15 years in the making, Wine 1.0 is in sight

For far longer than any of its developers would care to recall, Wine, the best program to use in Linux to run Windows applications, has been in development. Now, at long last, Wine 1.0 is scheduled to be released. To be exact, Wine (Wine is not an emulator) 1.0 should appear June 6, on the project's 15th birthday. While at this point there are 1,229 Windows applications that install and run out of the box, only four Microsoft applications (Photoshop CS2, PowerPoint Viewer 97 and 2003, and Word Viewer 97 and 2003, and Excel Viewer 97 and 2003) are being considered as critical for the 1.0 release. The reason for this, the Wine developers explain in the Wine 1.0 release plan, is that "expanding that list is that each new app adds a huge amount of testing to each release."

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Note: This has been a great addition that has allowed me to continue to use my Windows programs that I liked.

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Unless it has FULL DirectX compatibility (9 at least) then it is not eligible for 1.0 release... Granted Wine isn't a graphic API, but DX compat is an intrinsic requirement for a 1.0 release of ANYTHING claiming to be a full version of a windows app install importer.

People MAY bleat on about how it's only requirement is that it runs APPS (not necessarily graphics apps).. but considering the fact that if you are going to run linux anyways, most of the windows application are done better in open source programs already available.. therefore the only REAL use a program like this must necessitate is for the interpretation of graphics instructions.

It's not 1.0 until it is FULLY COMPATIBLE with DX9.

They seem to incrementing to 1.0 rather than having 1.0 be a real big release.

DirectX is unfortunately been rather hard for them to do, but have been getting better.

Great, now all those people that choose to run one OS can run programs designed for Windows.

You know, instead of just running Windows.

(Xenomorph said @ #10)
Great, now all those people that choose to run one OS can run programs designed for Windows.

You know, instead of just running Windows.

It's not Windows that people want, it's the apps.

(toadeater said @ #10.1)
It's not Windows that people want, it's the apps.

Exactly. Now, if more software authors realize this they'd start making more native Linux versions.

(Foub said @ #10.2)

Exactly. Now, if more software authors realize this they'd start making more native Linux versions.

I think they'd all prefer to get paid, feed their families, and pay their rent instead. Ahem.

(excalpius said @ #10.3)

I think they'd all prefer to get paid, feed their families, and pay their rent instead. Ahem.

Programming for linux doesn't mean NOT get paid. Actually I live pretty well after porting my app to linux

It's unrealistic. Every new release, Wine has to mold to the new program. It's too bad they can't make it work right. (By the way, don't bash me and say "Well they're doing the best they can", because I know that, I'm just saying it's too bad).

(Doli said @ #6)
15 years to make to version 1.0? damn.
I cant wait until version 2.0 in 2023

well you have to remember, computers have only been mainstream for about 15 years
and linux for even less, so id say its about right

(X'tyfe said @ #6.1)
well you have to remember, computers have only been mainstream for about 15 years
and linux for even less, so id say its about right

Make that around 30 years for home computers. Everyone and his dog put out a computer back in the late 70's and the 80's. So what if they were 8 bits, they were still computers.

(Foub said @ #6.2)

Make that around 30 years for home computers. Everyone and his dog put out a computer back in the late 70's and the 80's. So what if they were 8 bits, they were still computers.

I might have not been around in the 70's... but most people really didn't start getting into the computers until the90's when 3.1.x/95 came out.

(shockz said @ #6.3)
I might have not been around in the 70's... but most people really didn't start getting into the computers until the90's when 3.1.x/95 came out.

Tell that to Jobs and Wozniak..... Believe me, computers were quite popular back then before Windows, and even PCs, came out...... Long before.

(Foub said @ #6.4)

Tell that to Jobs and Wozniak..... Believe me, computers were quite popular back then before Windows, and even PCs, came out...... Long before. :rolleyes:

In the consumer home electronic market??? Doubt it.

It was like having the only TV on the street when I was a kid... where everyone would come and try it... except instead of a TV it was a computer.

(shockz said @ #6.5)
In the consumer home electronic market??? Doubt it.

Ever heard of PONG? There were cheap consumer products available all over the place. Guess what? We even had electricity and indoor plumbing back then as well.

It was like having the only TV on the street when I was a kid... where everyone would come and try it... except instead of a TV it was a computer.

You don't have a very good memory.

Here is a reminder;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_personal_computers

(shockz said @ #6.5)
It was like having the only TV on the street when I was a kid... where everyone would come and try it... except instead of a TV it was a computer.

Me too. When I moved in 2000 I was in one of only like 4 families in school (out of like 90 families) to have E-mail, and by far the first to use a computer (1993), I had to type stuff up for my classmates since I was 11.

(Angel Blue01 said @ #6.7)
Me too. When I moved in 2000 I was in one of only like 4 families in school (out of like 90 families) to have E-mail, and by far the first to use a computer (1993), I had to type stuff up for my classmates since I was 11.

How many areas are still like that?

Back in the mid 80's I was a member of a Commodore Users group that met at one of the local schools (The computer lab there had Commodore 64es.) Each meeting was filled with dozens of members. Our town even had four or five BBSes as well.

You're making it sound like people only had access to computers once the PC and Windows came out. That is far from being true. The market had been saturated with many different brands of home computers back in the late 70's and 80's. Apple had been the #1 computer during that time and also the most cloned. I had six systems before I even got a PC (XT) and DOS.

As I had said, they may have only been 8 bits, but they were still computers. The computer that took the astronauts to the Moon was no more powerful than a Commodore 64.

(shockz said @ #6.5)

In the consumer home electronic market??? Doubt it.

It was like having the only TV on the street when I was a kid... where everyone would come and try it... except instead of a TV it was a computer.

IBM PCjr came out in what 1983? I had it since I was a kid, it was the first real consumer PC... so they've been at the consumer levels for at least 25 years...

You guys were very lucky, in my neighborhood practically no one could afford a PC until they could buy computer+keyboard and mouse+monitor+printer for at most $1000. Even in grade school (poor Catholic school) all we had were a bunch of Apple IIes until 2000. Families still buy only under $1000 computers there today, and the school got a bunch of donated XP machines in 2003 .

Of course, for people who could afford them, they have been around since IBM's first PC in 1980.

Still too late to stop me from using Mac OS X, I'm afraid. But heck, I'm happy to hear they've been improving Linux considerably over the past few years.

You are forgetting that OSX benefits from Wine too. You can run Wine on OSX also, so you can run windows apps without needing to reboot to Windows via bootcamp or running in emulations via Parallels/VMWare.

well done

this is a major accomplishment for the linux community
and will help projects like ReactOS beat the **** outa windows in the future

(ghostwind said @ #1.1)
I didn't realize CS2 is a MS app

Yeah, if the software is like the redaction then Linux community are in serious troubles hahaha