Windows XP when it came out.

Please, it will be a good two years minimum before Vista gets it's flaws ironed out, drivers improve and games that make any sort of real use out of DX10 appear; until then XP is faster and has better support.

Unless http://pc.ign.com/objects/694/694190.html comes out before that

Holy crap! An actual first-person shooter game?! I MUST have this! The concept alone is revolutionary!

Please. Nothing more than a glorified tech demo. Any gaming company with an iota of concern about their bottom line wouldn't be foolish enough to limit their game releases to DX10-only for years.

Now you're twisting the argument (and turning it into something it isn't).

The point was that there are games that will "utilise DX10" ... this does not mean the same as "restricted to DX10".

What Bugs oh oh wait you mean nvidia and ATI driver issues witch are not up to windows XP performance well that will be sooner and since that is a nvidia / ATI issue and not Microsoft i would say Vista is just fine. i run vista just fine on my system no freaking bugs and well gaming is just great and Evan in alot of my cases surpasses the same esperiance i had in XP. so dont Blame Microsoft for issue you are havening with your ATI or nvidia hardware. and oh XP mmmmm seems Microsoft is still ironing out XPs bugs and the only reason why that is well is umm let me thing Oh yea no Opterateing system is perfect. now this is nice little list of Directx 10 games ones in witch will be out this year or very early next year



# Alan Wake
# BioShock

# Crysis


# Flight Simulator X Patch
# Hellgate London

# ShadowRun

# Unreal Tournament 3



Now their is more but hey i think those titles alone specialy UT3 and Crysis and Bioshock and Alan wake and oh Hellgate london are good proof that it wont be 2 years before any Real Dx10 games are out, Crysis looks damn good as do the rest of those games . So maby you should think about gieving Vista 1 more try for more then 5 Minuets this time Maby this time try Weeks

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Please, it will be a good two years minimum before Vista gets it's flaws ironed out, drivers improve and games that make any sort of real use out of DX10 appear; until then XP is faster and has better support.[/quote]




What Bugs oh oh wait you mean nvidia and ATI driver issues witch are not up to windows XP performance well that will be sooner and since that is a nvidia / ATI issue and not Microsoft i would say Vista is just fine. i run vista just fine on my system no freaking bugs and well gaming is just great and Evan in alot of my cases surpasses the same esperiance i had in XP. so dont Blame Microsoft for issue you are havening with your ATI or nvidia hardware. and oh XP mmmmm seems Microsoft is still ironing out XPs bugs and the only reason why that is well is umm let me thing Oh yea no Opterateing system is perfect. now this is nice little list of Directx 10 games ones in witch will be out this year or very early next year



# Alan Wake
# BioShock

# Crysis


# Flight Simulator X Patch
# Hellgate London

# ShadowRun

# Unreal Tournament 3



Now their is more but hey i think those titles alone specialy UT3 and Crysis and Bioshock and Alan wake and oh Hellgate london are good proof that it wont be 2 years before any Real Dx10 games are out, Crysis looks damn good as do the rest of those games . So maby you should think about gieving Vista 1 more try for more then 5 Minuets this time Maby this time try Weeks[/quote]

Alan Wake? Isn't that supposed to be a Xbox game?
UT3? that's dX 9 as far as I know
Hellgate is dX9 as well.

Didn't I mention drivers? Yes...yes I did. Just because you may not be experiencing problems that does not mean the os is bug free and that other people aren't. As far as XP, the vast vast majority of patches are security related and the os is as close to bug free as one can get, certainly much more so than Vista.

Now, you're "DX10" games. The only game in that list is Crysis and even then it will be primarily used for better performance, though Crytek will be giving the DX10 path a couple extra effects that would normally run too slow with DX9. The rest of those games are DX9 or are only getting basic DX10 support through a patch which is far from spectacular. Just because a game adds support for DX10 does not mean it will benefit the player in any way, shape or form. Please go research the differences between the two and come back when you actually know what you're talking about.

OpenGL 2.1 with DX10 extensions. Vista not required.

ABSOLUTELY!

"A serious Gamer goes for a hardcore system like a alienware pc or a dell XPS"

Or saves a lot of money compared to an Alienware and builds an own with similar h/w...

That what I was thinking, what's the point of making DX10 exclusive to Vista then?

They'll be mature.

**** off xp users ?

well ok then Mr. i know everything lets see you take the 4 year or more plunge in re-writing most of windows XPs Frame work just so you can have Directx 10 for windows XP. cause that is how long it take you take microsoft to do something that is not meant to be. How many Damn times does anyone including Microsoft have to say it Directx 10 is Vista only Why, Directx 10 is built in and around Vistas new APis new graphics Drive model new API driver models. Far Far Far different from the Older **** XP is run on. So it is not Simple Task and that is why Microsoft is not doing it, Now you may have 3rd party people trying to Simulate minor Dx10 stuff using a Software Wrapper but be realistic ( Aint Gonna go Well )

They have to push the OS somehow.

ROFL..