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DjmUK   on 18 March 2008 - 20:46 · 136 comments & 66565 views

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Windows Vista Service Pack 1 (SP1) is an update to Windows Vista that addresses feedback from our customers. In addition to previously released updates, SP1 will contain changes focused on addressing specific reliability, performance, and compatibility issues; supporting new types of hardware; and adding support for several emerging standards. SP1 also will continue to make it easier for IT administrators to deploy and manage Windows Vista. Windows Vista Service Pack 1 Five Language Standalone version can be installed on systems with any of the following language versions: English (US), French, German, Japanese, or Spanish (Traditional).

Download: Service Pack 1 for Windows Vista [434.5 MB]
Download: Service Pack 1 for Windows Vista 64bit [726.5 MB]
View: Vista SP1 overview

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(3 replies) #1 leesmithg on 18 Mar 2008 - 20:51
64 bit users need this version. (725 MB)


News source: microsoft.com for 64bit
Download: Download it now! (64bit)


Thanks to flexbeta and especially, thexfile
#1.1 Redmak on 18 Mar 2008 - 20:59
Link added, Thanks
#1.2 BluDrgn on 19 Mar 2008 - 01:57
When you say that x64 users need this one what is different to the one that is available on Microsoft Update??
#1.3 Tikitiki on 19 Mar 2008 - 02:29
(BluDrgn said @ #1.2)
When you say that x64 users need this one what is different to the one that is available on Microsoft Update??


If your using Microsoft Update then it will automatically handle everything for you. His comment was only for those who want to download the standalone package
(7 replies) #2 Moonwolf on 18 Mar 2008 - 20:55
I know the download of service pack 1 of vista is free..but how much it cost to upgrade your system again to run service pack 1 now?
#2.1 caesar on 18 Mar 2008 - 20:57
I wonder what the hell dose this Service Pack files have in them, a different OS or something? Damn.. look at that file size...
#2.2 .Logan on 18 Mar 2008 - 21:00
(caesar said @ #2.1)
I wonder what the hell dose this Service Pack files have in them, a different OS or something? Damn.. look at that file size...

A smaller more appropriate download for single computers is available via Windows Update.
#2.3 Lant on 18 Mar 2008 - 21:03
(caesar said @ #2.1)
Damn.. look at that file size...


Well this package does contain the sp1 for 5 different lanuages, so expect it to be big.
#2.4 +TCLN Ryster on 18 Mar 2008 - 23:42
(caesar said @ #2.1)
I wonder what the hell dose this Service Pack files have in them, a different OS or something? Damn.. look at that file size...

You're not far from the truth. In addition to all the languages and updates for all the version, Vista SP1 includes and entirely new kernel that brings it into line with Windows Server 2008.
#2.5 scaramonga on 18 Mar 2008 - 23:48
(caesar said @ #2.1)
I wonder what the hell dose this Service Pack files have in them, a different OS or something? Damn.. look at that file size...


Just the usual.....more bloat!
#2.6 vetneufuse on 19 Mar 2008 - 00:26
(scaramonga said @ #2.5)
(caesar said @ #2.1)
I wonder what the hell dose this Service Pack files have in them, a different OS or something? Damn.. look at that file size...


Just the usual.....more bloat!


Just the usual people replying when they have no clue what they are talking about The actual service pack is 70MB for 32bit and 90MB for 64bit... these are combination packs with multiple languages in them.... if you guys are so concerned about the size get it from windows update... its much smaller and doesnt update driver packs or anything else that isn't vital to the system
#2.7 Esvandiary on 19 Mar 2008 - 01:04
(Moonwolf said @ #2)
I know the download of service pack 1 of vista is free..but how much it cost to upgrade your system again to run service pack 1 now?

... You do know that SP1 includes a smaller kernel, right?

Hell, I don't even like Vista and I'm still feeling I have to defend it against rubbish like this.
(7 replies) #3 TRC on 18 Mar 2008 - 21:02
Now will they finally let us have XP SP3, please? I'd like to get it before I have to be put in a nursing home, which is really sad since I was still young when SP2 came out.
#3.1 X'tyfe on 18 Mar 2008 - 21:16
(TRC said @ #3)
Now will they finally let us have XP SP3, please? I'd like to get it before I have to be put in a nursing home, which is really sad since I was still young when SP2 came out.


+1
#3.2 RuudJacobs.NET on 19 Mar 2008 - 08:36
indeed, since my 2 current machines both run XP, I really wanna have that SP3!!
#3.3 buletov on 19 Mar 2008 - 08:49
Why wait for the SP3 when you can already use the latest RyanVM Update Pack?
http://www.ryanvm.net/msfn/updatepack-sp2.html
#3.4 tiagosilva29 on 19 Mar 2008 - 09:16
It's a shame that thete won't be any x86-64 SP3...
#3.5 Skyfrog on 19 Mar 2008 - 11:37
(buletov said @ #3.3)
Why wait for the SP3 when you can already use the latest RyanVM Update Pack?
http://www.ryanvm.net/msfn/updatepack-sp2.html


The update packs don't add the new features SP3 has unfortunately, plus I'd rather slipstream the official service pack.

No service pack for XP64? Seems like they really hate that OS for some reason.
#3.6 ViperAFK on 19 Mar 2008 - 13:04
(Skyfrog said @ #3.5)
(buletov said @ #3.3)
Why wait for the SP3 when you can already use the latest RyanVM Update Pack?
http://www.ryanvm.net/msfn/updatepack-sp2.html


The update packs don't add the new features SP3 has unfortunately, plus I'd rather slipstream the official service pack.

No service pack for XP64? Seems like they really hate that OS for some reason.


That's because x64 is an epic failure.
#3.7 +Dakkaroth on 19 Mar 2008 - 14:07
(ViperAFK said @ #3.6)
That's because x64 is an epic failure.


Only because of the lack of drivers. Nothing's wrong with it otherwise.
(4 replies) #4 Beastage on 18 Mar 2008 - 21:04
any change in build number since the february SP1?
#4.1 TRC on 18 Mar 2008 - 21:06
No, it went RTM in February. That means they don't touch it any more, they just withheld it until they could try and track down all the problematic drivers and block them or try to get the manufacturers to get off their lazy rears and fix them.
#4.2 Jonathan Yaniv on 18 Mar 2008 - 21:08
(TRC said @ #4.1)
No, it went RTM in February. That means they don't touch it any more, they just withheld it until they could try and track down all the problematic drivers and block them or try to get the manufacturers to get off their lazy rears and fix them.



Did they pull it off Windows Update?
#4.3 TRC on 18 Mar 2008 - 21:12
I don't think it was ever put up to begin with, they just let MSDN subscribers have it or something like that. Anyway it leaked soon afterwards and you could download it from other places. From what I understand Windows Update will still not let you have it if you have any of the affected hardware and no updated drivers have been released to fix the problems.
#4.4 Beastage on 18 Mar 2008 - 21:29
(TRC said @ #4.1)
No, it went RTM in February. That means they don't touch it any more, they just withheld it until they could try and track down all the problematic drivers and block them or try to get the manufacturers to get off their lazy rears and fix them.


I'm reading SP1 notes, they were just updated there are some files with the build 6.0.6001.22107 , new updates might be not in the SP1 I installed (build 6001.18000)

WU says nothing for me
#5 Jonathan Yaniv on 18 Mar 2008 - 21:06
Yay SP1

*Waits for it to appear on WU*
(1 reply) #6 Jonathan Yaniv on 18 Mar 2008 - 21:07
** And waits

And waits
And waits


#6.1 +TCLN Ryster on 18 Mar 2008 - 23:43
Child
#7 tsupersonic on 18 Mar 2008 - 21:12
It's been on my Windows Updates since 12pm (EST)... It's up and running on my computer
#8 Nimec on 18 Mar 2008 - 21:14
Thanks for the link, Neowin!
(1 reply) #9 +Chrono951 on 18 Mar 2008 - 21:19
Not all people can see it on Windows Update immediately. If your computer is one that is affected by any of the problem drivers or a few other problems, SP1 will not appear on WU at this time.

Check here for some problems and possible solutions, including a list of the drivers that prevent you from seeing the update.
#9.1 GreyWolfSC on 19 Mar 2008 - 01:31
(Chrono951 said @ #9)
Not all people can see it on Windows Update immediately. If your computer is one that is affected by any of the problem drivers or a few other problems, SP1 will not appear on WU at this time.

Check here for some problems and possible solutions, including a list of the drivers that prevent you from seeing the update.


What a shock that Creative is on that short list.
(10 replies) #10 -Hiroshi- on 18 Mar 2008 - 21:23
Awesome update, system runs a lot better now! Less ram usage overall as well. Before I'd idle around 1.0GB of available ram, now I'm idling at 1.3GB.
#10.1 tsupersonic on 18 Mar 2008 - 21:25
You mean the other way around?
#10.2 Moonwolf on 18 Mar 2008 - 21:34
LOL....before he idle at 1.0GB after the service pack 1 he now idle at 1.3GB .....feedback What an AWESOME UPDATE...run a lot better now.

LOL

(-Hiroshi- said @ #10)
Awesome update, system runs a lot better now! Less ram usage overall as well. Before I'd idle around 1.0GB of available ram, now I'm idling at 1.3GB.
#10.3 TRC on 18 Mar 2008 - 21:37
When Vista uses RAM that's actually a good thing, it's by design. What, do you want your expensive memory sitting there empty, doing nothing?

Free memory is wasted memory.
#10.4 Typhon on 18 Mar 2008 - 21:54
(TRC said @ #10.3)
When Vista uses RAM that's actually a good thing, it's by design. What, do you want your expensive memory sitting there empty, doing nothing?

Free memory is wasted memory.



+1 I wish xp did that like pre load my most used programs.
#10.5 Tantawi on 18 Mar 2008 - 22:49
(Typhon said @ #10.4)
(TRC said @ #10.3)
When Vista uses RAM that's actually a good thing, it's by design. What, do you want your expensive memory sitting there empty, doing nothing?

Free memory is wasted memory.



+1 I wish xp did that like pre load my most used programs.


It does, and it's named Windows Vista
#10.6 James Riske on 18 Mar 2008 - 22:51
(Moonwolf said @ #10.2)
LOL....before he idle at 1.0GB after the service pack 1 he now idle at 1.3GB .....feedback What an AWESOME UPDATE...run a lot better now.

LOL


rofl!
#10.7 +Kirkburn on 18 Mar 2008 - 23:55
I'm confused ... did none of you actually read his comment?

"Before I'd idle around 1.0GB of available ram, now I'm idling at 1.3GB."

Fools.
#10.8 Tikitiki on 19 Mar 2008 - 03:04
(Kirkburn said @ #10.7)
I'm confused ... did none of you actually read his comment?

"Before I'd idle around 1.0GB of available ram, now I'm idling at 1.3GB."

Fools.


LMAO! Double Owned
#10.9 Jugalator on 19 Mar 2008 - 09:12
(TRC said @ #10.3)
When Vista uses RAM that's actually a good thing, it's by design. What, do you want your expensive memory sitting there empty, doing nothing?

Free memory is wasted memory.

That's oversimplifying it. This is only good if it's used for the right things, and can be released in time when it's needed.

Simply saying that "RAM usage is good" isn't at all necessarily right... For example if too many system services are actually allocating it for things you don't use your computer for. That will only hurt performance and you'd be better off to have it completely free for the time a resource demanding app would start needing it.
#10.10 Skyfrog on 19 Mar 2008 - 11:42
I disagree, Vista does a pretty good job of keeping track of what you use the most over time and as far as freeing it up for other programs I really doubt the time it takes is noticeable.
(3 replies) #11 DjmUK on 18 Mar 2008 - 21:37
I just noticed, this should be in the Software > Microsoft section. lol, I'll shut up now.

Since it RTM'd in February and as an MSDN subscriber, SP1 has been soooo stable in comparison to non-SP1.
#11.1 James Riske on 18 Mar 2008 - 22:53
(DjmUK said @ #11)
I just noticed, this should be in the Software > Microsoft section. lol, I'll shut up now.

Since it RTM'd in February and as an MSDN subscriber, SP1 has been soooo stable in comparison to non-SP1.


<gasp> Are you saying vista wasn't stable before the service pack? oh my....
#11.2 Tikitiki on 19 Mar 2008 - 03:05
(James Riske said @ #11.1)
(DjmUK said @ #11)
I just noticed, this should be in the Software > Microsoft section. lol, I'll shut up now.

Since it RTM'd in February and as an MSDN subscriber, SP1 has been soooo stable in comparison to non-SP1.


<gasp> Are you saying vista wasn't stable before the service pack? oh my....


<gasp> Oh my... drama queen alert!
#11.3 James Riske on 19 Mar 2008 - 21:20
(Tikitiki said @ #11.2)
(James Riske said @ #11.1)
(DjmUK said @ #11)
I just noticed, this should be in the Software > Microsoft section. lol, I'll shut up now.

Since it RTM'd in February and as an MSDN subscriber, SP1 has been soooo stable in comparison to non-SP1.


<gasp> Are you saying vista wasn't stable before the service pack? oh my....


<gasp> Oh my... drama queen alert!



M$ fanboy alert!
(1 reply) #12 ste on 18 Mar 2008 - 21:51
shouldnt this be stickied in the funky red colour?


ste
#12.1 Jonathan Yaniv on 18 Mar 2008 - 22:10
(ste said @ #12)
shouldnt this be stickied in the funky red colour?


ste


Yeah, ditty to that

Sticky it red!
#13 Glen on 18 Mar 2008 - 22:10
Installing it now. 66MB on Windows Update, so it's not nearly as bad as the full service pack download.
(1 reply) #14 SirEvan on 18 Mar 2008 - 22:24
sp1 for x64 version seriously has sped up my system It is much zippier, network transfers are much faster, overall huge improvements. Im not really complaining about before....but damn!
#14.1 Avi on 18 Mar 2008 - 22:36
Yeah, I feel exactly the same. My system never felt this smooth!
#15 HoriZon-UK on 18 Mar 2008 - 22:26
Not showing for me in the UK on WU?
#16 ksalter on 18 Mar 2008 - 22:35
I installed it on my x64, and despite what you may read on other sites like slashdot, my computer didn't spontaneously implode/explode and everything is dandy!
(4 replies) #17 Osiris on 18 Mar 2008 - 22:57
Can anyone confirm the WU file size, someone said 66MB for x64, surely that cannot be correct?

Does the SP1 update include all previous updates?
#17.1 Avi on 18 Mar 2008 - 23:24
(Osiris said @ #17)
Does the SP1 update include all previous updates?

Yes.
#17.2 +TCLN Ryster on 18 Mar 2008 - 23:47
(Osiris said @ #17)
Can anyone confirm the WU file size, someone said 66MB for x64, surely that cannot be correct?

Why wouldn't it be correct? Remember the full download (sometimes called network administrator download) contains updates for all languages, all skus and all features and contains full file updates.

Windows update only downloads the portions of the update that apply to your specific setup. Also Windows Update is far better suited for patch distribution and can make the file sizes smaller using something I think was called Delta patching where it only downloads the changes made to a file and not the whole file itself.
#17.3 Glen on 19 Mar 2008 - 00:15
(Osiris said @ #17)
Can anyone confirm the WU file size, someone said 66MB for x64, surely that cannot be correct?

Does the SP1 update include all previous updates?


Actually, that was me but it's not for the X64 update and I probably should have clarified. The actual size was 66.9 MB for the X86 SP1 update on WU, but I had all my patches up to date before SP1 was posted, so it may differ if you don't have all the updates installed to date.
#17.4 Osiris on 19 Mar 2008 - 00:19
Cheers for the update and clarification. I think I will just save myself some hassle at the expense of my bandwidth limits, and down the full x64 SP1 file rather than WU, since I have only just got the new system setup and no WU downloaded yet.
(1 reply) #18 TRC on 18 Mar 2008 - 22:58
Will we be able to order SP1 integrated discs from this page; I would imagine we will be but haven't found any word on when.

http://www.windowsmarketplace.com/content.aspx?ctId=404
#18.1 paulhaskew on 18 Mar 2008 - 23:06
(TRC said @ #1
Will we be able to order SP1 integrated discs from this page; I would imagine we will be but haven't found any word on when.

http://www.windowsmarketplace.com/content.aspx?ctId=404


You will be able to soon...
(3 replies) #19 Nimec on 18 Mar 2008 - 22:58
Heh, applied the update then played Wow for a bit. Upon exiting I was greeted with a nice BSOD. Never experienced a BSOD on this PC prior to today.

Hrm..

Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: BlueScreen
OS Version: 6.0.6001.2.1.0.768.3
#19.1 / -Razorfold on 18 Mar 2008 - 23:12
(Nimec said @ #19)
Heh, applied the update then played Wow for a bit. Upon exiting I was greeted with a nice BSOD. Never experienced a BSOD on this PC prior to today.

Hrm..

Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: BlueScreen
OS Version: 6.0.6001.2.1.0.768.3


Do you have the exact error code? Could just be a bad driver, or something went wrong. Can't really say unless we have the error code =)
#19.2 +TCLN Ryster on 18 Mar 2008 - 23:49
And did you submit an error report?, Microsoft has gotten alot better at telling you where the problem lies in the new error reporting system in Vista. I had a number of BSODs back in the early days of Vista, and the error reports submitted told me in no uncertain terms the problem was with the nVidia Graphics drivers.
#19.3 GreyWolfSC on 19 Mar 2008 - 01:20
(Nimec said @ #19)
Heh, applied the update then played Wow for a bit. Upon exiting I was greeted with a nice BSOD. Never experienced a BSOD on this PC prior to today.

Hrm..

Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: BlueScreen
OS Version: 6.0.6001.2.1.0.768.3


If you use a Symantec antivirus product it can cause blue screens with WoW.
#20 Harreh on 18 Mar 2008 - 22:59
Downloading now for when I get my new system soon .
(2 replies) #21 darklordofthesith on 18 Mar 2008 - 23:09
it dosent load on my notebook. it starts but dosent work. took the 32 bit version on the page
#21.1 Avi on 18 Mar 2008 - 23:22
Well, then try Windows Update... Maybe your download was corrupted or something.
Also, "it starts but doesn't work" doesn't really tell us anything. Specify exactly what happens.
You might wanna go to the forums and create a post there instead of posting info such as this in comments.
#21.2 bathisland on 19 Mar 2008 - 11:11
The same thing is happening to me on my Toshiba laptop. Downloaded the 32 bit version, click it, it ask for permission and then nothing....nadda......no error message....nothing. WTF
(3 replies) #22 sy64 on 18 Mar 2008 - 23:35
What do you reckon the chances of MS releasing an integrated oem disk? I've already got a serial number, just an integrated disk is all I'm after but I'm not an MS subscriber and I'm not too trusting of torrents.
#22.1 PGHammer on 18 Mar 2008 - 23:55
OEM DVDs integrated with SP1 will be available later this month.

I'll likely be picking up some three-packs of them for systems built during April and May.
#22.2 Litespeed on 19 Mar 2008 - 02:17
We all got integrated DVDs yesterday at Launchwave 2008 - Windows Vista Ultimate w/ SP1.
#22.3 eilegz on 19 Mar 2008 - 05:02
i got mine in a microsoft event of windows 2008 server launch here in panama
(1 reply) #23 darklordofthesith on 18 Mar 2008 - 23:42
It asks me for permission to run and i allow it but after that, it does nothing. also tried to install it without firewall or internet, no luck. i also used windows update and it said my pc was up to date. i used the link on top of the post to download from.
#23.1 bathisland on 19 Mar 2008 - 11:12
+1
#24 Citrusleak on 18 Mar 2008 - 23:45
about time!
(2 replies) #25 Titoist on 19 Mar 2008 - 00:14
49mb for SP1... Is it just me or is anyone else getting this?
#25.1 Tikitiki on 19 Mar 2008 - 03:09
Yep... thats right. Windows Update can streamline patches. Most people are used to the full download where on older versions of windows it would download the whole file (correct me if I'm wrong) and replace it. Vista just downloads what you need changed and applies that, which makes the download size MUCH smaller.
#25.2 Titoist on 19 Mar 2008 - 05:02
(Tikitiki said @ #25.1)
Yep... thats right. Windows Update can streamline patches. Most people are used to the full download where on older versions of windows it would download the whole file (correct me if I'm wrong) and replace it. Vista just downloads what you need changed and applies that, which makes the download size MUCH smaller.


Yes I know that, its just that everyone is getting around 66mb but mine is too low to be true.. so was just wondering.
#26 XDViPeR on 19 Mar 2008 - 00:52
I'm downloading it right now, 66MB for me, and it's downloading real slow. I guess a lot of hungry Vista users out there are updating their systems as well. Lets see what SP1 does for me. THanks for the news. !
#27 Markus-J on 19 Mar 2008 - 00:54
Updated without any worries, yet to see any benefits/disadvantages from it though...
#28 Doli on 19 Mar 2008 - 01:01
Ok my system is a bit speedy/responsive after the update. Big ups to Microsoft.
#29 Lord Zog on 19 Mar 2008 - 01:17
Titoist - Different sizes depending on your version of Vista and what it needs to D/L.. Mine was 56.1MB's for SP1.
(3 replies) #30 Neo Razgriz on 19 Mar 2008 - 01:27
That size for the 64-bit version is a bit chunky, isn't it?
#30.1 Citrusleak on 19 Mar 2008 - 01:43
Yeah, I made the mistake of downloading the 5 language one for 64 bit, and it's like 750MB. It's not too bad though, because since I was downloading it from Microsoft, it only took like 15 minutes.
#30.2 Neo Razgriz on 19 Mar 2008 - 01:51
(Citrusleak said @ #30.1)
Yeah, I made the mistake of downloading the 5 language one for 64 bit, and it's like 750MB. It's not too bad though, because since I was downloading it from Microsoft, it only took like 15 minutes.


You must be on a powerful connection like myself. Too bad I don't have that modern PC I want - Vista SP1 would do well by it.
#30.3 vetneufuse on 19 Mar 2008 - 02:01
(Neo Razgriz said @ #30)
That size for the 64-bit version is a bit chunky, isn't it?


under 100MB is chunky? If you don't need 5 languages don't download the 5 language installer! The actual installer is small for a service pack... its smaller then most of the recent OSX updates!....
#31 Wodin on 19 Mar 2008 - 02:31
I'm downloading SP1 for 32 bit right now through Windows Update, and the download size is 193.9MB. Thats all I'm downloading is the service pack, nothing else.
Edit: Apparently that included SP1 for office 2007 too. Although I only had 1 update available its now showing that I downloaded and installed SP1 for office at the same time. This is just if anyone cares.

Last edited by Wodin on 19 Mar 2008 - 03:00
(2 replies) #32 Gabe3 on 19 Mar 2008 - 02:38
700mb is not big. Common people we have 1tb drives now. quit your bitching
#32.1 Hak Foo on 19 Mar 2008 - 02:57
Certain things, I do find offensive when too large. Drivers primarily.

What on earth does it need 40Mb to drive a video card, network board, or scanner?
#32.2 Tikitiki on 19 Mar 2008 - 03:12
(Hak Foo said @ #32.1)
Certain things, I do find offensive when too large. Drivers primarily.

What on earth does it need 40Mb to drive a video card, network board, or scanner?


I have to agree. I am probably right in saying all of Neowin (The actual "code" that runs it) is probably under 10 MBs
(4 replies) #33 cJr. on 19 Mar 2008 - 03:05
I can't seem to notice a difference after this Service Pack update

It took about twice as long to load up, after I input my password once the update was installed.

Also Firefox took ages to start, even longer than it did without Service Pack 1.

I have yet to notice any improvements or positive effects though...

Am I missing something?


P.S. My download was through Windows Update for a 32-bit laptop and it was 69.04MB or something like that. Downloaded suprisingly quickly (Y).
#33.1 Tikitiki on 19 Mar 2008 - 03:13
My best guess is you have an old driver - try updating your drivers
#33.2 nX07 on 19 Mar 2008 - 05:07
When you install SP1 it wipes clear any user cache it has on you; like your frequent programs, operating habbits, etc. so it will seem slow for about a month or so until it learns your routine over again. Of course that may be even shorter/longer of a timespan depending on how much you use your PC.
#33.3 jtherrien on 19 Mar 2008 - 06:05
"so it will seem slow for about a month or so until it learns your routine over again"

A MONTH?? Try a day or two...
#33.4 Malechai on 19 Mar 2008 - 12:51
(jtherrien said @ #33.3)
"so it will seem slow for about a month or so until it learns your routine over again"

A MONTH?? Try a day or two...
took mine roughly a week or so
(5 replies) #34 +Xerxes on 19 Mar 2008 - 03:14
It's great and all SP1 is finally out. However, I'm not installing it anytime soon. Bash me all you want, but I'm not stupid enough to install SP1 when it has known issues with software I've got installed on my PC (and the vendors of those programs haven't been bothered to update thier software yet) when my software is updated to support SP1, then I'll update.
#34.1 Jaybonaut on 19 Mar 2008 - 03:20
Thanks for sharing..?
#34.2 +Xerxes on 19 Mar 2008 - 03:52
(Jaybonaut said @ #34.1)
Thanks for sharing..?

Yeah I know, my post is somewhat pointless...but I've had a hard day at work, I'm entitled to at lease one pointless post (well I guess that makes it 2 )
#34.3 +Kirkburn on 19 Mar 2008 - 05:08
(Xerxes said @ #34)
Bash me all you want, but I'm not stupid enough to install SP1 when it has known issues with software I've got installed on my PC (and the vendors of those programs haven't been bothered to update thier software yet) when my software is updated to support SP1, then I'll update.

Why would anyone bash you for perfectly rational thought processes?

What software, anyway? The drivers?
#34.4 devHead on 19 Mar 2008 - 05:47
but I'm not stupid enough to install SP1 when it has known issues with software


What software has known issues with this service pack? What do you have running on your computer that a service pack would render so useless that you consider it "stupid" to install it? I didn't know software companies had to update their software when Microsoft comes out with a service pack, but maybe I'm just one of those "stupid enough" ones.
#34.5 +Xerxes on 19 Mar 2008 - 07:14
(devHead said @ #34.4)
but I'm not stupid enough to install SP1 when it has known issues with software


What software has known issues with this service pack? What do you have running on your computer that a service pack would render so useless that you consider it "stupid" to install it? I didn't know software companies had to update their software when Microsoft comes out with a service pack, but maybe I'm just one of those "stupid enough" ones.

My Anti-virus for one is not compatible with SP1 (PC-Cillin) and it seems there is other incompatible software on my new machine too, as SP1 is already automatically blocked (MS did say SP1 won't even show up on WU if you have software/drivers known to cause issues with SP1..I forgot about that )

EDIT: PC-Cillin probably isn't the cause, I've found out the most likely reason why Windows Update has blocked SP1 on both my computers, it's the audio drivers (SigmaTel onboard and Audigy 4 on the old machine) until I update them, SP1 won't install...so looks like I can only install SP1 on the old computer if I remove the sound card (creative don't support the Audigy 4, stopped releasing drivers for it last year) so no SP1 for that and unless I can get new drivers for the new machine, no SP1 for that either.

Last edited by Xerxes on 19 Mar 2008 - 09:27
(4 replies) #35 CyberWolf on 19 Mar 2008 - 03:26
It doubled boot times, takes the desktop longer to draw out so I can use it, it does shutdown faster but so far I am less than impressed.

C2D E84000
4Gig Ram
Sata2 160gig HDD
8800GT

Server 08 as a workstation still runs circles around it in perceived speed.
#35.1 +Kirkburn on 19 Mar 2008 - 05:09
(CyberWolf said @ #35)
It doubled boot times, takes the desktop longer to draw out so I can use it, it does shutdown faster but so far I am less than impressed.

C2D E84000
4Gig Ram
Sata2 160gig HDD
8800GT

Server 08 as a workstation still runs circles around it in perceived speed.

Boot times could double due to fragmentation and due to the way SP1 resets the Windows caching stuff (I forget the name). Defrag and over a short period of time you should be back to normal.
#35.2 Izlude on 19 Mar 2008 - 05:46
does 08 have sidebar? just curious... :o
#35.3 Skyfrog on 19 Mar 2008 - 14:45
(Izlude said @ #35.2)
does 08 have sidebar? just curious... :o


No sidebar, no Media Center, Aero disabled, indexing service disabled, etc. Just a lean server OS. Of course you can enable a lot of the stuff that's turned off but that sort of defeats the whole purpose, and since Vista is now using the exact same kernel it really doesn't make much sense to use it as a workstation anyway.
#35.4 CyberWolf on 19 Mar 2008 - 21:53
(Skyfrog said @ #35.3)
(Izlude said @ #35.2)
does 08 have sidebar? just curious... :o


No sidebar, no Media Center, Aero disabled, indexing service disabled, etc. Just a lean server OS. Of course you can enable a lot of the stuff that's turned off but that sort of defeats the whole purpose, and since Vista is now using the exact same kernel it really doesn't make much sense to use it as a workstation anyway.


Actually, It does have aero, and you can add sidebar. Nero 7 and powerdvd 7 both have a media center and I have mild indexing on for start menu only, which is how I run my vista machine as well.

I can add sidebar if you like and I am happy to direct you to some images I have.

We are talking:
Server 08
All Vista Features Enabled
Athlon 3200+
2gig ram
Onboard Video

Vs

Vista Ultimate wSP1
C2D E8400 Wolfdale 3.0Ghz
4gig ram
8800gt

the server 08 machine is just generally faster all the way around except in gaming. On the Vista machine I installed server 08 as a test and it out performed vista in games as well. Higher FPS. Not by a lot but enough where im dual booting, vista for the wife, server 08 for me to game on.
#36 Gabe3 on 19 Mar 2008 - 03:49
I installed this service pack a few weeks ago when it went RTM. Its been working fine for me, not a single problem.
(2 replies) #37 Buzzbomb on 19 Mar 2008 - 04:01
so has anyone had any WGA issues yet? or is anyone even running a pirated copy?
#37.1 Jaybonaut on 19 Mar 2008 - 04:11
Shocked this hasn't come up before. Mine's legit but knowing PC users yeah I am shocked.
#37.2 rm20010 on 19 Mar 2008 - 19:37
Censorship at work.
#38 msmcougar on 19 Mar 2008 - 04:46
Worked great for me. The whole process took 55 minutes for me on a T8300 C2D ThinkPad T61 running Vista Business 64-bit.

No problems encountered so far, and as a nice find, my WEI score for Gaming Graphics increased from 4.7 to 4.8 for the NVIDIA Quadro 140M video card.

No problems here... I'll try it on my 32-bit Vista Business desktop and see how that goes.
#39 devHead on 19 Mar 2008 - 05:43
I installed it last night and it was back up in running in about 40 minutes (AMD Athlon64 3000+ w/ 2 GB). Boot time for me seems to be the same. And it's nice to be able to select the drives to defragment! (Although, I got used to using the command prompt). Otherwise, it does seem that copying and moving files is a bit snappier and the progress indicator is more accurate also. Other things I guess I'll just have to wait and see what improvements offer.
(3 replies) #40 JuanManuel on 19 Mar 2008 - 06:12
It takes over 2 hours to install service pack in my computer.

In my About windows menu don't show Service Pack 1 for anywhere.
#40.1 ]SK[ on 19 Mar 2008 - 07:03
Does in mine. Does it show in Add/Remove?
#40.2 JuanManuel on 20 Mar 2008 - 08:05
SK[ said,#40.1]Does in mine. Does it show in Add/Remove?


No , in Add / More there are the previous updates to SP1 installed by windows update , but not the SP1 update.
#40.3 JuanManuel on 20 Mar 2008 - 09:55
(JuanManuel said @ #40.2)
SK[ said,#40.1]Does in mine. Does it show in Add/Remove?


No , in Add / More there are the previous updates to SP1 installed by windows update , but not the SP1 update.


Reinstalled SP1 , now it shows Service Pack 1 in About menu.
#41 KevinN206 on 19 Mar 2008 - 06:16
Does anyone have the official (from links above) of the MD5 hash for the 32bit for the five languages? And 64bit? I downloaded the so-called "official" some long time ago, but I heard this should be the same.
#42 richstad on 19 Mar 2008 - 06:56
For those people who are experiencing a slower system after installing Vista SP1 - the upgrade resets the prefetch cache, so give it a couple of days for Vista to work out what to load in cache and then it (should) be better than than before...

Also, the USN journal will be scattered across your primary drive - you can delete it using "fsutil usn deletejournal /d c:" (use without the quotes) where c: is your primary drive, and it will recreate itself contiguously. This command should be done at a DOS prompt with admin privlieges.

Use at your own risk...

Last edited by richstad on 19 Mar 2008 - 07:07
(1 reply) #43 Neo Razgriz on 19 Mar 2008 - 07:40
Could this possibly be integrated into Vista via nLite? It would definetly save time! And if used on a clean-install, the prefetch cache would be unaffected too.
#43.1 kl33per on 19 Mar 2008 - 11:20
SP1 can be integrated, though not easily and not with nLite (at this stage). This has to do with the updated servicing stack in Vista SP1.
(1 reply) #44 SIG on 19 Mar 2008 - 07:55
Is there a download just for the English version (without using windows update)?
#44.1 JamesWeb on 19 Mar 2008 - 10:13
Absolutely not.
(1 reply) #45 ecotrojan on 19 Mar 2008 - 11:04
May need to remove Server2008 now running as workstation ;-P


http://technet2.microsoft.com/WindowsVista...3.mspx?mfr=true




Windows Vista Alignment with Windows Server 2008
Windows Vista is aligned with Windows Server 2008, meaning that many files are common to both products. A result of this design is that there are cases where a common binary is modified to enable a server scenario that has limited or no effect on Windows Vista SP1 capabilities. Here are few examples:



• File Sharing: The file sharing subsystem on Windows Vista only allows 10 concurrent inbound connections. Windows Server 2008 must scale to support thousands of concurrent connections. During the testing and customer feedback phase of Windows Server 2008 development, the file sharing subsystems are tuned and refined to optimize the file sharing stack for performance, scalability and reliability. This level of tuning and refinement are not typically applicable on a 10-connection limit client, but are critical to a file server role. Changes like this are done primarily for the server scenarios, although these changes may also benefit Windows Vista SP1.

• IIS 7: IIS was included in some Windows Vista SKUs to enable web-based developers to write and test their applications. IIS in Windows Server 2008 is a significant server role which requires Internet-level scalability and performance requirements. The IIS7 components have gone through significant performance and reliability enhancements since Windows Vista originally shipped, in order to be a large-scale server component. These changes do not affect most Windows Vista users who do not even have the IIS7 components installed, however because Windows Vista and Windows Server are aligned, these changes are included in Windows Vista SP1.

• Concurrent User Support: Key subsystems such as the Windows Logon process and the core kernel need only support user-switching scenarios on Windows Vista. However, on Windows Server 2008, where a Terminal Server may have thousands of users logged in simultaneously, these subsystems must be tuned for maximum performance and reliability. Changes like this are done primarily for the server scenarios, although they may also benefit Windows Vista SP1.

#45.1 CyberWolf on 19 Mar 2008 - 22:17
From what you have posted, not remove Server08, Install Server 08 as MS said...

these subsystems must be tuned for maximum performance and reliability


Some how I dont think they are quite as aligned as MS thinks they are. Server 08 is still faster even with all the vista style features turned on.
(1 reply) #46 chisss on 19 Mar 2008 - 13:35
Honestly I would've expected it to be larger than 70MB... There are just too many things that are wrong with the non-SP1 build that I think 70MB ain't gonna fix it...

But I'm downloading it and will give it a try
#46.1 Xenomorph on 19 Mar 2008 - 14:06
(chisss said @ #46)
Honestly I would've expected it to be larger than 70MB... There are just too many things that are wrong with the non-SP1 build that I think 70MB ain't gonna fix it...

But I'm downloading it and will give it a try


That is probably ~70 megs for those who have been keeping the rest of Windows Vista up to date with the 100 or so updates that have come out since release.

The full 400-700 meg service pack is able to update fresh installs of Vista.

(1 reply) #47 LipSmacker on 19 Mar 2008 - 13:57
Do you need the KBxxx371 hotfix installed before you can download this? It still refuses to install on my laptop.
#47.1 +majortom1981 on 19 Mar 2008 - 18:46
Make sure your sound card drivers are up to date. realtek and sigmatell older drivers will not let sp1 install.

Realtek AC'97 • For x86-based computers: Alcxwdm.sys - version 6.0.1.6242 or earlier
• For x64-based computers: Alcwdm64.sys - version 6.0.1.6242 or earlier
SigmaTel • For x86-based computers: Sthda.sys - version 5.10.5762.0 or earlier
• For x64-based computers: Sthda64.sys - version 5.10.5762.0 or earlier
SigmaTel • For x86-based computers: Stwrt.sys - version 6.10.5511.0 or earlier
• For x64-based computers: Stwrt64.sys - version 6.10.5511.0 or earlier
Creative Audigy • For x86-based and x64-based computers: Ctaud2k.sys - version 6.0.1.1242 or earlier
• For x86-based computers: P17.sys – all versions (This was originally a Windows XP-based driver.)
Conexant HD Audio • For x86-based computers: Chdart.sys - version 4.32.0.0 or earlier
• For x64-based computers: Chdart64.sys - version 4.32.0.0 or earlier
Biometric (Fingerprint) Sensors• AuthenTec Fingerprint Sensor with the Atswpdrv.sys driver file – version 7.7.1.7 or earlier
• UPEK Fingerprint Sensor with the Tcusb.sys driver file – version 1.9.2.99 or earlier
Display drivers

Intel Display • For x86-based computers: Igdkmd32.sys – versions between and including driver 7.14.10.1322 and 7.14.10.1403
• For x64-based computers: Igdkmd64.sys – versions between and including driver 7.14.10.1322 and 7.14.10.1403
Other drivers

Texas Instruments Smart Card Controller with the GTIPCI21.sys driver file – version 1.0.1.19 or earlier

Sierra Wireless AirCard 580 with the Watcher.exe application – version 3.4.0.9 or earlier (This application is located in the AirCard 580 Program Files folder.)

Symantec software driver for Symantec Endpoint Protection and for Symantec Network Access Control clients • For x86-based computers: Wgx.sys – versions 11.0.1000.1091 or earlier
• For x64-based computers: Wgx64.sys – versions 11.0.1000.1091 or earlier


All those are the drivers that need to be updated if you have them on your system.
#48 Orlando Rays on 19 Mar 2008 - 14:03
It took about an hour for me to install it fully (Dell XPS 420, Ultimate 32-bit, 3GB RAM, C2Q Q6600). I haven't had a chance to really test it out yet. That'll come tonight.

Also tonight I'm installing it on my Dell Inspiron 9300 laptop (Pentium M 730, 2GB RAM, Mobility Radeon X300), which has Vista Home Premium 32-bit and runs it quite well even with Aero.

EDIT: It's working just fine on my Inspiron 9300. No changes really.

Last edited by Orlando Rays on 19 Mar 2008 - 21:02
#49 SharpGreen on 19 Mar 2008 - 15:02
I installed it back in Feb. when it RTM'ed, and it took like 4 or 5 hours to install.
(1 reply) #50 JonathanMarston on 19 Mar 2008 - 17:14
Nuts...the Authentec finger print reader driver is keeping me from installing SP1 on my work notebook (HP 8710w), and I can't find an updated driver. No wonder SP1 failed to boot when I tried installing it last month...

Does anyone know if I can uninstall the driver, install SP1, and then reinstall the driver?
#50.1 briangw on 19 Mar 2008 - 19:47
(JonathanMarston said @ #50)
Nuts...the Authentec finger print reader driver is keeping me from installing SP1 on my work notebook (HP 8710w), and I can't find an updated driver. No wonder SP1 failed to boot when I tried installing it last month...

Does anyone know if I can uninstall the driver, install SP1, and then reinstall the driver?


No idea. It worked fine on my HP 9700t with the same hardware. Try it and see?
#51 guruparan on 19 Mar 2008 - 19:48
Wow...my file copy progress is great in SP1... :-D

I found my boot somewhat same, but shutdown was really fast..
I downloaded the SP1 (x86 ~435MB)...
Installed on 1 laptop & my PC...everything including netgear wifi, Printer, Photoshop 7 ;-) also worked fine..
Will install in my Vaio this saturday..

Installation took almost 50 mins for both my systems.. anyway great to have a new kernel (written for server 200!!
#52 wrack on 20 Mar 2008 - 01:15
Yeah it showed up in WU yesterday for me (Melbourne, AUS) But I downloaded the full file anyways since I got 4 machines to take care so no point downloading it individually from WU.

I haven't had a chance to try the file copy but shutdown was freakin fast.
#53 applelinuxwindows on 20 Mar 2008 - 13:28
Build number?

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