Anonymous targets Vatican, says “a storm is coming”

Earlier this week, hacker group Anonymous hijacked websites belonging to security software company Panda Labs, and left a message for former comrade Sabu – the head of splinter group LulzSec, who was recently revealed to have been working with the FBI against them.

The Italian outpost of Anonymous then went on to target the Vatican, with a DDoS (distributed denial of service) attack that resulted in both its main website, and that of its official news service, L’Osservatore Romano, going offline for several hours, with traffic being redirected to other sites carrying messages from the cyber-activist group.

“Today, Anonymous has decided to put your site under siege in response to your doctrine, liturgy and the absurd and anachronistic rules that your profit-making organization spreads around the world”, said the group in a statement. Reuters reported that the group went on to accuse the Roman Catholic Church of numerous wrongdoings throughout history, and of interfering in the domestic affairs of Italy on a daily basis.

The New York Post reported that Anonymous was unambiguous in emphasising that this was an attack on the institution, not on the religion or its followers: “This attack is not against the Christian religion or the faithful around the world, but against the corrupt Roman Apostolic Church.”

Tweets from Anonymous point to these attacks being just the beginning of a much larger month-long campaign of action. The @YourAnonNews account tweeted:

> Trust us. You think you've seen the full muscles of #Anonymous up to now? Nah, you ain't seen NOTHING yet. Get ready. #March2012

> Keep your eyes to the horizon. Looks like a storm is coming. #March2012 #Anonymous

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At this point, prison isn't enough for these idiots. If they ever catch them I hope they get the death penalty. I'm sick of this spoiled, evil little brats. They have NO MORAL COMPASS and their only desire is to destroy. That's it. They don't deserve to exist.

Well, suppose it is safer than flipping off the feds...

Then again, it seems the whole point of their attacks *might* just be to provoke an out-sized response? It's not an unheard of strategy after all. I have no idea whether there's any truth to it or not -- I'm not one for conspiracy theories myself -- but I'm reading more & more speculation that at least some of the anon actions are directed &/or inspired by a government or governments, the idea being that citizens would then ask for the sorts of Internet controls we've all been dreading. Attacking the church could be seen as fitting into that sort of scheme, *if* of course such a scheme exists...

Staying as non-political as possible, there's a bit of conflict in the US currently between the admin & the Catholic Church. In an election year the admin is doing all it can to both repair damaged relations [Catholics vote too], & re-frame the issues in a PR campaign to stop the spread of anti-administration feelings. At the same time, as we're all aware, the current US gov is doing all it can to put Internet controls in place. Using this attack as partial justification for those controls, they could, likely would spin it, saying look how we're protecting "your" church -- we wouldn't do that if we were anti-Catholic now would we?

But that's just FWIW...

Oh, please! Taking down vatican.va isn't going to do anything but get a few headlines, which worked (getting headlines).

The Catholic Church is an institution that's bigger and far more powerful than "Anonymous".

And BTW, Guy Fawkes was a Catholic.

How pathetic. How many people actually go to the Catholic Church Website to do anything? At most, it's a small part of an outreach or transparency campaign. Religion existed long before the internet, and this is just another example of Anonymous thinking it's something more than a fart in the wind, in the grand scheme of things.

They should go after Barclays next; the news recently hit that they've managed to avoid paying half a billion pounds in tax. Do Vodafone too; they're still tax dodging themselves, and they owe over £6 billion!

MightyJordan said,
They should go after Barclays next; the news recently hit that they've managed to avoid paying half a billion pounds in tax. Do Vodafone too; they're still tax dodging themselves, and they owe over £6 billion!

Problem with that sort of thing is that sooner or later vigilantes Always wind up going after the innocent. It can of course seem just & all that, particularly when you're part of the mob, but justice is rarely served & the collateral damage can be horrendous. I think that's why most of us put up with our justice systems, as imperfect as they are -- the alternatives have proven to be so much worse.

I think it's pretty sad how anonymous constantly use the guy folks mask and imagery from the film V for Vendetta(probably haven't even read the comic). And their quote "a storm is coming" a line from Chris Nolan's Batman films...

Like those things are the height of intellectual thinking.

Lamp0 said,
I think it's pretty sad how anonymous constantly use the guy folks mask and imagery from the film V for Vendetta(probably haven't even read the comic). And their quote "a storm is coming" a line from Chris Nolan's Batman films...

Like those things are the height of intellectual thinking.


Represents them pretty well methinks...


GS:mac

Why do people keep referring to anonymous as a group? I'm sure there are regulars that frequently join in on these types of things but it's not a collection of people with an agenda. Someone somewhere picks something based on the ideas held in anonymous and they get a bunch of other people to go for it.

Zeck said,
Why do people keep referring to anonymous as a group? I'm sure there are regulars that frequently join in on these types of things but it's not a collection of people with an agenda. Someone somewhere picks something based on the ideas held in anonymous and they get a bunch of other people to go for it.

One guess would be that most people feel it's very hard to get everyone moving in the same direction without some sort of leadership at the helm -- without one or more leaders a lynch mob is just a riot.

Another guess would be that without some sort of leadership &/or organization, no matter how informal, anon would be attacking everyone's exes rather than singling out sites like that belonging to the Catholic church.

come on interpol/FBI/<international government agencies> hurry and find all these pre-pubescent morons and bang them some place nice for bubba to stretch their little botties wide open, tired of reading about these twats. Dont these tools realise the more they attack, the more likely the internets gonna get nailed down so nothing is "anonymous" anymore, and as far as USA telling other nations whats right or not, whats new??
Been like that since ooooh 1917 and guess what the internet was an american idea and is owned by them...FACT (whether we like it or not)

Mando said,
come on interpol/FBI/<international government agencies> hurry and find all these pre-pubescent morons and bang them some place nice for bubba to stretch their little botties wide open, tired of reading about these twats. Dont these tools realise the more they attack, the more likely the internets gonna get nailed down so nothing is "anonymous" anymore, and as far as USA telling other nations whats right or not, whats new??
Been like that since ooooh 1917 and guess what the internet was an american idea and is owned by them...FACT (whether we like it or not)

All initial research was done in the UK. America just took it and made it "commercial". Also the Computer is a UK invention does that mean we can tell everyone in the world what they are allowed todo with it? No, because that would be retarded.

Xerax said,

All initial research was done in the UK. America just took it and made it "commercial". Also the Computer is a UK invention does that mean we can tell everyone in the world what they are allowed todo with it? No, because that would be retarded.

1941- Konrad Zuse - Z1 Computer ..German. Get your facts straight. Also the Atanasoff-Berry computer designed @ Iowa State University was typically regognized at the "first true computer". Facts do matter, and you should research before you spout off.

Back in the day, there were no USA, UK...sucks arguments. NO fanboys, no morons like you, then something changed ..oh yea the school system's started not teaching you "kids" how to learn. Now, people like you spout off without knowing anything.

Oh, and while you are at it http://bit.ly/xinCcE

I'll re-post this, the computer was not invented in the UK.

TrollH8TR said,

1941- Konrad Zuse - Z1 Computer ..German. Get your facts straight. Also the Atanasoff-Berry computer designed @ Iowa State University was typically regognized at the "first true computer". Facts do matter, and you should research before you spout off.

Back in the day, there were no USA, UK...sucks arguments. NO fanboys, no morons like you, then something changed ..oh yea the school system's started not teaching you "kids" how to learn. Now, people like you spout off without knowing anything.

Oh, and while you are at it http://bit.ly/xinCcE

I'll re-post this, the computer was not invented in the UK.

Click this link for find out that you are wrong. the Internet was developed @ MIT in the USA.. http://bit.ly/xinCcE

Xerax said,

All initial research was done in the UK. America just took it and made it "commercial". Also the Computer is a UK invention does that mean we can tell everyone in the world what they are allowed todo with it? No, because that would be retarded.


Not only that, but the name... internet, short for.. International Network.
The first connection of that International Network was between 2 universities, IIRC Harvard and an university in Leiden (holland). Been a while since i looked all this stuff up. But before this connection, there where only national networks, the US had one, but at that time, so did russia, UK, holland, germany and many other countries. (using similar or somewhat different techniques and mainly military only).

KomaWeiss said,
What about the paedophilia there?

What about all the hospitals, clinics, & humanitarian stuff?

Whenever/wherever you have a large collection of people, some of them will be criminals or perverts etc... we're simply not all perfect. Where the Catholic church has gotten into the legal trouble you mention it's because the Church itself didn't do enough to root those folks out & turn them over to legal authorities.

These kids have been watching too much fringe. Anon you are not William Bell. Get over your self.and get a girlfriend.

About time! All religeous leaders are or have been dodgy in the past. I hope they release some details!

Fus10n said,
they might leak emails and stuff about the sexual abuse and such

this would be quite interesting. pedo-priests might actually be held accountable for once instead of just being moved to another church

wahoospa said,
Who made Anonymous the law enforcer of the world?

The same source from which America gets the same idea that it can preside over the internet, dictate to other countries how their copyright legislation should look etc...

ramesees said,

The same source from which America gets the same idea that it can preside over the internet, dictate to other countries how their copyright legislation should look etc...

Uh ... no. The government is elected into power and the system, while flawed, makes you a much safer person than Anonymous ever could. They don't know anything more than a bit of schoolboy hacking. You may not like how the USA governs certain parts of the society you live in, but without it, you'd not have any form of justice system, any roads, any healthcare packages (I know a lot is privatised, but you're dismissing too much because you desperately need your 'freedom' online).

Anonymous are a bunch of stupid little morons doing nothing. They're a non event now. They had a bit of publicity and everyone got excited. I can't remember hearing them mentioned any time lately outside of geeky ass tech sites like Neowin. It's about time they got over themselves.

ramesees said,

The same source from which America gets the same idea that it can preside over the internet, dictate to other countries how their copyright legislation should look etc...


you sire are a bit of a fool, the Internet IS owned by USA its their invention.

Mando said,

you sire are a bit of a fool, the Internet IS owned by USA its their invention.

No, It was a UK invention. Just like the Computer. Both were stolen by the US.

Xerax said,

No, It was a UK invention. Just like the Computer. Both were stolen by the US.

It was open tech designed by people who wanted to make things to make the world a better place. I'm from the UK and I don't even try that ... sure, your statement has some truth but there was no 'theft' going on by the USA. The thing about the internet is this ... you can't own something that sprawls the world across a set of computers. But you can own certain things. Servers in specific locations, the technology that is used on some of those servers, and the cabling laid down to move that data around. Thing is... I don't walk around the streets feeling like I'm not free... so why should a policed internet be any worse? A 12 year old kid can't walk into a porn store, so why should he be able to access porn tube sites? There's a lot of great stuff online that should be free. But there's a s**t ton of grotesque things online that people shouldn't be exposed to ... child pornography, graphic violent imagery, pirate software etc. These things SHOULD be policed. Sorry, but that's my view. If you're doing nothing wrong, you'd never have anything to worry about. Unfortunately, people all have different ideas about what's wrong and what's right.

Spirit Dave said,

It was open tech designed by people who wanted to make things to make the world a better place. I'm from the UK and I don't even try that ... sure, your statement has some truth but there was no 'theft' going on by the USA. The thing about the internet is this ... you can't own something that sprawls the world across a set of computers. But you can own certain things. Servers in specific locations, the technology that is used on some of those servers, and the cabling laid down to move that data around. Thing is... I don't walk around the streets feeling like I'm not free... so why should a policed internet be any worse? A 12 year old kid can't walk into a porn store, so why should he be able to access porn tube sites? There's a lot of great stuff online that should be free. But there's a s**t ton of grotesque things online that people shouldn't be exposed to ... child pornography, graphic violent imagery, pirate software etc. These things SHOULD be policed. Sorry, but that's my view. If you're doing nothing wrong, you'd never have anything to worry about. Unfortunately, people all have different ideas about what's wrong and what's right.

Oh I know, but It wasn't an "US" invention. If anything it was "shared". The US just can't get enough of "borrowing" other people's ideas/hard work.

Xerax said,

No, It was a UK invention. Just like the Computer. Both were stolen by the US.

1941- Konrad Zuse - Z1 Computer ..German. Get your facts straight. Also the Atanasoff-Berry computer designed @ Iowa State University was typically regognized at the "first true computer". Facts do matter, and you should research before you spout off.

Back in the day, there were no USA, UK...sucks arguments. NO fanboys, no morons like you, then something changed ..oh yea the school system's started not teaching you "kids" how to learn. Now, people like you spout off without knowing anything.

Oh, and while you are at it http://bit.ly/xinCcE

ramesees said,

The same source from which America gets the same idea that it can preside over the internet...

You mean anonymous were elected? I'll need to see some evidence to back up that claim.

If this helps to get those pedo-priests 'our little secret chat-room' down: great. If it helps to get the maffia-bank they own down: great. If it helps to get one believer thinking for him/herself in stead of believing their politicaly/economicaly inspired cr*p: very great.
Perhaps Anonymous can find a way to execute a DDoG (Distributed Denial of god) ;-) .
Would make the world a better place.

lukvdh said,
If this helps to get those pedo-priests 'our little secret chat-room' down: great. If it helps to get the maffia-bank they own down: great. If it helps to get one believer thinking for him/herself in stead of believing their politicaly/economicaly inspired cr*p: very great.
Perhaps Anonymous can find a way to execute a DDoG (Distributed Denial of god) ;-) .
Would make the world a better place.

You may be right but, It doesn't work that way. We live in a society and thinking an cyber attack is gonna cripple a religion or the believer or raise attention its nonsense. It's like a doodle of a child saying "save the planet". It's like a grafitti of "down with the government". It just ups your ego. This is all about attention but not to the church, but to those guys.

janus0x said,
You may be right but, It doesn't work that way. We live in a society and thinking an cyber attack is gonna cripple a religion or the believer or raise attention its nonsense. It's like a doodle of a child saying "save the planet". It's like a grafitti of "down with the government". It just ups your ego. This is all about attention but not to the church, but to those guys.

Absolutely, and its even worse because they find networks with flaws first and then try and justify hacking them afterwards.

DDoS and hack do not belong in the same story as one another much less share the same sentence... When did DDoS become hacking?

Dusco25 said,
DDoS and hack do not belong in the same story as one another much less share the same sentence... When did DDoS become hacking?

The day our gouvrnment said so by giving the same sentence to DDoS attackers than hackers while DDoS attackers are more like a bunch of guys who block a street to protest. Hardly jail material imo.

Usually the web site is down 15 minutes at most. No data are stolen.

rippleman said,
yup, they showed the Catholics, they are licking their wounds and quitting their faith now. /s

stupid hackers... grow up


Next time read the article.

GS:mac

This is where you hit an unbreakable wall. You are not gonna get anywhere attacking the servers of a religion (call it institution if you want to save your ass from an avalanche) over a thousand years old. It just doesn't work that way.

Chrono951 said,
They aren't really even doing anything - just a botnet that temp slows down a site and overloads the servers.

and how do you know exactly what they are doing

timster said,

and how do you know exactly what they are doing

because that's what they do, what's wrong with you? They can't do anything more than that.

SubZenit said,

because that's what they do, what's wrong with you? They can't do anything more than that.

But they have done more than that, it's just you who won't accept that fact. Is it jealousy or what, I don't get it. Every Anonymous post contains a "they're just doing ddos" while in fact that is not true. They have proven they are able to hack, redirect and steal database info already.

Anooxy said,

But they have done more than that, it's just you who won't accept that fact. Is it jealousy or what, I don't get it. Every Anonymous post contains a "they're just doing ddos" while in fact that is not true. They have proven they are able to hack, redirect and steal database info already.

The "anon" hacks are done by one or two actual real hackers. hacks don't require mass amounts of people. only the DDoS attacks do, the actual hacks they do sometimes is just done by one of the few hidden leaders who have the skill.

HawkMan said,

The "anon" hacks are done by one or two actual real hackers. hacks don't require mass amounts of people. only the DDoS attacks do, the actual hacks they do sometimes is just done by one of the few hidden leaders who have the skill.

And what is your point? Those 2-3 hackers are still part of Anonymours, the idntify with the movement so we can say Anonymous did the hacks.

ThePitt said,
DDoS the vatican, I see a whole point to that. NOT

They pointed out the corruption and other issues there.

DaveBG said,

They pointed out the corruption and other issues there.

The irony ... Anonymous is a corrupt bunch of f**ks themselves Not that I give two s***s about the Vatican, but come on, this is a schoolboy power trip and nothing more, just like every other time.

ThePitt said,
DDoS the vatican, I see a whole point to that. NOT

Erm, they obviously did more than just DDoS them since they managed to redirect visitors, which means a proper hack...

ThePitt said,
DDoS the vatican, I see a whole point to that. NOT

Any normal company that's corrupt the government come down on it like a tone of bricks. With religion they just let them not pay tax and continue...

Xerax said,

Any normal company that's corrupt the government come down on it like a tone of bricks. With religion they just let them not pay tax and continue...

Agree, but now the church are the victims.