Anonymous targets Sony over GeoHot suit

Online hacktivist group Anonymous has set it sights on Sony in retaliation for the company's legal pursuit of two PlayStation 3 hackers. This marks a continuation of Operation Payback, which first gained momentum after targeting companies accused of betraying WikiLeaks.

"Congratulations, Sony," begins the post on the group's website. "You now have now received the undivided attention of Anonymous. Your recent legal action against our follow hackers, Geohot and Graf_Chokolo, has not only alarmed us, it has been deemed wholly unforgivable."

The Japanese firm took legal action earlier this year against George Hotz, better known as GeoHot, for jailbreaking its PlayStation 3 console. Sony stated that GeoHot's supposed actions violated the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) and the Computer Fraud Abuse Act (CFAA). Alexander Egorenkov (Graf_Chokolo) is also being sued by Sony for alleged hacking.

"You have now abused the judicial system in an attempt to censor information on how your products work. You have victimised your own customers merely for possessing and sharing information, and continue to target every person who seeks this information. In doing so you have violated the privacy of thousands.

"This is the information they were willing to teach the world for free. The very same information you wish to suppress for sake of corporate greed and complete control of the users.

"Now you will experience the wrath of Anonymous. You saw a hornets nest, and stuck your penises in it. You must face the consequences of your actions, Anonymous style. Knowledge is Free. We are Anonymous. We are Legion. We do not Forgive. We do not forget. Expect us."

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I don't care about either side, all i want to see is the users of the internet finally standing up for something and actually winning a battle against some big corporation. the cause isn't as important as the meaning this has for us. in the message they say citizens of the internet, I like that and want it to flourish.

Funny how Anon picked on the one company with almost as many Fanboys as Apple. Sony Fanboys are as gullible and lobotomized as the scientologist.

The sony fanboys will be all right and won't die if there PSN connection is slow or broke for a few days.

Much better then having to move around the world and go into hiding from Sony lawyers like geohot.

Sony deserves this big time, they have crapped on every gamer this gen from the start with their $599 price tag, telling us to work two jobs to afford it, lieing about specs like having 2 hdmi connections etc.

Sony had this coming, don't let the blind loyal Sony Fanboys get in the way.

swanlee said,
Funny how Anon picked on the one company with almost as many Fanboys as Apple. Sony Fanboys are as gullible and lobotomized as the scientologist.

The sony fanboys will be all right and won't die if there PSN connection is slow or broke for a few days.

Much better then having to move around the world and go into hiding from Sony lawyers like geohot.

Sony deserves this big time, they have crapped on every gamer this gen from the start with their $599 price tag, telling us to work two jobs to afford it, lieing about specs like having 2 hdmi connections etc.

Sony had this coming, don't let the blind loyal Sony Fanboys get in the way.

Shut up.

Spirit Dave said,

Shut up.

Exactly

Sony fans are just completely blind to everything, so close to the blind ignorant loyalty to Apple fans it is scarey. If Apple and Sony ever produced anything together these people would just melt in place.

swanlee said,
Much better then having to move around the world and go into hiding from Sony lawyers like geohot.

Sony deserves this big time, they have crapped on every gamer this gen from the start with their $599 price tag, telling us to work two jobs to afford it, lieing about specs like having 2 hdmi connections etc.

Few things here:

1. Geohotz isn't hiding. He's spending his luxurious time in South America (if he isn't back by now from 'possibly' using your donations)
*Frankly I don't see how someone has time to spend on vacation when he's being sued in court? Unless you just only need to appear on the court dates assigned therefore I guess that's why (I'm guessing he isn't feeling scared crapless about being sued).

2. No one is pulling your leg to go buy a game system. You don't need the very latest console as there are new ones every 4 years or less. Your logic is flawed in the sense that if you can't afford a Ferrari you'll go break into one instead? Or in this case, hotwire it through cars computer systems to unlock the doors.

jorel009 said,

.....you are kind of making his point mate.

Not really. His point was complete rubbish. Your point can't be validated at any stage if you're talking an invalid point.

Fanboys don't exist. They're an internet creation. Every single person on the internet could be called a fanboy about something. The SECOND you defend a company you're a fanboy on the internet. I haven't ONCE in real life ever been called or heard anyone called a fanboy. His entire statement was a sweeping statement about something he can't even begin to understand the concept of.

Sony deserve what they're getting? The guy clearly knows nothing about how the world works. So instead of trying to fill his tiny little mind with information about why he's wrong, I figured I'd just tell him to shut up, because it was about as worthwhile a response as his original post.

The fact is, these guys ruined gaming for the masses. At no point did they hurt Sony like people want to believe. And at no point will they stop Sony selling product and controlling it how they wish. I just feel like Anonymous have gone out of their way to specifically hurt the gamers here. Nothing more. They're not defending GeoHotz. They're simply attacking the general gaming public. And trying to justify it with their loose excuse based on helping some no hoper who is getting his ass kicked.

These guys are just a silly little group of internet warriors with too much time on their unemployed hands.

I've had very mixed feelings about the entire situation now. I did not agree with opening the door to hacks, pirated games, etc - but that's Sony's fault for not securing their product or releasing updates quicker.

I DON'T like the fact that Sony is in all actual reality, renting our console to us. I don't like the fact that advertised features can be removed at will. Is this our fault? YES

Why? Because we don't read the EULA or the Legal Agreements and tear into whatever product we want without reading the fine print.

If one million people bought the PS3 and then returned it because they knew they were renting it, it would hurt Sony. Sony as well as other companies bank on the fact that you WILL NOT read the fine print (i.e. a Belkin Surge Protector, in order to file a loss and get refunded for the equipment they supposedly protect you have to have the ORIGINAL receipt - so if it's three years old who really can find that receipt?)

Btw ...

They did this for themselves. Not for Geohot, not your for or I .... they did it for themselves. Like they did every other act.

They are giggling like little schoolgirls right now. I relate these people to dictators. Not to rebels. These guys are the dictators. One flick of a switch and they decide who has what service.

Spirit Dave said,
Btw ...

They did this for themselves. Not for Geohot, not your for or I .... they did it for themselves. Like they did every other act.

They are giggling like little schoolgirls right now. I relate these people to dictators. Not to rebels. These guys are the dictators. One flick of a switch and they decide who has what service.

Yep. They think they are entitled to represent "everyone". They certainly are not representing me (a PS3 gamer).

Nikos_GR said,
How funny,
You hate Sony, yet you buy and mess anything it makes. Then when they hit back you complain ))))

It's not just Sony, this has been done with many other products like the iDevices by Apple.

I guess you could say that people should stop buying Sony products, but what if a certain game you want is only made for the PS3? You'll have to get a PS3 if you want to play it.

I'm sure more people would be upset about what is going on if they actually KNEW what was going on. I would say 95% of the PSN users have no clue who GeoHot is and don't know who Anonymous is or why Sony is suing the crap out of people or why people are revolting against Sony.

These kinds of news don't make it onto the 7oclock local news. And most young people don't watch the news anyways. Maybe if they other people knew what was going on, and were informed by an unbiased source, then they could come up with their own decisions and either support or be against sony.

Maybe then the customers could change the way Sony thinks.

MidTxWRX said,

It's not just Sony, this has been done with many other products like the iDevices by Apple.

I guess you could say that people should stop buying Sony products, but what if a certain game you want is only made for the PS3? You'll have to get a PS3 if you want to play it.

No you see this is the difference between playground antics and adults. Adults walk away, they take that they cannot play the game because they have principles and stand for them.

Damn it, sheeple who bleet that they have to buy something, even though they hate the company/product are the whole problem!

schubb2003 said,

No you see this is the difference between playground antics and adults. Adults walk away, they take that they cannot play the game because they have principles and stand for them.

Damn it, sheeple who bleet that they have to buy something, even though they hate the company/product are the whole problem!

If only the "founding fathers" could hear this lol.

Give up just because someone else made the rules. Sony is a company for the customers. They're here to make products that, while the make them money, are supposed to please their customers.

MidTxWRX said,

If only the "founding fathers" could hear this lol.

Give up just because someone else made the rules. Sony is a company for the customers. They're here to make products that, while the make them money, are supposed to please their customers.


lol trust me, the FF's are rolling in their graves as we speak.

MidTxWRX said,

If only the "founding fathers" could hear this lol.

Give up just because someone else made the rules. Sony is a company for the customers. They're here to make products that, while the make them money, are supposed to please their customers.

I may be confused on your response...I am not saying give up, you obviously don't understand economics. If you don't buy the system and/or the game, the company doesn't make money.

THAT is the only thing that a company cares about.

If consumers stop buying their sheeple toys because they don't respect a company's practices, they don't make money.

If they don't make money, they don't get dividends to pay shareholders.

If they don't make money, the company is screwed(assuming a publicly traded company).

lol waste of time, this will not amount to anything Anonymous was a great idea but there standards have drop!! Sony are protecting there hardware, don't like what they are doing then get rid of your Sony device

lflashl said,
lol waste of time, this will not amount to anything Anonymous was a great idea but there standards have drop!! Sony are protecting there hardware, don't like what they are doing then get rid of your Sony device

*their*

lflashl said,
lol waste of time, this will not amount to anything Anonymous was a great idea but there standards have drop!! Sony are protecting there hardware, don't like what they are doing then get rid of your Sony device

ugh why are there so many misinformed ppl out today? sony is in the wrong here. they are not protecting their hardware, the original tos for the ps3 allowed installing your own os, or unlocking the system for home-brew applications. the two "hackers" in question have done nothing illegal. but due to judicial loop holes, sony is taking them down. if i want to install a linux distro on my ps3, or install a home-brew app....i am going to ****ing do it!

jorel009 said,

ugh why are there so many misinformed ppl out today? sony is in the wrong here. they are not protecting their hardware, the original tos for the ps3 allowed installing your own os, or unlocking the system for home-brew applications. the two "hackers" in question have done nothing illegal. but due to judicial loop holes, sony is taking them down. if i want to install a linux distro on my ps3, or install a home-brew app....i am going to ****ing do it!

You could not install home brew apps on the XMB. Only through OtherOS. Sony was very liberal with that until the hackers started to exploit OtherOS in order run unsigned software in the XMB (pirated games). Since the flaw was in the hardware (even Geohot said it couldn't be patched), Sony removed the feature altogether.

So, Sony gave a few inches of freedom, the hackers tried to take a few yards, and Sony took it away.

Just a question, what is so great about Anonymous? Everyone can do ddos. Are they great because they have a lot of friends or maybe great because his house is full of computers?

They were not guys, but just one guy at Germany. And got arrested on this. Google it.

The same will happen with the Anonymous suckas!

reminds me of some guys that owned Valve..

They broke into their servers and proved they were collecting more info than they would admit.
also couple years before that the same people basicly stole the Half-Life 2 source code.
proving that when valve said the game was ready they were flat out lying.

there is a whole lot more you can do to a company than ddos their web site lol

"You have now abused the judicial system in an attempt to censor information on how your products work" Oh right and they haven't abused the TOS when they bought Sony products am I right? Also, when has Sony done anything wrong than protect the products they sell? People try to justify if I buy it, I can do anything to it ignoring the fact that certain products come with TOS which they clearly ignore or even bothered to read. Mind you I don't mind personal mods for own purposes but when you're all of a sudden giving access to anything besides homebrew then making profit out of them, then you got something wrong going on.

I also think 4*** related anon has made this generations of kids mostly retarded/trollers and only getting worse. U mad?

Morisato said,
giving access to anything besides homebrew

4***

Why did you censor that? How childish. And who provided whom with what? Just because someone creates a tool that can be used for evil as well as good doesn't mean that the creator is liable for the actions of those who use it for evil. The tool itself is neutral - it's all in how it's used and the person using it.

Knowledge Bomb said,

Why did you censor that? How childish. And who provided whom with what? Just because someone creates a tool that can be used for evil as well as good doesn't mean that the creator is liable for the actions of those who use it for evil. The tool itself is neutral - it's all in how it's used and the person using it.

I wouldn't want to taint the untainted. As for the tool itself, I have no qualms about it but the majority of the users who do use it is pretty apparent of the use of it not being on good terms. The only good ones would be the ones making apps for it where as the users using it well... lets just say intentions aren't as good as you would think.

helios01 said,
Sony will sue them now, after forcing the ISPs, Google, Youtube, etc to disclose their personal information.

And that is something authorities can't do against people who are performing essentially illegal acts? If Anon is going against a site or entity that is important to you, as opposed one you blindly hate, then I'm sure you will care a bit more.

Brian Miller said,
Sony had it coming. I have no sympathy for Sony.
For how many years had Sony raped you?

They haven't been raping me... You need to come clean with your horror stories.

NeoTrunks said,

They haven't been raping me... You need to come clean with your horror stories.

Does putting a PS controller in the end point of biliary excretion while have the vibrate function activated count as a horror story?

Brian Miller said,
Sony had it coming. I have no sympathy for Sony.
For how many years had Sony raped you?

Not for Anonymous to say. They can f**k off. We didn't ask them to fight any battles.

NeoTrunks said,

They haven't been raping me... You need to come clean with your horror stories.

Yea it's not rape when sony fanboys willingly let them smack them around and take them for a ride.

Seriously sony fans are so blind they would willingly let sony screw them over at any point.

swanlee said,

Yea it's not rape when sony fanboys willingly let them smack them around and take them for a ride.

Seriously sony fans are so blind they would willingly let sony screw them over at any point.

I can't believe Sony fans pay for a games console that they enjoy playing on and are allowed to play with friends over the internet on for free. Sony is totally taking them for a ride and they can't even see it. WHAT IDIOTS!

swanlee said,

Yea it's not rape when sony fanboys willingly let them smack them around and take them for a ride.

Seriously sony fans are so blind they would willingly let sony screw them over at any point.

Company puts out a product I want for a price that seems fair to me. I buy. It includes services at a fair price to me. I use their services.

I bought the systems to play the games. I use the services to play the games and watch movies. That is the only relationship that I have with Sony. In fact, you can replace "Company" up there with Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo, and others in the past. How am I being taken advantage of?

The only ones screwing over the legitimate paying customers are Anonymous.

Edited by NeoTrunks, Apr 5 2011, 8:00pm :

Anonymous are a bunch of whinny kids, sure they can slow a website down for a day or two but in the long run they cant change anything. Everything they do is basically pointless...

Anon FTW.

Also no one knows who Anon are.. so who cares who they are? They are obviously better then most Multi Billion dollar companies @ security, and they do it for free.

Epic0range said,
Anon FTW.

Also no one knows who Anon are.. so who cares who they are? They are obviously better then most Multi Billion dollar companies @ security, and they do it for free.

I'm sure you really don't care. Until they decide to cripple your bank's online system just as you have to make that life and death payment (metaphorically speaking but literally is not out of the question).


And you really think they are about "security".

Eddo89 said,

I'm sure you really don't care. Until they decide to cripple your bank's online system just as you have to make that life and death payment (metaphorically speaking but literally is not out of the question).


And you really think they are about "security".

Surely, if it get's to that point, it's the bank's fault for not having strong security on their systems to protect the users. Either that or they really fawked over people and ****ed people off.

Kind of like what happens in real like when you **** someone off and they come after you, except that since the government will not go after these companies, someone else has to do it.

MidTxWRX said,

Surely, if it get's to that point, it's the bank's fault for not having strong security on their systems to protect the users. Either that or they really fawked over people and ****ed people off.

Kind of like what happens in real like when you **** someone off and they come after you, except that since the government will not go after these companies, someone else has to do it.

I'm sorry, did you just fly over the important part of his statement? The life and death payment? Doesn't actually MATTER who's fault it is then does it?

One day someone is going to find out who they are, and expose a ton of them. I 100% guarantee it. And doing stuff like this is very illegal and they WILL get badly disciplined. They are very very stupid little people to think they will get away with it. Even the best hackers get found out eventually. Oh, and btw ... the 'best' hackers aren't in Anonymous. Ok? Remember that.

oh great they want to take down the playstation store. Who are they helping by doing this? If they mess with PSN im sure people will not be happy.

Doli said,
oh great they want to take down the playstation store. Who are they helping by doing this? If they mess with PSN im sure people will not be happy.

...and who will the people complain to?
...Anonymous or Sony?

MidTxWRX said,

...and who will the people complain to?
...Anonymous or Sony?

That's completely irrelevant. Sony can afford this. That's not the point. It's not fair. Anonymous are using PS3 owners as pawns in their little playground spat. And I for one hope they make more mistakes and more of the little di*ks are ass kicked hard. They're out of line, they're not funny, and they're helping the argument for lack of freedom on the internet. And if they keep doing this kind of crap, they will find the internet being controlled a damn sight more. And who do we blame? Well, they get off scott free because they're the Coward Group.

That's all they are.

Anonymous are a bit pathetic. All they do is bring down a target hompage for a few hours and that is basically that. The hompage is up and running the next few hours. Their method is weak unless they find a way to maintain a prolonged DDoS which would cripple a targeted services for days instead of hours. .

MindTrickz said,
Anonymous are a bit pathetic. All they do is bring down a target hompage for a few hours and that is basically that. The hompage is up and running the next few hours. Their method is weak unless they find a way to maintain a prolonged DDoS which would cripple a targeted services for days instead of hours. .

Clearly you think hours doesn't hurt a company, but it does.

1) As some comments don't realize, this group is not to be taken lightly, as they have a history of smacking corporations fairly easily.

2) This does not mean they would target PSN or the gaming servers of Sony to hurt gamers. There are a lot of other ways to cause Sony a bit of pain. However, their online games are probably the most practical way to get their message across, so don't be surprised to see messages in the sky in EQII.

3) Sony kind of has had thing coming for several years. They started wiping their feet on customers and employees going back several years now.

Some of the biggest and most egregious gaming scandals have been perpetuated by Sony. SWG CU/NGE, and their complete lack of concern for their players and customers that has extended to every game since and still is something they are known for in the PC Online gaming world. They don't listen to customers, instead they try to copy whatever is making money at the time.

Even their PS3 design process was a slap to PlayStation fans, even though the fans didn't know it at the time, as Sony's concessions on the product were amazing to watch as a technical engineer. Even the last minute GPU choice, that they knew would be a full generation behind the XBox 360 in features didn't matter, they just wanted the cheapest route to getting it on the street.

Their shove of BluRay was also at the expense of customers, as they didn't care if users would be watching loading screens or care that developers would have to load a mass portion of games to the HD just to be usable. 25-50gb of data is worthless if you can't access it fast enough to fufill the use of the data.

And then they removed something they used to sell a lot of PS3s, the 'Other OS' feature. Which they touted and marketed to customers, making its removal bait and switch and a slap to customers.

So a hacker works on re-enabling the 'other os' feature, Sony then shoves their legal department down the person's throat, essentially distroying their life financially.

I have little respect for Sony anymore, at least the upper management and their entire gaming division.

LiquidSolstice said,
The only "history" they have is DDoSing. They don't do much more than that.

What about the public protests on scientology with everyone wearing V for Vendetta masks?...

So in order to hurt Sony, they are just going to hurt the innocent players? Just like Geohot, in order to hurt Sony, he broke the encryption which in the end just hurt the players who just want to have some enjoyable free time on PSN.

All these guys are idiots and will get no sympathy from me.

Benjy91 said,
So the collection of 15 year old basement dwelling neckbeards from 4chan are upset?

You're the one calling people names...

Just saying.

Uhyve said,

You're the one calling people names...

Just saying.

True ... he is ...

but they're the collection of 15 year old basement dwelling neckbeards from 4chan. I'd rather be in his position than sweating through clothes I can no longer get off without having them cut off.

lets hope that they will cover their tracks. cant imagine the wrath that Sony will unleash on that one guy. I always hate seeing examples made of people to the fullest extent.

scurbox said,
lets hope that they will cover their tracks. cant imagine the wrath that Sony will unleash on that one guy. I always hate seeing examples made of people to the fullest extent.

I hope they may mistakes. Japanese corporation ripping pathetic little hacks is fun I HATE this stupid bunch of c**ts ...

Just makes me wonder sometimes if we never really had these ridiculous systems, rules, and regulations. I guess it's just nature's intent of endless fighting on who's better than the other. I know they put some of us on a leash, and certainly you can be against it. But being aggressive doesn't really make any differences.

UndergroundWire said,
I love that this group exists. I hope they shut down the Playstation Network for hours at a time.

I'm sure the innocent PSN users share your sentiment.

Sheesh. And you call Sony greedy/selfish? Hypocrisy at its finest.

UndergroundWire said,
I hope they shut down the Playstation Network for hours at a time.

Yeah, **** over people who haven't done anything wrong. That's really brilliant.

LiquidSolstice said,

I'm sure the innocent PSN users share your sentiment.

Sheesh. And you call Sony greedy/selfish? Hypocrisy at its finest.

**** em, honestly.

LiquidSolstice said,

I'm sure the innocent PSN users share your sentiment.

Sheesh. And you call Sony greedy/selfish? Hypocrisy at its finest.


When did he call Sony greedy/selfish? Perhaps you meant to respond to someone else's post. Whoops!

LiquidSolstice said,

I'm sure the innocent PSN users share your sentiment.

Sheesh. And you call Sony greedy/selfish? Hypocrisy at its finest.

In the age of the internet this is how people now protest. It will get the headlines they need to make the issues more public..

So-Unreal said,
What else has this famous group done cause this is the 1st I have heard of them?

They basically throw toys out of the pram whenever something doesn't go their way.

So what are they going to do? Stop buying PS3's? Grow up, get a life, if you don't like what they do with the PS3, go buy an Xbox 360, I don't understand, it's their console they'll try to do what they can to protect it even if it's in illegal ways or things that aren't really illegal for someone to do, but WHO CARES, buy another console. Or I guess I just don't understand the whole issue and I'm stupid

Lucas said,
So what are they going to do? Stop buying PS3's? Grow up, get a life, if you don't like what they do with the PS3, go buy an Xbox 360, I don't understand, it's their console they'll try to do what they can to protect it even if it's in illegal ways or things that aren't really illegal for someone to do, but WHO CARES, buy another console. Or I guess I just don't understand the whole issue and I'm stupid

I'm guessing you aren't aware of what Anonymous does?

Nimec said,
Yeah, it's a bit silly.

I guess everyone can be a tough guy on the internet though, right?

The only difference between Anonymous and your typical Internet bully is that Anonymous have successfully shutdown sites for hours at a time and the bullies just say something mean with no real action behind it.

Auditor said,
Good job... go and screw these greedy corporations.

Yes. Represent the gaming world by shutting them out of their own service. What an awesome idea.

Idiots.

LiquidSolstice said,

Yes. Represent the gaming world by shutting them out of their own service. What an awesome idea.

Idiots.


Sure, Anonymous represents the gaming world. And I thought it was net neutrality and freedom of speech! Boy, I was wrong.

Auditor said,
Good job... go and screw these greedy corporations.

Yeah screw 'em, just don't take down PSN please....