Aliens vs. Predator "banned" in Australia

As reported by Gamespot, Aliens vs. Predator, Sega's upcoming first-person shooter has been refused classification by the Australian government on the grounds that the game exceeds the maximum rating of MA15+. When a title has been refused classification, it cannot be made commercially available in the country, in an essence banning the game.

The publisher has issued the following statement in response to government's decision: "SegaAustralia can today confirm that the initial submission of Aliens vs Predator has been refused classification by the Classification Operations Board of Australia. We will continue to investigate all options available to us, including the possibility of appeal."

The game has been refused classification for the following reasons:

"The game contains first-person perspective, close-up depictions of human characters being subjected to various types of violence, including explicit decapitation and dismemberment as well as locational damage such as stabbing through the chest, mouth, throat, or eyes," said the board's report."

The refusal comes after the Australian government "banned" Valve's competitive first-person shooter Left 4 Dead 2.

Report a problem with article
Previous Story

Google testing Goggles visual search

Next Story

Avast begins bundling Google Chrome as part of installation

77 Comments

Commenting is disabled on this article.

Atlonite said,
bloody ******* the lot of em. and you got the description of koalas wrong they're not man eating just brain devouring

They also left out the dragons.

I swear game companies know that the games they are releasing are going to be banned in australia now, but they go for it anyway coz its free publicity for the game.

TBH as shocked as I am yet again....the entire Alien vs Predator series was crap....and I wouldn't have bought this game anyway lol

But on the other hand.....I'm annoyed that If I wanted too id have to yet again play a crappy censored version.

Come on give us a R18+ classification please!!!!!!!!!
Everyone should join
http://www.growupaustralia.com
Help us get R18+

That is a waste of time, people have tried for years and got nowhere. Fact is Australia is never getting a R18+ for games while Atkinson has power to stop it and there are no guarantees his successor (should he be voted out) won't follow the same hard line as him (and he seems pretty sure next in line for his position will continue to block R18+ for games). We are the ones who need to "grow up" and focus our attention on what the real problem is, how is it Atkinson is allowed to hold this much power? once that problem is solved, the other AGs who are in favour of the R18+ rating for games can then vote it in as a majority ruling....I know it's not quite that simple but basically what I'm saying is the problem is the system not Atkinson himself.

I'm not going to comment on Australia's policies because I don't know what all's involved, though on the surface it seems unnecessary. But I AM shocked to see what sorts of games Sega makes now. It makes me very sad. They were always my favorite video game company as a kid, and they had such amazing games... They don't make games like that anymore unfortunately, and it's a shame... I would still to this day buy a new Panzer Dragoon game, or Skies of Arcadia, or probably half a dozen other properties... But they focus on stuff like this anymore.

Sometimes we are so backwards in Australia. You'd think being one of the newest developed nations to emerge in the world we'd have superiour transport systems (looking at you, Sydney) and offcourse something like a R18+ sorted by now. Heck we allow 18 year olds to vote, drink and the like, and swearing seems to be the norm for many adults in Australia but blood and gore? It's not like R18 movies are being banned here..

The problem is (as Atkinson argues) video games are interactive allowing the children to act out the acts of violence (as opposed to just watching it happen on screen) and with the whole "violence in video games" debate raging on to whether violent games make violent children, Atkinson is just being an over protective parent (as he has children of his own I believe?) he isn't really doing anything wrong and to a degree I admire him for standing by his beliefs. The critical problem here is the government made it so all AGs must agree for a law to be passed, which gives him the power to block the law. So if we get what we want and vote him out, if his replacement feels the same he/she too can block the law from being passed and hense why it's the law that should be changed and not Atkinson.

NOTE: To those who will ague if the games are rated R18+, kids shouldn't be playing them be begin with well that there is another problem, many Australian parents don't understand the rating system on games and just blindly buy games for their kids. Not good.

Xerxes said,
NOTE: To those who will ague if the games are rated R18+, kids shouldn't be playing them be begin with well that there is another problem, many Australian parents don't understand the rating system on games and just blindly buy games for their kids. Not good.

I don't see how they can't. It's the same colours, ratings, everything as TV/Film. Those parents need a slap around the face with a dirty great big fish.

Oh yeah, and what atkinson complains about, being able to restrict minors to not being able to buy these games. The same rules apply to DVDs and at the cinemas, so why are games any different in that respect? Don't try and stick up for bad parenting.

Moustacha said,
I don't see how they can't. It's the same colours, ratings, everything as TV/Film. Those parents need a slap around the face with a dirty great big fish.

Oh yeah, and what atkinson complains about, being able to restrict minors to not being able to buy these games. The same rules apply to DVDs and at the cinemas, so why are games any different in that respect? Don't try and stick up for bad parenting.

They are different because games are interactive while film is not. I'm not sticking up for bad parenting, they are part of the reason we are in this mess! and they are also holding us back, how can we convince the government we are ready for R18+ games if we have parents who would ignore the rating system and buy their kids R18+ games? not exactly doing us any favours is it? one of the Australian gaming sites that is all for R18+ for games found out through a survey many parents don't even look at the rating on games when they buy them for their kids. It's not just a matter of introducing R18+ for games but educating people on why they should take notice of these ratings on games to begin with.

See, im starting to enjoy when they ban games now...I previously didnt have any interest in this game but if its banned I sure as hades do. Great publicity.

No he doesn't, what's to say his replacement isn't just as bad or even worse? the main problem here is one man has too much power! we don't need him out of office, we need the federal government to reign back how much power they give the AGs, as clearly it's too much.

Xerxes said,
No he doesn't, what's to say his replacement isn't just as bad or even worse? the main problem here is one man has too much power! we don't need him out of office, we need the federal government to reign back how much power they give the AGs, as clearly it's too much.

Considering Conroy's track record, I wouldn't want to give the Federal Government any more power in this regard.

Nashy said,
Atkinson can bend over and take it. The guy is the biggest **** on the planet.

I wont be the one giving it to him, but I totally agree with you. He is a F-wit, and I would happily get R18+ violence on him.

Actually you should be blaming our government for giving that man that much power to begin with. Even if he is voted out of office, there is no guarantees the next person won't be the same and if they are we'll be deadlocked till the next AG comes in hoping they think differently! what we need and should be demanding is the powers of the AGs to be changed to reflect the times. Hell Atkinson doesn't even care if he voted out because he said there are more who think like him, so really voting him out (or blaming him) does nothing.

"Rebellion is disappointed that its upcoming title Aliens vs. Predator has been banned in Australia," Rebellion said. "However, as we understand the law in that country, the authorities had no choice as we agree strongly that our game is not suitable for game players who are not adults."

"The content of AVP is based on some of the most innovative and iconic horror movies, and as such we wanted to create a title that was true to the source material. It is for adults, and it is bloody and frightening, that was our intent. We will not be releasing a sanitized or cut down version for territories where adults are not considered by their governments to be able to make their own entertainment choices."

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6242034.html

rock on. Im hoping this game is just like the previous installments. Those games were awesome, and this has such great potential.

Also just looking at the banning reasons:

"The game contains first-person perspective, close-up depictions of human characters being subjected to various types of violence, including explicit decapitation and dismemberment as well as locational damage such as stabbing through the chest, mouth, throat, or eyes," said the board's report."

I've seen MUCH worse violent, i just played Call of Duty : Modern Warfare 2, this has much much worse elements to it... i mean they mow down and entire airport full of innocent people and you get to be involved. You're telling me some fantasy based alien violence is too much?

This makes me angrier by the minute... games don't make people angry.. idiots who refuse them classification and treat Australian gamers like babies do!

crashguy said,
This makes me angrier by the minute... games don't make people angry.. idiots who refuse them classification and treat Australian gamers like babies do!

LOL

Well once again we here in Australia get screwed.

Essentially, they refuse to create an R18+ rating due to the fact that the people in charge of those areas, are a bunch of old men who do now have any touch with todays society and believe that donkey kong is the only game in the world.

In Australia it's really quite simple. Adult gamers head for X-Box 360 and PS3 and the nintendo Wii is for kids. This tends to be how it works. Not all the time, but it's a good generalisation.

After murdering left 4 dead 2, now they're banning a game which essentially has been released in this country before (the last AVP game on PC). This suggests they're in fact going backwards.

I think they need to realise that game inspired violent only tends to occur in the united states, not here. Gamers in Australia should not be painted with the same brush.

Additionally, why can films carry an R18+ rating, yet games cannot? cause i have seen waaay sicker stuff in movies then games by far.

Also Yinhcie.. some of what you said it stupid, but the internet connections? you're right on that.

small country?? what on earth are you talking about. Its comparable in size to the continental US. It just isnt as over populated as the US. Maybe you're confusing small with smaller population

addntox said,
small country?? what on earth are you talking about. Its comparable in size to the continental US. It just isnt as over populated as the US. Maybe you're confusing small with smaller population

You guys would be just as populated as we are if you weren't floating around in the middle of nowhere and if 66% of your land wasn't a slithering mass of venomous critters and giant kick-boxing rabbits.

BigBoobLover said,
The US is "over populated"? Have you ever actually visited this country? The population density of the US is one of the lowest in the world!

Ranked 178 out of 239 : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_count...ulation_density

Yeah, Australia is even lower, but the US is FAR from being "over populated".


yes ive been to the US bad choice of words..mea culpa. I mean as populated. Some cities do have quite a dense population though. I'm british, not australian, i emigrated to canada some years ago (solardog).

Because retarded kids are killed in secrecy in Australia?
Because they are banned?

Not like we will miss Australia gamers with their 3rd world country connections. Small country, small gamer community.

You guys can complain as much as you want, but Australia doesn't have killings at schools nor young kids killing each other like the US does.

Luis Mazza said,
You guys can complain as much as you want, but Australia doesn't have killings at schools nor young kids killing each other like the US does.

Would that be because you're too worried about which small bug/animal that bites you could be the last one to ever bite you? lol

Luis Mazza said,
You guys can complain as much as you want, but Australia doesn't have killings at schools nor young kids killing each other like the US does.

Monash Uni ring a bell? ~ 2002?

Besides, can't really compare murder rates with virtually any other country to the USA because of the rather lax gun laws the US has compared to other countries.

Luis Mazza said,
You guys can complain as much as you want, but Australia doesn't have killings at schools nor young kids killing each other like the US does.

What does this have to do with why the game was banned? Oh yeah...nothing.

Luis Mazza said,
You guys can complain as much as you want, but Australia doesn't have killings at schools nor young kids killing each other like the US does.

What about the Monash Uni shootings? Or how about Port Arthur? Whilst the later may not have been a school shooting, but it is one of the worst and biggest massacre committed in recent history committed by a single person.

trag3dy said,
I'm still curios to know what violent crime rates in America have to do with this game being banned in Australia. Are you trying to say that violent video games make people do violent things? Or what?

Actually the correlation between explicit violence and video games is huge. When I used to play video games we had Super Mario and the shooting games were not so real. Guns were pretty much available at that time like they're today. Nothing like those nonsense shootings used to happen. But with the start of war games and the militarism of the first Bush government and on, added to the behavior of some retard kids, like super spoiled ones or even psychopaths with access to extremely powerful visual violence with interactivity, that has resulted as the perfect recipe for disasters. Thus, I don't really think it is more fun to kill humans then aliens. The shooting strategy can be the same. It is just unnecessary and unsafe. Why? People who need all the explicit super gore to feel happy, should then get a psychiatrist or work out their personal lives and tastes better.

All I'm reading in your posts is that unstable people commented crimes for one reason or another. You offer no facts or anything else that there is a connection. And I still don't get what this has to do with violent crime rates in America and the game being banned in Australia. I don't know why you're so happy to defend a government that assumes you're mentally ill and that this game is going to cause you to load up on guns and go to the nearest school with them to sort out your issues.

But hey...at least you don't have to decide for yourself if you can handle it or not.

trag3dy said,
All I'm reading in your posts is that unstable people commented crimes for one reason or another. You offer no facts or anything else that there is a connection. And I still don't get what this has to do with violent crime rates in America and the game being banned in Australia. I don't know why you're so happy to defend a government that assumes you're mentally ill and that this game is going to cause you to load up on guns and go to the nearest school with them to sort out your issues.

But hey...at least you don't have to decide for yourself if you can handle it or not. :)

The rating is basically a guide for parents. I gave you more to think about then you needed. I don't have enough spare time to list articles and specialists. But if parents are too busy to try to understand the ratings or they don't even care about it, then we have all the messy spoiled American kids we have today, the ones that have no idea of how to deal with a "NOOO"... Then simply kill their parents. That's all. Go have some reading about the subject and respect the ones that can see it from the outside, because one day I was questioning this whole idea like yourself. Now I grew up! Bye

Luis Mazza said,
You guys can complain as much as you want, but Australia doesn't have killings at schools nor young kids killing each other like the US does.

LOL and thats down to not having 18cert rating for a game? get your head out your ass mate when did a game pull a trigger of a REAL weapon....

They should remove rated R movies too then. I'd like to see what would happen if their highest rated movies were PG-13.

Because the ministers are old world and like to hang onto the values that "if we don't pass it, then they won't obtain it and start going on rampages".

I'm guessing their government decided for the people who may use what kinds of entertainment. Adults may watch movies, and only young children can play video games. So any violent or "naughty" video game is banned.

Or does this mean the government there believes all people there (including adults) only have the MIND of a child, and so must be protected from games like these?

Any way you look at it, it is insulting to the people of Australia.

Xenomorph said,
I'm guessing their government decided for the people who may use what kinds of entertainment. Adults may watch movies, and only young children can play video games. So any violent or "naughty" video game is banned.

Or does this mean the government there believes all people there (including adults) only have the MIND of a child, and so must be protected from games like these?

Any way you look at it, it is insulting to the people of Australia.

It's not as much the "Government" as it is one state Attorney-General.

brent3000 said,
hell with SA IMO... the only good thing coming out of there is 10c per can...

...and the Barossa Valley and all of its associated wines.

Foub said,
If its overly and unnecessarily violent.

But it isn't, and it should be if your not adult enough to handle some polygons on a screen, then don't buy it, simple.

Foub said,
If its overly and unnecessarily violent.

Yeah well public should get to choose if they think as such whether a game should be banned or not. Shouldn't be left to a bunch of politically correct morons in a room who are all over 40 probably and are so far out of touch with understanding the maturity of a 15 year old or that there's a market for R18 in Australia.

mattbiernat said,
obviously none of the politicians in Australia ever studied human psychiatry and adolescent development.

+1

Orange said,
I would hate to live there.. seems like every game gets banned lol

That must really suck. And there I thought the Germans had it pretty bad already in terms of games censorship, but the Australians are obviously even worse off.

lflashl said,
hahaha for a county of ex cons, this is a funny.....

Yeah, us Australian never get sick of that joke.

It is all because of the Attorney General of South Australia refusing to add an R classification to video games. It requires a vote from all the Attorney Generals of the state and territories of Australia which is reasonable enough but what is unreasonable is that it has to be a unanimous decision. Because of this the South Australian Attorney General can veto it based on his own idealized religious views, pain in the arse really.