AMD's Opteron goes to 3.2GHz

AMD is trying to breath new life into its dual-core Opteron by upping the chip to 3.2GHz just weeks before Barcelona rolls on store shelves. AMD announced today the pricing and availability to its Opteron 2000 and 8000 series x86 chips, both in a mainstream and high performance flavor.

The top-end models 8224 SE and 2224 SE now clock in at a speedier 3.2GHz. Model 2224 SE — aimed at dual-socket rigs — costs $873 in volume. The model 8224 SE chip — which fits in four-socket boxes — will go for a meatier $2,149 greenbacks

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lol only way i would buy that proc is if i won the lotto

still saving up my money tho debating on 6000 or wait for the 6400 to come out

Just my opinion but this is more evidence of AMD being in trouble. Intel has released a line of processors that show clock speed really isn't all that important, meanwhile what is AMD doing to try to catch back up? Bumping up the clock speed of their older chips. I have nothing against AMD and we need the competition. I wish they'd get back in the game but all they seem to be doing lately is fumbling.

TRC said,
[...] Intel has released a line of processors that show clock speed really isn't all that important [...]
This is what INTEL actually learned with AMD and their Athlon XP series vs the P4.

Now go read post #5.

Pip'

Yes, though I'm not sure how that is relevant. The Athlon line was great for it's time, but AMD is still going backwards now.

TRC said,
Yes, though I'm not sure how that is relevant. The Athlon line was great for it's time, but AMD is still going backwards now.
As post #5 states, AMD is thinking consumer wise.

Pip'

Someone with a system Opteron ready can upgrade to this CPUs without having to change a whole set of hardware needed to go to INTEL's new products.

Good thinking AMD.

Pip'

For the cost of one of these chips I think I'd rather just get an updated motherboard myself. Barcelona will be out in a few weeks anyway as the article said, paying so much money for one of these now would be really dumb in my opinion. Good thinking AMD? I beg to differ.

Pippin666 said,
Someone with a system Opteron ready can upgrade to this CPUs without having to change a whole set of hardware needed to go to INTEL's new products.

Good thinking AMD.

Pip'

But at that price, why would you? Even with a new top-of-the-line P35 motherboard and a $300 quad core q6600, it would still be cheaper and performance better.

Even sadder for AMD is that the q6600's power consumption is not much higher than these Opterons.

AMD has to stop trying to milk its old technology and release Barcelona and new motherboard chipsets. AMD's old tech no longer cuts it, there is not a single advantage to using it over a Conroe or Penryn-based CPU.

toadeater said,

But at that price, why would you? Even with a new top-of-the-line P35 motherboard and a $300 quad core q6600, it would still be cheaper and performance better.

Even sadder for AMD is that the q6600's power consumption is not much higher than these Opterons.

AMD has to stop trying to milk its old technology and release Barcelona and new motherboard chipsets. AMD's old tech no longer cuts it, there is not a single advantage to using it over a Conroe or Penryn-based CPU.

Yea look how long Intel milked the P4. The P3 was better at the launch of the P4.

toadeater said,
But at that price, why would you?

Because i highly doubt anyone with an exisiting opteron server would bother to reinstall the whole thing just to upgrade to intel when they can simply buy this cpu and pop it into already existing hardware.

I highly doubt anyone with an existing opteron server would bother to pay thousands of dollars for a slightly faster processor for their dead end platform either.

toadeater said,
AMD has to stop trying to milk its old technology
Like Intel did with the Pentium M which became the Core series?

You like Intel did with the Pentium M which became the Core series?

Right, because as we all know the Pentium M and Core series have been such failures. I think you totally missed the point.


Uhm, no I didn't miss any point. Someone complained that AMD were milking their CPUs. The Core series wouldn't exist without the Pentium M because except for some minor tweaks and larger caches they're the same chip.

The point was AMD is clinging to a basically dead chip line that can no longer compete, bumping up the clock speed trying to get every last penny they can out of it instead of coming up with something new that can compete with the Core series. Understand yet?

The Core series wouldn't exist without the Pentium M because except for some minor tweaks and larger caches they're the same chip.

So what? If a product continues to be successful why should they come out with something completely different? Again, you're not getting it.

The world makes such a stink about clock speed and when AMD has a somewhat comparable clock, the world poo-poo's them?

What will be egg-on-the-face (so to speak: it may not happen) is when these fast processors come out and the new ones with new chipsets don't perform as well without a new motherboard, ram, et al., and who knows... they may be compatible in the socket?

So, what's next?
I'll wait to see before I ballyhoo or ne'er-do-well anything.

The 1066 FSB Core 2 Duos go higher than that. I only have a E6600, and I can get it up to 3.4 GHz just with air cooling and a third-party heatsink. Think of what I could do with a E6850.

Yeah but Opteron 165 was out for two full years before C2D came along. They overclock like magic, kind of silly AMD is now only releasing a 3.2GHz model but it appears from all the models to be the max speed the current architecture as none of the lower models overclock past that threshold. The question is do you buy a base model opteron for $100 and overclock it to at least 3.0GHz as many reach or spend $873 ?

Budious said,
Yeah but Opteron 165 was out for two full years before C2D came along. They overclock like magic, kind of silly AMD is now only releasing a 3.2GHz model but it appears from all the models to be the max speed the current architecture as none of the lower models overclock past that threshold. The question is do you buy a base model opteron for $100 and overclock it to at least 3.0GHz as many reach or spend $873 ? :blink:

The Pentium 4 did 4GHz+ on air, the E6300 overclocks past X6800 stock on the stock cooler, what's your point? Why do people buy X6800s? Because people don't want to overclock, or have too much money to spend.

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