Anonymous hacks security site, leaves message for Sabu

This week saw a dramatic twist in the story of hackers and cyber-activists Anonymous and spin-off group LulzSec, when one of its key figures, Hector Xavier Monsegur – better known by his alias, ‘Sabu’ – was revealed to be working with the FBI against his former brothers-in-arms, resulting in the arrest of numerous LulzSec members.

While Anonymous took to Twitter to comment on the turn of events yesterday, the response didn’t end there. Forbes reports that Anonymous hijacked the site of Panda Security, replacing its homepage with a message accusing the company of cooperating with law enforcement agencies against the hacker group; numerous company passwords were also posted on the site. But Anon also left an open message for Sabu at the top of the homepage:

Yeah yeah, we know, Sabu snitched on us. As usually happens FBI menaced him to take his sons away. We understand, but we were your family too. (Remember what you liked to say?) It’s sad and we can’t imagine how it feels having to look at the mirror each morning and see there the guy who shopped their friends to police.”


The note continued with words directed at Panda Security, whose researcher, Luis Corrons, had publicly applauded the LulzSec arrests, and claimed that as a result of those arrests, Anonymous would be crippled in its capabilities, limited only to basic denial of service attacks, rather than the more high-profile hacks and data breaches that the group has become famous for.

Anonymous posted:

LOL HE ASKED FOR THE LULZ!!!! HERE IT IS THE LULZ. Pandasecurity.com, better known for its shitty ANTIVIRUS WE HAVE BACKDOORED, has [been] earning money working with law enforcement to lurk and snitch on anonymous activists… yep we know about you. How does it feel to be the spied one?”


Apparently, Corrons’ prediction was somewhat wide of the mark there.

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How do I join Anon? I went on their IRC and some guy told me I was in if I launched some Dos attacks with them so I did but now I'm not sure if he was an official?

You know what all this reminds me of? The whole "Bush Conspiracy". Half the people claim he's a complete jackass barely capable of wiping his own ass, and the other half claim he's a greedy mastermind behind 9/11 and creating war for oil.

Honestly, that's what these arguments look like with Anonymous/LulzSec. They're either idiots or masterminds. No no wait, their idiots with only a few masterminds! Disregard the fact that they're clearly capable of attacking a security site, when their "masterminds" have been arrested!

Also, please disregard how everyone somehow knows what sort of people exist within a group called Anonymous (that could consist of anyone)!!

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Sorry, I get a big laugh at some of these claims. It's like a big mystery and everyone has it all "figured out".

Lucas said,
It would be nice if they actually used their skills to do something productive.
Sabu did prove that already.

While I don't support Anonymous AT ALL, (especially after they started saying s*** about Israel,) I wouldn't consider them script kiddies. (I am, though - you can see it in my forum title! xD ) I think what people seem to forget is that they specifically choose not to do anything more severe than a DDOS. You see, their deluded opinion is that if they just DDOS than all they are doing is online protesting & nothing more. Thus they're basically saying, "Oh we're not doing real hacking so that means we're no criminals." I wholeheartedly disagree, but, whatever...

Infinite facepalm. Here you have another writing on a wall that nobody is reading: a top computer security company that people rely the safety of their data upon and pay good monies for this belief, once again has failed to secure their own home turf. It's complete lunacy to expect them to be able to protect others.

Edited by Phouchg, Mar 7 2012, 4:19pm :

cralias said,
Infinite facepalm. Here you have another writing on a wall that nobody is reading: a top computer security company that people rely the safety of their data upon and pay good monies for this belief, once again has failed to secure their own home turf. It's complete lunacy to expect them to be able to protect others.

My homepage is not safe?

Doli said,

My homepage is not safe?

While I haven't in any way made such a statement thus far, if you have to boast like this, it probably isn't.

The world isn't gaining anything by these people hacking everybody.
These are just a bunch of kids that would rather hide behind a computer screen than face the real world. It's actually quite pathetic if you think about it.

Astra.Xtreme said,
The world isn't gaining anything by these people hacking everybody.
These are just a bunch of kids that would rather hide behind a computer screen than face the real world. It's actually quite pathetic if you think about it.

"We don't use IRL. Everything is real life. We use AFK."
- Peter Sunde Kolmisoppi

Computer systems are real. Your data is real. Careless mishandling of data by parties you trust and pay money is real.

Astra.Xtreme said,
The world isn't gaining anything by these people hacking everybody.
These are just a bunch of kids that would rather hide behind a computer screen than face the real world. It's actually quite pathetic if you think about it.

Srsly, read the article, he's not a kid.

IT makes me laugh when I heard people saying that anon is a bunch of kiddies.
This my friend is pure jealousy, because you can't do 10% of what they do and you are dying to be one of them.
Please stop being jealous, for your own purpose and because I can't stop laughing which is not good cuz I will probably die. TooMuchLaughException.

boumboqc said,
IT makes me laugh when I heard people saying that anon is a bunch of kiddies.
This my friend is pure jealousy, because you can't do 10% of what they do and you are dying to be one of them.
Please stop being jealous, for your own purpose and because I can't stop laughing which is not good cuz I will probably die. TooMuchLaughException.

YEah firing up LOIC is real hard to do.

or did you mean the 2-3 actual hackers who sometimes credit their work to anon to give the group some measure of credibility as a hacker group ?They are not Anon, They are hacker who sometimes act as Anon. Anon is the herd of sheep who use LOIC and IRC to do DDOS attacks.

HawkMan said,

YEah firing up LOIC is real hard to do.

or did you mean the 2-3 actual hackers who sometimes credit their work to anon to give the group some measure of credibility as a hacker group ?They are not Anon, They are hacker who sometimes act as Anon. Anon is the herd of sheep who use LOIC and IRC to do DDOS attacks.

Maybe you thought Anon only know how to DDOS websites...

Now can you explain what is the method that they used to breach government websites, and steal thousands of private emails, documents, passwords? And a lot more of their high profile hacking activities?

Normal script kiddies won't be able to do that...you're just being jealous, sir.

HawkMan said,

YEah firing up LOIC is real hard to do.

or did you mean the 2-3 actual hackers who sometimes credit their work to anon to give the group some measure of credibility as a hacker group ?They are not Anon, They are hacker who sometimes act as Anon. Anon is the herd of sheep who use LOIC and IRC to do DDOS attacks.

Who are you to decide who is Anon? What does one need to do to be anon? Those 2-3 hackers you mention, why can't they be Anon? Also, it's not a group, you can't credit something to Anon, it's a movement.

I do not possess anything near the skills required to do what the members of Anon do. So obviously, they are not stupid people. However, I find it a pity that they choose such a dead-end pursuit. Take Sabu, for example. He's involved with these sorts of illegal activities, yet he has no job and 2 kids. What does that really say about his character? I mean, people on Neowin and other sites love to root these people on as they take it to “The Man”. Of course, once captured, as 1 by 1 they are being, it's no surprise that these folks will suddenly realize, “uh oh, I'm in deep crap here”, and want to save their own hides. Who wouldn't?

Anyway, I laugh at all you guys portraying these people are some sort of cult heroes. At the end of the day, Sabu and the rest are simply a bunch of losers.

In the grand scheme of things, they've accomplished nothing.

COKid said,
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I agree that it is sad that he got caught up with that "crowd" when obviously he is intelligent enough to perform all the "stunts" that they did, he could have had a good career in IT. The thing is he may have come from a crappy background and never got the opportunity to get a decent job etc.

Probably got bored at home and found a way to use his time ...

COKid said,
I do not possess anything near the skills required to do what the members of Anon do. .

Oh I'm pretty sure you're able to fire up LOIC, write in the irc address for the coordinated attack syncronization and click fire.

Anon are mere kids,w ith a few, very few exception, we're talking a handful of people who generally are smart enough to stay out of the way.

HawkMan said,

Oh I'm pretty sure you're able to fire up LOIC, write in the irc address for the coordinated attack syncronization and click fire.

Anon are mere kids,w ith a few, very few exception, we're talking a handful of people who generally are smart enough to stay out of the way.

Lulzsec did steal database information and the pandasecurity website hack cannot be done with what you described. Shows how much you know, tbh.

Anooxy said,

Lulzsec did steal database information and the pandasecurity website hack cannot be done with what you described. Shows how much you know, tbh.

Those were done by a few "elites" who actually know how to hack computer systems. The average Anonymous chap is, at best, a script kiddie.

LaserWraith said,

Those were done by a few "elites" who actually know how to hack computer systems. The average Anonymous chap is, at best, a script kiddie.

And since they're Anonymous, Your assumption , at best..is just that and has little to zero credibility like most other comments on this article, all hearsay.

As for the age of people who can do these various actions on networks and computers is irrelevant as there are many young people who are gifted in many aspects of computers in general and more.

LaserWraith said,

Those were done by a few "elites" who actually know how to hack computer systems. The average Anonymous chap is, at best, a script kiddie.

In which world is the majority full of geniuses? It's always a few who stand out, same goes for Anonymous.

COKid said,

In the grand scheme of things, they've accomplished nothing.

You have no clue what they uncovered in Arizona did you? I bet you don't even know 10% of what they've done, only what the media has blown up to ugly proportions about the big companies and government sites that have been accessed. You have also no clue of what was actually the main group of anonymous doing something, or another group claiming to be anonymous to give them a bad name. That is part of the problem of no one knowing who you are, others can claim to be you too, and there's no real way to say that they are not.

So far its been nothing but Kids doing these hackings. What does anonymous think they ate gaining? They won't get girls nor do will girls be impressed by this.

CMG_90 said,
So far its been nothing but Kids doing these hackings. What does anonymous think they ate gaining? They won't get girls nor do will girls be impressed by this.


<sarcasm> Yes you are completely correct!
These hacks take no skill at all.</sarcasm>

Do you have any idea what is takes to execute attacks like this? These are not just "kids" running scripts.

CMG_90 said,
So far its been nothing but Kids doing these hackings. What does anonymous think they ate gaining? They won't get girls nor do will girls be impressed by this.

Hmm, I am not sure about that. I know quite a few girls that find computer knowledge/technical knowledge really cool.

CMG_90 said,
So far its been nothing but Kids doing these hackings. What does anonymous think they ate gaining? They won't get girls nor do will girls be impressed by this.

Lulzsec's leader isn't a kid, actually. Don't joint the bandwagon calling every hacker a kid just because they get more attention than you.

Anooxy said,

Lulzsec's leader isn't a kid, actually. Don't joint the bandwagon calling every hacker a kid just because they get more attention than you.

Did I hit a soft spot? awwww I'm sorry /sarcasm

firey said,

Hmm, I am not sure about that. I know quite a few girls that find computer knowledge/technical knowledge really cool.

your mind doesnt count

russianmonk said,


<sarcasm> Yes you are completely correct!
These hacks take no skill at all.</sarcasm>

Do you have any idea what is takes to execute attacks like this? These are not just "kids" running scripts.


Explain why the ones who got arrested were around 16?

CMG_90 said,


Explain why the ones who got arrested were around 16?

Because they are the less experience ones who managed to get themselves busted perhaps?

CMG_90 said,
So far its been nothing but Kids doing these hackings. What does anonymous think they ate gaining? They won't get girls nor do will girls be impressed by this.

Hey troll, you even read the article?

As usually happens FBI menaced him to take his sons away.

This article is about a father of several sons. How many kids did you have as a "kid"? Oh wait, you still are a kid, and don't have any children. Furthermore, to have kids it requires real women does it not? Nevermind, you're too young to understand.

Sometimes I wonder if these security companies have any idea of what Anonymous is. There is no real structure to it from what I can grasp, so by arresting the leaders of Lulzsec you're not really doing much to Anonymous, you're just removing a couple of random people. To then say, "hurr hurr, you're in trouble now Anon" is pretty silly, they should have expected some form of retaliation.

Intrinsica said,
Sometimes I wonder if these security companies have any idea of what Anonymous is. There is no real structure to it from what I can grasp, so by arresting the leaders of Lulzsec you're not really doing much to Anonymous, you're just removing a couple of random people. To then say, "hurr hurr, you're in trouble now Anon" is pretty silly, they should have expected some form of retaliation.

Anonymous isn't an "organization", it's a movement. It has no "leader" as you say, but government just LOVE to go after figure heads... (Osama for example. Killing him won't stop anything, America just like to say "We killed osama").

Intrinsica said,
Sometimes I wonder if these security companies have any idea of what Anonymous is. There is no real structure to it from what I can grasp, so by arresting the leaders of Lulzsec you're not really doing much to Anonymous, you're just removing a couple of random people. To then say, "hurr hurr, you're in trouble now Anon" is pretty silly, they should have expected some form of retaliation.

To believe that the "improtant" core of anon the guys who actually get the rest of the sheep rolling aren't organized behind the scenes is rather optimistic to put it mildly. of course, they are. the average anon sheep doesn't know it of course as they core willl shift around so as to not appear to be one coherent ruling unit, but they are there.

It's also quite evident. Look at some of the "anon" attacks that haven't been supported by the core leadership. despite havign massive support amidst anon, they can't get the ball rolling and the attacks fail catastrophically. yet when the core chooses a target that has far less support within the anon community , the attacks always succeed. they are simply enough, real and virtual persons to achieve a self sustaining critical reaction in the group.

Xerax said,
Anonymous isn't an "organization", it's a movement. It has no "leader" as you say, but government just LOVE to go after figure heads... (Osama for example. Killing him won't stop anything, America just like to say "We killed osama").
Yet, if they take down enough high-level people within the organization then it will become an empty husk. Kids will stop downloading their DDoS software, and the organization will wither and die.

Intrinsica said,

Woah. Take a chill pill, man. Everyone is entitled to their opinions, even if you don't agree with them. Personally I think that your over reaction to his comment makes you look like the simpleton as it doesn't present an option for discussion in a calm and civil manner.
Not everything is worthy of a calm and civil discussion, and not everyone is entitled to their opinions. To take the immediately obvious road: Hitler and Muslim extremists.

There are tons of similar examples with far less dangerous implications.

As for providing a point of discussion: Anonymous is providing the very reason for the US Congress to pass the very laws that they are supposedly fighting against. Not to mention that they hurt very real people with the releases of usernames and passwords, and not these institutions. How many people still care about Sony getting hacked versus caring about their personal details getting lost into the wild (because, admittedly, they use the same username and password)?

A group like Anonymous cannot be both for the people and against these entities when they are hurting the people with pretty much every act that is not reactionary (e.g., the stunts they pull when people invest in stopping them). Until they stop dumping user details, then this will always be the case.

For everyone "for" Anonymous: it's easy to support an ideal and to ignore the result of such actions. It's easy to ignore something without any "skin in the game." It's a quite different story when that equation changes. Fortunately, I have not been personally effected by Anonymous, but I fear for the day that some random database gets dumped with my email address, or maybe even a password that I share with some other website (though not my finances). And, more importantly, I feel for those that have been effected even as many of you cheer on Anonymous for being just as bad as _the_ bad guys.

Wouldn't it arguably be better that they do it, make the announcement to the world, and allow people the chance to change their passwords? As opposed to those who can make the breach, steal what they want, and not tell a soul?

Just think a lot of what they do could be a LOT worse...