All hope for Verizon iPhone now dead, hints CEO

Verizon's CEO Ivan Seidenberg confirmed yesterday that all rumours of the Verizon iPhone are not true, crushing the dreams of the iPhone being on a decent network within the United States.

The Verizon iPhone rumour has been surfacing for years now, with analyst predictions and inside confirmations that Apple is nearing the major announcement for the phone. However, all of those dreams are now washed away, as Seidenberg said in a conference that he hopes Apple will come around and allow Verizon to sell the iPhone.

Although Seidenberg didn't comment on the company's current network, it's pretty clear that there haven't been any positive talks with Apple that might possibly bring the iPhone to the network. Seidenberg did mention that Verizon is working on upgrading their network to 4G, and would be a step in the right direction for Apple to allow iPhone on the Verizon network.

"I think 4G will accelerate the process, and any other decisions Apple makes would be fine with us," Seidenberg said. "Hopefully, at some point Apple will get with the program."

Verizon plans on launching their LTE 4G service by the end of the year in 25-30 major cities and nationwide coverage by 2012.

So there you have it, all rumours, including the one about a CDMA iPhone, can be put to rest, at least for now.

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At&t was once the BEST network there is, until they had changed "unlimited broadband" to army rations. That is simply fugaze', to any network that would follow suit with this backwardism I would apply the same adjective. Sprint however appears to be in a sound state of mind and body. I would gravitate toward them and what is it that they have now...4GS? Unlimited bandwidth, faster network....DROID! Ah thats as no brainer. Why would you pay twice as much for less, that is not very republican! Duh....start thinking!

onebadolepuddycat said,
At&t was once the BEST network there is, until they had changed "unlimited broadband" to army rations. That is simply fugaze', to any network that would follow suit with this backwardism I would apply the same adjective. Sprint however appears to be in a sound state of mind and body. I would gravitate toward them and what is it that they have now...4GS? Unlimited bandwidth, faster network....DROID! Ah thats as no brainer. Why would you pay twice as much for less, that is not very republican! Duh....start thinking!

That's odd... For those of us that have an unlimited option we still have it (unless we want tethering). To be quite honest my usage is low enough that I wouldn't have an issue switching but I saw unlimited options still in my list when I went to check out my options.

shinji257 said,

That's odd... For those of us that have an unlimited option we still have it (unless we want tethering). To be quite honest my usage is low enough that I wouldn't have an issue switching but I saw unlimited options still in my list when I went to check out my options.


If you have unlimited, you will keep it till its time to renew your contract / get a new contract.

All new subscribers, however, are limited to either 200mb ($15) or 2gb ($25).

/- Razorfold said,

If you have unlimited, you will keep it till its time to renew your contract / get a new contract.

All new subscribers, however, are limited to either 200mb ($15) or 2gb ($25).

Wrong, You keep it until you need tethering or you voluntarily switch your data plan. I have a pdf print of my upgrade options and I am not under contract (have not been for at least 9 months). Even then I didn't just see unlimited options. I was able to switch to enterprise unlimited options too. Those were still open to me if I wanted to. This was on the web form.

/- Razorfold said,

If you have unlimited, you will keep it till its time to renew your contract / get a new contract.

All new subscribers, however, are limited to either 200mb ($15) or 2gb ($25).

As shinji257 pointed out, that's not true. You can keep it as long as you already have it. You can no longer get it.

If you choose to downgrade, then there is no going back. If you want tethering, then you must downgrade.

I downgraded to 2 GB because it is discounted on premier plans (business/school discounts), but unlimited is not. So, it was either used ~200-300 MB per month and pay $30, or use the same amount and pay $25 - discount. I chose the suckier, but cheaper route.

Sonic. said,
The iPhone is insignificant since we have Droid.

Droid is crap without a rooted device, so it's not really a droid anymore. I dont have an I phone, I dont really want one but my iPad is nice. WP7 is where it is and that's not at verizon,

Guess it depends where you live, I have AT&T and am quite happy with them. Did a price comparison with Verizon and Verizon was way more expensive!

No big loss. Verizon is a horrible network carrier. The only reason they run the "can you hear me now" campaign a few years back was:
1). They have locked down devices, they have to reflect the criticism somewhere else.
2). Their network coverage may be the biggest, but their reception is crap.

This in no way endorses ATT as being better than Verizon. All wireless carriers suck. Some are just worse than others. Verizon and ATT are pretty much at the bottom of the barrel

bluarash said,
No big loss. Verizon is a horrible network carrier. The only reason they run the "can you hear me now" campaign a few years back was:
1). They have locked down devices, they have to reflect the criticism somewhere else.
2). Their network coverage may be the biggest, but their reception is crap.

This in no way endorses ATT as being better than Verizon. All wireless carriers suck. Some are just worse than others. Verizon and ATT are pretty much at the bottom of the barrel

Having tried all of the major carriers in the US with the exception of T-Mobile, and having traveled around the country with devices from all of these respective networks, I can't even tell you how misinformed your statement is. Verizon (My current carrier) is WORLDS better than AT&T or Sprint in service area, reception, customer service (Which isn't saying much at all), etc. Aside from phone selection, which they could use some improvement with, I can't think of anywhere where Verizon is trailing these other carriers...

How is it that Verizon is supposed to be the biggest and best carrier, but yet they don't, and won't have 4G until 2012? How does Sprint already have it? Come 2012 and Verizon releases 4G, Sprint is going to laugh and say been there and done that 2 years ago.

notta said,
How is it that Verizon is supposed to be the biggest and best carrier, but yet they don't, and won't have 4G until 2012? How does Sprint already have it? Come 2012 and Verizon releases 4G, Sprint is going to laugh and say been there and done that 2 years ago.

Sprint may have beat the other carriers to it, but it's all but guaranteed that the other carriers will do it better and more reliable. I've not used Sprint's 4G services, but in my time with Sprint, the reliability was horrendous. I would not expect this to improve.

M_Lyons10 said,

Sprint may have beat the other carriers to it, but it's all but guaranteed that the other carriers will do it better and more reliable. I've not used Sprint's 4G services, but in my time with Sprint, the reliability was horrendous. I would not expect this to improve.

It might depend on where you are and what you mean by reliability. I ultimately left at&t for Sprint a year ago because dropped calls were driving me completely out of my mind. They're nothing but a memory now, and the first question I ask if a call drops nowadays is "Are you on at&t?"

Admittedly I'm tired of CDMA's limitations, and no matter how fantastic the coverage may be, it doesn't make up for the frustration with not getting WP7 handhelds until the middle of next year.

I've been considering going back to at&t. The cost is essentially the same, and with all the traveling I like to do, I've been missing SIM cards.

I can't believe Verizon kept going with CDMA. There has been far better technology for a long time.

*waits for all the fools to rebut this based on ATT speeds and service only*

Nashy said,
I can't believe Verizon kept going with CDMA. There has been far better technology for a long time.

*waits for all the fools to rebut this based on ATT speeds and service only*

Well, I'm not really interested in getting into that argument, but both GSM and CDMA have their own positives and negatives... It's not as simple as one just being better than the other. It could be argued that because GSM is used by more of the world, and as a result phones on GSM carriers can more easily become "world phones", that GSM is better, but that's really it's biggest selling point.

Nashy said,
I can't believe Verizon kept going with CDMA. There has been far better technology for a long time.

Like EVDO? Yeah most CDMA phones and all the carriers support that.

Isn't it possible that Verizon is just trying to protect sales through the holiday season? If they confirmed the iPhone was coming in, say, January, what sort of impact would that have on smartphone sales until then? Yeah, some people would buy an Android device and call it a day, but Verizon would rightly be worried about the number of people who would throw off their 4th quarter sales goals by waiting for the Next Big Thing.

We see this kind of behavior all the time.

Joshie said,
Isn't it possible that Verizon is just trying to protect sales through the holiday season? If they confirmed the iPhone was coming in, say, January, what sort of impact would that have on smartphone sales until then? Yeah, some people would buy an Android device and call it a day, but Verizon would rightly be worried about the number of people who would throw off their 4th quarter sales goals by waiting for the Next Big Thing.

We see this kind of behavior all the time.

This can't be more true. I, as I would consider, an educated consumer; I see all signs pointing to Q1 2011 as iPhone CDMA. I think this one will be both GSM and CDMA, so it may carry a bit more of a price tag. I'm holding out for it, I'm not sure if I want a Droid or an iPhone but I want one. I want choice.

why do u want that iPoon on verizon? you already have better phones from HTC, the HTC Desire, Desire HD. just to name a few...

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