Analyst: Google+ user base skyrockets since going public

Google's social networking service Google+ finally opened its doors completely to the public a few days ago with no need for an invite. As one might expect, the users base for Google+ has increased rapidly. A Google+ post from Paul Allen, the co-founder of Ancestry.com and a person who has offered up unofficial user stats for Google+ in the past, said that back on September 9, Google+ had 28.7 million users. Allen added that on September 22, two days after Google+ went public, " ... our model shows 37.8 million users, with most of the growth coming in the last 2 days. By adding a fudge factor ... to account for private user profiles and for non-Roman surnames (both of which are totally overlooked by our surname counting model), my current estimate is 43.4 million users."

Allen has also improved on his model for calculating user numbers in Google+. He states, "My earlier model ... which proved to be very accurate in the first 2-3 weeks, did not address either private profiles or non-Roman alphabet. According to FindPeopleOnPlus.com, there are substantial numbers of users from countries like Indonesia, China, Vietnam, Japan, Thailand, and many other countries, which my surname counting approach does not include. So I have decided to add a 5 (percent) privacy fudge factor and a 10 (percent) non-Roman alphabet fudge factor in my Google+ model. I'll need to develop a way to actually calculate those percentages somehow, rather than just guess on them."

So far Google itself has yet to give any official user numbers for Google+ since it went public earlier this week. It's likely that Google won't reveal those numbers until its next quarterly financial report which should be held sometime in October.

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Dunno about you guys but I don't have the need for two exact same social networks. Yeah I've just read you're washing your cat or god you're hungover! Don't need to read it twice. Google+ for me brings nothing new to the table.

DiamondFootprint said,
Dunno about you guys but I don't have the need for two exact same social networks. Yeah I've just read you're washing your cat or god you're hungover! Don't need to read it twice. Google+ for me brings nothing new to the table.

You'll always get people announcing mundane things "whichever" social network your on.

It's gonna take some time for people to migrate over to Google. I can't seem to get anyone to move over there. Not even when I tell them it's free and you aren't out anything for trying.
People do not like change but it seems that although they may bitch about facebook's changes, they are willing to put up with them.

Most people always complain they have no friends in G+, that's why they reluctant to try out G+. Well, it has to start somewhere, just circle people, go mix around, if you find their post interesting, circle them, give comments, and make new friends.. that's why it is called social network!

Of course people who didn't get to the Closed "Beta" or whatever it was called are going to join to test it out. I know I did and then stopped using it immediately. Didn't see point, all of my friends are in FB and don't know anyone being in G+.

I'm trying to figure out what everyone is talking about...I have Google+ and use the Android app for it, and I always go to the "nearby" part of the app and find new people always. I've made a ton of friends here in Vegas because they are "nearby"... It's obvious G+ is growing, and probably will continue to grow, while Facebook continues to "add" stuff that users end up complaining.

It's a shame that people are so resistive to change. I use Google+. Not much, since no-one else seems to, but I do use it. It is a shame really because whenever I use Google+, and then switch tabs to Facebook, Facebook just seems completely ancient. Google+ is a user interface dream, and Facebook just seems to be adding stuff all over the feed page to clog it up. In the last few weeks in particular, Facebook has added so much stuff to the user interface that doesn't belong.

In particular, things like the "Live Feed" floating thing on the right, that just obscures everything on the page. The "auto lists" feature that nobody wants nor needs, the completely random order that news stories now appear in. It's a usability nightmare! Even their "public posts" addition that gives twitter-like functionality (has Neowin even covered that yet?) seems clunky and tacked on.

Google+ on the other hand has similar features, but in comparison they seem... well, thought out. Everything has its place, all the buttons are where you expect them to be, and the permissions setup is infinitely better. It really is a dream to use. If only people actually used it.

google+ is dead. unless you can offer something substantially better than the competition, then no one is going to migrate their whole profiles over and hope everyone else they know will as well. Thats why it will never work. Sure you might get the curious to start signing up, but the problem is are they going to stay? Looking back at the beta users, its a no. Even the CEO stopped using it.

vcfan said,
google+ is dead. unless you can offer something substantially better than the competition, then no one is going to migrate their whole profiles over and hope everyone else they know will as well. Thats why it will never work. Sure you might get the curious to start signing up, but the problem is are they going to stay? Looking back at the beta users, its a no. Even the CEO stopped using it.
LOL Larry has indeed stopped making public posts.

day2die said,
I joined Google+ just to see what the buzz was all about then stopped using it.

I joined Google+ just to reserve an account, then continued on with Facebook.

So after it stalled and started to look like it was going south, it "picked up again" after going public. I'm shocked! So are we counting people who signed up but haven't used it in, i dunno, over a week still? Because lots of people will try stuff online once, specially if it's free, and never use it again you know.

Nothing to see here....that was pretty much expected.....it could just be one more step towards making Google+ another Orkut!.....although I might be exaggerating but that's what I thought the moment I saw so many requests from people (as soon it went public) who came from orkut........Google seems to be lagging behind in UI innovations......they gotta understand that content is important ONLY when it is presented in a beautiful way.......people have a very short attention span these days.....and consequently it is not hard to distract them away from something.....!

Mohitster said,
Nothing to see here....that was pretty much expected.....it could just be one more step towards making Google+ another Orkut!.....although I might be exaggerating but that's what I thought the moment I saw so many requests from people (as soon it went public) who came from orkut........Google seems to be lagging behind in UI innovations......they gotta understand that content is important ONLY when it is presented in a beautiful way.......people have a very short attention span these days.....and consequently it is not hard to distract them away from something.....!

I don't know about others, but Google+ UI looks pretty much better than Facebook, or at least on par with Facebook. But, with current messy page of FB, Google+ page looks so much better for me.

digitheatre said,

I don't know about others, but Google+ UI looks pretty much better than Facebook, or at least on par with Facebook. But, with current messy page of FB, Google+ page looks so much better for me.

I understand that they have done some good work towards that in recent past with color and treatment overhaul of gmail first and then then all google services......more towards making the UI more responsive and acceptable to touch based interfaces.......but if you see it more clearly....they lack organization of elements(which is needed for user friendliness) and uniqueness in their UI a lot.....

And no, even after the drastic (info load) mishap with Facebook recently, I believe Facebook's one looks much better because it has organization (and all the elements come out cohesively into one and look in harmony) which Google+ clearly lacks, even with fewer elements........ironically enough Google's own Gmail seems to have improved by leaps and bounds in that respect...so Google need not look outside for any inspiration!

Mohitster said,

I understand that they have done some good work towards that in recent past with color and treatment overhaul of gmail first and then then all google services......more towards making the UI more responsive and acceptable to touch based interfaces.......but if you see it more clearly....they lack organization of elements(which is needed for user friendliness) and uniqueness in their UI a lot.....

And no, even after the drastic (info load) mishap with Facebook recently, I believe Facebook's one looks much better because it has organization (and all the elements come out cohesively into one and look in harmony) which Google+ clearly lacks, even with fewer elements........ironically enough Google's own Gmail seems to have improved by leaps and bounds in that respect...so Google need not look outside for any inspiration!

in that case, beauty is in the eye of beholder
with more Google services integrated with Google+, to me G+ looks more harmony and becoming more not just yet another social network

digitheatre said,

in that case, beauty is in the eye of beholder
with more Google services integrated with Google+, to me G+ looks more harmony and becoming more not just yet another social network

yep it definitely is!

Mohitster said,
Nothing to see here....that was pretty much expected.....it could just be one more step towards making Google+ another Orkut!.....although I might be exaggerating but that's what I thought the moment I saw so many requests from people (as soon it went public) who came from orkut........Google seems to be lagging behind in UI innovations......they gotta understand that content is important ONLY when it is presented in a beautiful way.......people have a very short attention span these days.....and consequently it is not hard to distract them away from something.....!

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Facebook is tool for your average person. It has core features which it does really well like connecting with friends, sharing photos, etc… However, what Facebook doesn't understand is that no one likes their tool changing shape every 3 months. If I bought a regular hammer, I want it to be a hammer, not an electric hammer, not a 3-in-1 wiz gadget, and not a table saw!

The real problem is that Facebook keeps cluttering up their profile page ala MySpace when people really just want something simple, clean, and easy to use. The best features of a product are often what ISN'T included.

Good. I really want Facebook to get some competition.
They seem almost invincible to me, with that almost 800 million user-base of theirs.

Jedimark said,
My Google+ newsfeed hasn't changed since 9th August! Mind you, I only have 20 friends on it!

Google+ doesn't have to be used like facebook. You can also use it twitter-like and follow other people you're interested in. Felicia Day is on it! I follow her among with other neowin members (rappy). There's a lot of things to do on there, you just need to figure it out!

Tekkerson said,

Google+ doesn't have to be used like facebook. You can also use it twitter-like and follow other people you're interested in. Felicia Day is on it! I follow her among with other neowin members (rappy). There's a lot of things to do on there, you just need to figure it out!


Use Twitter then

Well duhhhhhh.....its new so people are interested. The true test is what will happen after that new car smell wears off. If I recall, some of those that got invites were already panning G+. However, maybe it will have more staying power now that more people are in.

NPGMBR said,
Well duhhhhhh.....its new so people are interested. The true test is what will happen after that new car smell wears off. If I recall, some of those that got invites were already panning G+. However, maybe it will have more staying power now that more people are in.

yeah.... the same happened to chrome when it was released first its use went up 1% in few days and then it went down...

still1 said,

yeah.... the same happened to chrome when it was released first its use went up 1% in few days and then it went down...

Chrome usage is still climbing more than IE, Firefox, and Opera so I'm not sure what you mean.

Northgrove said,

Chrome usage is still climbing more than IE, Firefox, and Opera so I'm not sure what you mean.

That was sarcasm.....