Analyst: New Xbox 360 model in 2012, no successor until 2014

If you were hoping that Microsoft would be releasing a next-gen console by the end of 2012, unfortunately you may be waiting slightly (actually, a lot) longer. Wedbush Securities analyst Michael Pachter, speaking to IndustryGamers, says that a new Xbox console by the end of 2012 is not going to happen and that the “rumors are silly.”

It makes sense too. As Pachter points out, Microsoft are still selling loads of Xbox 360s, in fact so many that they are constantly crowned the best selling console in a month. There is no reason for Microsoft to replace the console until they begin to lose sales.

Instead Pachter believes these rumors for a new Xbox in 2012 surround a new model of the existing Xbox 360 that would allow it to run Windows 8. He “fully expect[s] a new model of [the] Xbox 360 by holiday 2012” but doesn’t seem to think a whole new console will arrive until 2014. 2014 may seem like a long way down the track, but it does hold very close to Microsoft’s aim for a 10-year lifespan for the Xbox 360.

However it seems to me like there is an issue with this theory. Pachter believes that the new Xbox 360 model would be able to run Windows 8, so what would happen to the old Xbox 360 consoles that couldn’t? The upgrade from the fat Xbox 360 to slim Xbox 360 S didn’t introduce any new functionality to the console, so adding Windows 8 to the Xbox 360 through a hardware revision would, in some ways, create a new console with different functionality. Strange.

I guess we’ll have to wait to see if this becomes true. Personally I’m waiting for a new Xbox console that improves the graphical capabilities, but an intermittent upgrade is always nice.

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But did anyone really expect a brand new console in 2012 though? New consoles are generally released the year after they are announced. Unless i missed something,no new xbox was announced this year.

Despite what this idiot analyst says, i fully expect a brand new console to be announced at e3 next year, and be available for purchase sometime in 2013.

Putting windows 8 on a dying console would be stupid and put costs back up, not down.

What i would expect if anything is a new storage media, current rom media on xbox 360 is a joke.

So a blu-ray version would be good, but you never know if they will bother.

But did anyone really expect a brand new console in 2012 though? New consoles are generally released the year after they are announced. Unless i missed something,no new xbox was announced this year.

Despite what this idiot analyst says, i fully expect a brand new console to be announced at e3 next year, and be available for purchase sometime in 2013.

It sure would be nice if they released a version with a Bluray player. I would like to consolidate. I might have to wait until the next XBox though...

This just enforces that consoles are holding back gaming and the corporations behind these consoles have no interest to advance gaming to where PC gaming has gone.

PC will take the crown on the best gaming experience though consoles are the only way IMO to involve all gamers, easily. Consoles need to be updated more regularly! They are hurting gaming now IMO. Be a console fan and argue this, you are ignorant if you ignore the fact that consoles in their current market form are holding gaming back.

All you need to do is just look at the mods already available for Skyrim on PC and what the developers blatantly failed to achieve due to supporting consoles. Update consoles already Microsoft!

Ah come on, games are becoming intense after every new release and they require alot of graphics and processing power. I think it really needs a refresh.

Don't be so quick to shoot Pachter down - perhaps he isn't entirely correct or incorrect. He has obviously done his research on market saturation and competitor analysis.

What if the XBOX Universal console was actually future compatible - with the hardware/software required to play the next gen games (as well as existing titles), but without the flood of next gen catalog titles due in 2014, a great way of feeding/prepping the market for these future titles, while staying competitive and offering many new features via the embedded software.

You also have to bear in mind that the existing XBOX has now been opened up too much, especially with the recent RGH and the recent mistakes from dae opening access to the challenge tables, so it is a priority that the existing hardware comes to an end, which was expected.

Just wait to see what is announced in January at CES.

vistalabs said,
Don't be so quick to shoot Pachter down - perhaps he isn't entirely correct or incorrect. He has obviously done his research on market saturation and competitor analysis.

What if the XBOX Universal console was actually future compatible - with the hardware/software required to play the next gen games (as well as existing titles), but without the flood of next gen catalog titles due in 2014, a great way of feeding/prepping the market for these future titles, while staying competitive and offering many new features via the embedded software.

You also have to bear in mind that the existing XBOX has now been opened up too much, especially with the recent RGH and the recent mistakes from dae opening access to the challenge tables, so it is a priority that the existing hardware comes to an end, which was expected.

Just wait to see what is announced in January at CES.

Agreed, I think we need to wait and see, but I don't think a console like this would ever be able to be "future compatible". They will at some point need improved graphics and processing capabilities, which you simply cannot improve through a software update.

Don't believe any of it! first off they wouldn't be launching any dramatic HW changes given the S model still hasn't been around to long and secondly if they were planning anything big to coinside with Win8 launch they would be holding off the metro style dashboard update until such date.

trip21 said,
Don't believe any of it! first off they wouldn't be launching any dramatic HW changes given the S model still hasn't been around to long and secondly if they were planning anything big to coinside with Win8 launch they would be holding off the metro style dashboard update until such date.

Exactly. And, though I would be surprised if Windows 8 came to the XBox, if it did, it would most certainly be in the next version of the console, not just an update to the 360...

Microsoft wants a family friendly console so there is no way they are ever going to have Windows 8 or anything with a browser attached to it. They may have an app store for more options but they won't allow something that can't easily be filtered. Just my two cents.

jmc15john said,
Microsoft wants a family friendly console so there is no way they are ever going to have Windows 8 or anything with a browser attached to it. They may have an app store for more options but they won't allow something that can't easily be filtered. Just my two cents.

IE has parental controls built in, as does the XBox 360 OS, so it wouldn't really be a stretch for them to extend their parental controls to the browser. Even still, I do agree that I don't think Windows 8 is coming to the XBox... I would just be very surprised.

Im glad they are keeping the console alive They are doing a Playstation with this... The 360 if they keep the "Future COmpatable" part if it will live on for some time i think...

Well basically the Xbox 360 is getting cheaper as it's lifespan goes on. The first xbox barely lasted 4 years, although there was a massive jump in computer technology at the time. CPU's, Graphics, Internet and Ram shot up opening a massive gap for a new console. But since the release of the Xbox 360 there hasn't been as much innovation. There has been a decent jump in CPU's and Graphics but both of them will be ready to take their next big jump soon, I could maybe see the next xbox with a SSD.

Gaffney said,
Well basically the Xbox 360 is getting cheaper as it's lifespan goes on. The first xbox barely lasted 4 years, although there was a massive jump in computer technology at the time. CPU's, Graphics, Internet and Ram shot up opening a massive gap for a new console. But since the release of the Xbox 360 there hasn't been as much innovation. There has been a decent jump in CPU's and Graphics but both of them will be ready to take their next big jump soon, I could maybe see the next xbox with a SSD.

I doubt a SSD but its possible., but I suspect that we'll see a 2TB HDD or something similar, so that capacity in SSD != cost effective (at this time)

VoX said,
Oh the poor gullible parents and their bank accounts. Think of all.the wasted money.

I bought my Xbox 360 Elite on day of release. I never bought another one since then.

I don't think this is true although I have no sources but my intuition thinks that there will be a console refresh in 2012 and a BIG one that will probably last a long time. At the same time if there isn't maybe PC's will get a lot of action in the coming years <-- would be so down for some good solid and graphically great games!

dagamer34 said,
I didn't know Windows 8 was going to support PowerPC. That's news to me.

It isn't going to support PowerPC. This would be the sign of an analyst that doesn't know what he's talking about.

isnt that they what did with ie 6. they thought it was fine and didnt make anymore untill competition piled up? didnt turn out that great for them anyways..

yazb123 said,
isnt that they what did with ie 6. they thought it was fine and didnt make anymore untill competition piled up? didnt turn out that great for them anyways..

This is a bit different. In the console business they don't make any money for several years, so now they are. Why would they go to a loss already when they could be making some more money? It would kind of be silly. Additionally, I'm sure these companies are hoping for the economy to improve before launching another console...

New XBOX360 that runs Windows 8 and is TV's best friend? Would be cool if they made it a mini PC/App player, XBOX game console, and online TV streaming device.