AMD Delays Bulldozer

Oh, AMD. We have been patiently waiting for your Bulldozer FX processors (code-named "Zambezi") for a while now. Now you throw us another delay, according to inside sources at Xbit Labs and Insideris. For those who have not been following, delays are typical of AMD, but this one came out of nowhere it seems. Bulldozer is the next generation processor from AMD, and "Zambezi" desktop parts were supposed to be made available for mass availability this month, according to inside sources. However, the parts will be delayed until Q4 2011 or possibly later, sources say.

What is the evidence for this outside of inside sources? Well, a comment from John Fruehe, of course. Fruehe is the Director of Product Marketing for Server/Workstation Products at AMD. When asked about Interlagos (a code name for one of the server versions of Bulldozer parts) in the article "The Start of a New Era", he replied in a comment:

Interlagos is a server part, there is no desktop variant. The client version of Bulldozer is Zambezi and it will launch in Q4.

AMD, apparently, has settled the matter itself. AMD did not start shipping its Valencia (Opteron 4200) and Interlagos (Opteron 6200) chips for revenue until August, though the company is eyeing a September 26th release. Based on all of this, it looks like high-volume availability of Bulldozer will not occur until Q4 of this year or Q1 2012. By the way, that definitely will not help sales of Bulldozer.

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buuu, but i guess its the best, they want to create something amazing and if it doesn't work as expected well... it has to be delayed, specially since they got a new CEO and maybe it was his decision. anyway q4 isn't like alot of months away, but i wanted to see how these bulldozer porformanced.

i wish i could have one! most people dont know what 100% cpu with 6 cores, its, but i do, so i want more, i wanna see how these bulldozers work... not very expensive, so that means no intel. anyway, i dont care about stupid benchmarks, some people do... and i just think how stupid people can be... but whatever. my only hopes its AMD will release bulldozer in Q4.

Who needs a desktop with a 16 core CPU? I know desktop Bulldozer will probably not have 16 core, but from what I could read, AMD is not able to be competitive with Intel on speed, the i7 is still faster.

Exacly like what we have right now, Intel CPU, with less core at lower speed are able to beat the best AMD Phenom CPU.....

Will AMD ever be able to best Intel again? The Pentium 4 era is long gone....

TruckWEB said,
Who needs a desktop with a 16 core CPU? I know desktop Bulldozer will probably not have 16 core, but from what I could read, AMD is not able to be competitive with Intel on speed, the i7 is still faster.

Exacly like what we have right now, Intel CPU, with less core at lower speed are able to beat the best AMD Phenom CPU.....

Will AMD ever be able to best Intel again? The Pentium 4 era is long gone....

From what you read? And what DID YOU READ? There is no 16 core desktop CPU, you idt.

Edited by FoxieFoxie, Sep 8 2011, 7:06pm :

FoxieFoxie said,

From what you read? And what DID YOU READ? There is no 16 core desktop CPU, you idt.

AMD remains mute on progress of the consumer-level Zambezi, but rumors are that the company can't clock it fast enough to compete with Intel's Core i7 -- the very class that Bulldozer was designed to bury.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/0...-servers-makes-consumers-w/

There you go idt, it may be rumours, but with the last CPU that came out of AMD, it is possible.

TruckWEB said,
Who needs a desktop with a 16 core CPU? I know desktop Bulldozer will probably not have 16 core, but from what I could read, AMD is not able to be competitive with Intel on speed, the i7 is still faster.

Exacly like what we have right now, Intel CPU, with less core at lower speed are able to beat the best AMD Phenom CPU.....

Will AMD ever be able to best Intel again? The Pentium 4 era is long gone....

Keep in mind that a Bulldozer CPU core is not a standard CPU core. A Bulldozer module (2 Bulldozer cores) contains 2 integer units, but only one floating point unit that requires both cores to be used. Think of it like hyperthreading (though it's very different), some logic is duplicated, but some is shared between.

Read an intresting point that because GF 32nm process is not very old that yields arn't all that high and as a result they are having to stockpile for a launch. It's not like they can match Intel in production, plus they have to produce the C,E and A series chips as well.

The server market is there main target with Bulldozer anyway with high end enthusiast coming second. They have to go where the money is after all

hmm good thing I built my sandy bridge system then.I was thinking to wait for bulldozer for my next build but it appears I made the right decision.

Varoon said,
hmm good thing I built my sandy bridge system then.I was thinking to wait for bulldozer for my next build but it appears I made the right decision.

Same here. Why wait? SB is freakin awesome!

GP007 said,
Another case of AMD shooting itself in the foot.

As opposed to rushing it out and risking another Sandy bridge incident? AMD couldn't afford that.

This will only hurt sales of Bulldozer for when it actually does get released.

I use to be a big AMD fan but now Im not to fussed really, ive been very happy with intel in the past few years and it will take something amazing from AMD to bring me back.

WarioTBH said,
This will only hurt sales of Bulldozer for when it actually does get released.

I use to be a big AMD fan but now Im not to fussed really, ive been very happy with intel in the past few years and it will take something amazing from AMD to bring me back.

The only reason you are happy with Intel's performance is due to AMD's Athlons. Without them, you (and us) would still be stick in the Pentium days.

And now, AMD are having trouble releasing their new technology, and what do you see? Intel artificially delays their new CPUs. So for ours sake, pray that AMD does well.

WarioTBH said,
This will only hurt sales of Bulldozer for when it actually does get released.

I use to be a big AMD fan but now Im not to fussed really, ive been very happy with intel in the past few years and it will take something amazing from AMD to bring me back.

Performance/Cost is AMD's motto. You haven't checked the APUs lately.

Arceles said,

Performance/Cost is AMD's motto. You haven't checked the APUs lately.

But how much longer will AMD be able to compete with Intel in that segment?

The performance crown is one thing, but AMD's CPUs have been heartily outperformed by Intel's for years now. Clearly AMD architecture has fallen behind. Right now AMD can price their high end processors to compete with Intel's mid to low end offerings. But, if they continue to fall further behind Intel, how long can they continue to do that and make a profit?

CentralDogma said,

But how much longer will AMD be able to compete with Intel in that segment?

The performance crown is one thing, but AMD's CPUs have been heartily outperformed by Intel's for years now. Clearly AMD architecture has fallen behind. Right now AMD can price their high end processors to compete with Intel's mid to low end offerings. But, if they continue to fall further behind Intel, how long can they continue to do that and make a profit?

AMD is moving into the HTPC/Phone/etc. segment more and more. That's how the plan on making a profit. They do a lot of OEM stuff.