Adobe giving free Android phones to its employees

Responding to last week’s Steve Jobs’ public letter calling for an end to Flash, CNET reports that Adobe will be distributing free Android phones to its employees.

Though it is still in testing, Flash 10.1 for Android is well on its way to shipping near June with Android 2.2. Adobe is planning to demonstrate and release a public preview of the software at this month’s Google I/O conference

While Microsoft joined Apple in proclaiming HTML5 and H.264 “the future of the web”, Adobe is continuing to promote Flash for both desktop and mobile devices. To ensure the experience is as seamless and bug-free as possible, they will be providing free Android phones with Flash Player pre-installed to its employees. The concept is described as “eating one’s own dogfood”

It’s not yet clear whether they will be giving the phones to all of their 8,600 employees or just their developers. The devices will be “various HTC phones and the Nexus One”. 

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Wow talk about complete display of immaturity.......Adobe is like a whiny little bitch always nagging the heck out of you and when you do something it doesn't like it bitches, complains and screams some more. Face it Adobe, your Flash business is threatened and I know you don't like it but you can kiss the hairiest part of my arse! When it comes to our security you clearly couldn't give a rat's behind or else it wouldn't take you 2 months to release a fix for a major security flaw. I am sorry but you don't get to try and protect your business here.....Give us something other than pure garbage and we'll respect you again.

If flash causes your machine to crash, it's not Flash's fault. It's the fault of your OS for allowing a program in user space to bring the system down.

I should also point out that you're misquoting Microsoft here. H.264 is what they're supporting for the <video> tag in html5, but they are in no way dropping support for Flash (or any other ActiveX component, for that matter) in IE9. Please get it right.

I don't understand why some people here are saying flash sucks. I have no problems with it at all. And saying HTML5 is the way to go, well, maybe it is but at the moment flash, in my book, is the way to go.

I don't get it either. Flash has some bugs, yeah, nothing serious though. The problem is some flash developers (esp. those advitisers) writes lousy code. Now who said they can't write the same slow&****ty code for HTML5/JS ? by then i guess people will hate HTML5 and embrase HTML6.....

It's the people who use the technology that create problems, not the technology itself.

Edited by bestbuy, May 2 2010, 3:04pm :

I just found it so funny when Adobe's CEO called flash an open standard. This is just childish.

Apple is against Flash or other closed standards when they dont belong to them. I'm sure that if Flash belonged to Apple they'd be shoving it down every single iPhone and iPad owner's throats too.

Yeah, it's a good shot of the phone, makes it look really good. I'm still not sold on the design though.

Love my X10. Wish someone would root the ****** already though!

The end of Flash is coming whether Adobe like it or not, Apple have proven you don't need it (look how well the iPhone/iPad are doing without it). Adobe needs to stop acting like a child and start embracing HTML5. That is my 2 cents, take with a grain of salt.

Xerxes said,
The end of Flash is coming whether Adobe like it or not, Apple have proven you don't need it (look how well the iPhone/iPad are doing without it). Adobe needs to stop acting like a child and start embracing HTML5. That is my 2 cents, take with a grain of salt.
I totally agree with you, HTML5 is the future and Flash is... well, the devil, but Adobe is the victim here. They're not acting like children.

Simon said,
I totally agree with you, HTML5 is the future and Flash is... well, the devil, but Adobe is the victim here. They're not acting like children.

For me I have nothing against Apple's pro-HTML5 stance but at the end of the day if I have bought a computer or some device it is up to me to decide what I load and don't onto that given device - not Apple. That is the problem I have with Apple and nothing to do with their pro-HTML5 position.

I just hope that the pro-HTML5 position fails not because I want it to fail but for no other reason that it would force Apple to open up their device to applications and frameworks, and being able to load software onto the device without having to go through the AppStore.

rawr_boy81 said,

For me I have nothing against Apple's pro-HTML5 stance but at the end of the day if I have bought a computer or some device it is up to me to decide what I load and don't onto that given device - not Apple. That is the problem I have with Apple and nothing to do with their pro-HTML5 position.

I just hope that the pro-HTML5 position fails not because I want it to fail but for no other reason that it would force Apple to open up their device to applications and frameworks, and being able to load software onto the device without having to go through the AppStore.

But the two have nothing related! They could always start using a protocol that websites could use to download apps to the phone. But as far as HTML5 goes, if it fails, the AppStore by then will have grown in popularity and the apps would reach new numbers, they have nothing in common. HTML5 is going to help the web recover. If everybody works together, HTML5 can be much more than javascript and fancy code, it can be an advanced programming language that Flash can be translated into so everybody wins. If this happens, HTML5 code will help the web a lot on the iPhone, iPad, and the computers, etc...


As far as opening applications and frameworks, no no no... This isn't Android, move to Android if you want that. When Windows Phone 7 is released, it will use Silverlight or XNA, and when it does support Flash I highly doubt apps will be allowed with that code. I completely agree with keeping apps high-quality using the APIs that the OS was designed to use and not some garbage APIs that follow APIs that follow APIs, etc.


We are heading into an era where the Internet itself is an application. The old static HTML and the programming languages like PHP and ASP.NET are going to come to an end. HTML5 will be like a container, an advanced container for everything to come together. It will be a great standard and will lead to much more efficient browsers, the capabilities are endless. Games, video, live feeds, etc, all running under pure HTML5 code, accessible to all browsers that support the standard completely.

Edited by Electric Jolt, May 2 2010, 4:04am :

Simon said,
I totally agree with you, HTML5 is the future and Flash is... well, the devil, but Adobe is the victim here. They're not acting like children.
But can HTML 5 be used for games?!?!

Xerxes said,
The end of Flash is coming whether Adobe like it or not, Apple have proven you don't need it (look how well the iPhone/iPad are doing without it). Adobe needs to stop acting like a child and start embracing HTML5. That is my 2 cents, take with a grain of salt.

I agree. One may disagree on whether Flash is needed or not *today*, but as for the long run, I think Adobe needs to embrace HTML 5. I wouldn't be surprised if they did either. They may just want to wait for this dust to settle down to not look like Apple's and Microsoft's b*tch.

Twisp said,

Yes.

Well then I'd assume when HTML5 is widely adopted, it will be abused just like Flash is now (and buggy HTML5/js code will run 2X slower than Flash according to neowin's post on performance comparison, gotta love that).

Edited by bestbuy, May 2 2010, 3:32pm :

rawr_boy81 said,
I just hope that the pro-HTML5 position fails not because I want it to fail but for no other reason that it would force Apple to open up their device to applications and frameworks, and being able to load software onto the device without having to go through the AppStore.
Why would it force them to open up the device? If their religious stance against Adobe in favor of HTML 5 back fired all they would have to do is add Flash support to the device. I don't see why they would have to consider opening the device up to consumers any more than that.

And yes, if Apple was to change their mind Adobe would be putting resources into their products in a heartbeat. That said, I fail to see how their stance can fail...it's been three years already and if anything more and more sites are moving to HTML 5 so in Apple's eyes perhaps they have already "won".

Smigit said,
Why would it force them to open up the device? If their religious stance against Adobe in favor of HTML 5 back fired all they would have to do is add Flash support to the device. I don't see why they would have to consider opening the device up to consumers any more than that.

And yes, if Apple was to change their mind Adobe would be putting resources into their products in a heartbeat. That said, I fail to see how their stance can fail...it's been three years already and if anything more and more sites are moving to HTML 5 so in Apple's eyes perhaps they have already "won".

Actually no, because opening up to Flash allows Flash applications to be downloaded and run without having to go through the AppStore - that is what Apple fears; that their monopsony will become undermined.

rawr_boy81 said,

Actually no, because opening up to Flash allows Flash applications to be downloaded and run without having to go through the AppStore - that is what Apple fears; that their monopsony will become undermined.

Having flash isn't the same as "opening up the device" IMHO. That'd be if they allowed you to do things such as natively install apps to the handset without needing to go through the iTunes store.

You can have relatively closed devices that still support flash. So yes, they could run some apps but they certainly don't need to open up all their frameworks.

I'd go for a free Nexus one right now. But really this whole Steve Jobs vs. Adobe sh- is getting really dumb.