Another Vista Activation Crack Appears

Buzz about a Windows Vista zero-day vulnerability is troubling enough (although probably overblown). Now, there appears to be a second product activation hack, this one designed to fool the activation timer into not counting down. The activation hack is quite different from the first one, which involved setting up a Key Management Service server. Microsoft also released an update blocking hybrid testing/final Vista "Monster" code that could bypass product activation.

"Recently it has been reported that activation of Microsoft's Windows Vista operating system has been compromised," a Microsoft spokesperson said in a statement in response to a Microsoft Watch inquiry. "Microsoft is investigating this reported activation breach; however, there is no concrete evidence that this breach has been automated to the point that it is widely deployable." The not "widely deployable" statement, while likely true, isn't denial of an actual activation breach.

I've read instructions, which I won't link to, and comments from people successfully trying the so-called Time Stopper hack; I haven't tested it and wouldn't because of possible security breach when applying a downloaded crack as part of the process. As the Microsoft spokesperson acknowledged, there are reports about the crack, which requires setting a computer's BIOS clock to 2099. The hack does work on 32-bit Windows Vista installations but not necessarily 64-bit versions. The process requires some other Windows changes and eventual clock reset from within Vista leading to a perpetual state of 30 days to activation.

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It is funny how the "real deal" consists of something as simple as making it think the thing was installed in 2009 (and stopping those counters). That's a crack at the lowest possible level.

Quote - Julius Caro said @ #20.2
It is funny how the "real deal" consists of something as simple as making it think the thing was installed in 2009 (and stopping those counters). That's a crack at the lowest possible level.

OMG, PEOPLE STOP POSTING CRAP AND START READING THE ARTICLE! THIS IS ABOUT A CRACK, NOT ABOUT THE NOT-WORKING 2099 TRICK! THE CRACK REQUIRES 2099 AS WELL, BUT IS A CRACK, NOT A SIMPLE TRICK THAT DOESN'T EVEN WORK.

The caps are for shouting.

Quote - Lino en Kuldes said @ #12
Typing this from a Time-Stopped Windows Vista Ultimate :P
I wanted to give this POS a LONG try out before January because I don't have the latest and greatest in PCs (P4 2.4Ghz, 1GB RAM, GeForce FX 5500 256mb, etc.) and I wanted to see the performance of it... It's acceptable I guess, it feels much snappier than XP, but then again, just from boot-up, this BEHEMOTH of an OS is taking up close to 520Mb of RAM AT ALL TIMES. I can't even play HALO ONE on this computer using Vista. It works like crap when it works perfectly on XP.
Also, the amount of driver issues is just insane. There's almost NO driver support for Vista out there yet. The sound of this computer (AD188 thing from my ASUS P4V800D-X mobo) works perfectly until I hit PAUSE on anything I'm watching/listening, then the whole sound of the computer just stops. It's just crazy.

Ho well, rant off. But I'm glad I don't have to pay to give this POS a long try-out (30 days is not enough, I'm sorry).

You keep calling it a POS that's "acceptable" but yet you want to play with it, even past the trial period. The "I h@te w!nd0ws" fad doesn't look very flattering on you since you can't pull it off.

You keep calling it a POS that's "acceptable" but yet you want to play with it, even past the trial period. The "I h@te w!nd0ws" fad doesn't look very flattering on you since you can't pull it off.[/quote]

Because you think that I hate Windows, you tard. I've always used Windows, and by no means a hater, so you fail with that. My point is that for someone who WORKS on a computer all day and depends on it, EXTENSIVE testing of something that's going to be the foundation of your computing life IS necessary. I depend on my computer a lot for both work and pleasure, and I want to test (REALLY test) how work and play works under Vista. That is absolutely valid, much more so considering that where I'm from, buying Vista and or ANY computer equipment is MUCH more expensive that you could possibly comprehend in your little americanized thought process, and if I'm FULLY entitled to want to give a thorough test-run to an OS that will probably demand me to BUY more components for my PC because it's an absolute resource and hardware hog.

So now shut up and die in a fire. Thank you.

You may have had a valid point. But your argument is totally lost on everyone because you have the social skills of a poorly trained chimp. Can't you see talking in such a way isn't just bad for you, but also for Neowin as a whole. With such silly petty arguments every 5 minutes this place will end up like Digg.

I suppose you can have a civilized discussion on the front page, and even that may be totally accepted because there are forums for a reason, but with phrases like,

So now shut up and die in a fire. Thank you.
it makes me kind of wish people could get banned from the front page.

So please grow up.

Quote - bibutteryboy said @ #23

agreed. he sounds like a moron. You have 30 days to know whether you like it or not. Anymore time than that doesn't mean you think it's a POS, it means you're too cheap to buy it.

In Argentina, where I'm from, buying Vista means an expense similar to THREE TIMES THE MONTHLY SALARY of a FULL-TIME MAID. that's CHEAP? ****ing asshat. Shut up and UNDERSTAND that the US is NOT the end of the world. There's a wholeeeeeeeee lot more out there, so stop, look at yourself in a mirror and realize that you are the ignorant moron.

You, too, die in a fire, kthxbye.

Quote - Lino en Kuldes said @ #22.1

In Argentina, where I'm from, buying Vista means an expense similar to THREE TIMES THE MONTHLY SALARY of a FULL-TIME MAID. that's CHEAP? ****ing asshat. Shut up and UNDERSTAND that the US is NOT the end of the world. There's a wholeeeeeeeee lot more out there, so stop, look at yourself in a mirror and realize that you are the ignorant moron.

You, too, die in a fire, kthxbye.


Are you suggesting that it's OKAY to crack a Vista installation because you don't have enough money. Boy oh boy do I have a bridge to sell you cheap.... but as an added advantage, I've already cracked it for you.

Actually, especially in the early phases of the product's availability, 30 days may not be enough, because full tests will likely depend on driver and app availability.

If my RC2 experience (circa mid-November when I gave it another shot after a CPU upgrade) is any clue, I'm guessing that there are still a lot of missing drivers, or broken ones. TV card drivers and apps were problems, my sound drivers made odd error messages and/or were missing controls, and it hung on power down (driver issue? Perhaps.)

If I install a demo copy on release day, it wouldn't surprise me if we still don't have the right drivers ready by the time the 30 day trial breaks, and so I can't give it a fair evaluation as to how it will serve me for the next 5 years.

Quote - Lino en Kuldes said @ #22.1

In Argentina, where I'm from, buying Vista means an expense similar to THREE TIMES THE MONTHLY SALARY of a FULL-TIME MAID. that's CHEAP? ****ing asshat. Shut up and UNDERSTAND that the US is NOT the end of the world. There's a wholeeeeeeeee lot more out there, so stop, look at yourself in a mirror and realize that you are the ignorant moron.

You, too, die in a fire, kthxbye.

Rofl, windows xp professional costs practically the same as windows vista home premium....is that also 3 times the maids salary? Stop complaining about the price of Ultimate, when you dont really need ultimate at all.

But wait! A ferrari costs like 10000 [or some huge number..] times more than a maids salary...lets go steal that too! A house also costs that much more, lets steal that too! A platinum diamond ring costs that much more too...lets steal that too!!!

If thats how everyone in this world thought, we'd prob be all in jail by now....but no...what do INTELLIGENT [obviously not you] people do when they cant afford something? Either save up, or buy something cheaper, or dont buy it at all...they dont steal it.

The amount of driver issues is not microsofts fault. A lot of driver companies have said they will release their drivers once vista is released in JANUARY 2007. And you cant play halo one? Maybe disable some visual effects and also when you load a game VISTA WILL AUTOMATICALLY DUMP ALL BACKGROUND APPS INTO VIRTUAL MEMORY so your game has the full ram available to it, cut out your bull****. I know people you have got ****ing beta builds [which were very laggy] running almost as smoothly on freaking pentium 2s.

So maybe you should go die in a fire and also cut the crap about how you just wanted to test windows vista out. 30 days is a long enough time to test out your windows. You don't need to crack it and then claim your just testing it.

you actually don't have 30 days to "try" it out. You have 30 days to enter you licence key.

Anyone who thinks its a shareware situation where you try then buy is kidding themselves.

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Microsoft releases a new version of WPA/WGA
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and so on...

Why do people think this is the "put your bios to 2099" crack.

It's NOT!

READ NOT!

This stops the timer EVER counting down.

If you put the bios to 2099, then reset the date, IT WILL STILL COUNT DOWN (There are internal timers)

This makes that 1 month old crack (read: -rearm crack, or whatever) useless.

This crack stops the timers ever counting down 1 minute, it is forever "freshly installed" (even past 2099...if you like)

My God, people, just buy the damn thing if you really want it. It's not worth going through all this crap just to use an operating system that is not all that much better than XP. If you are determined to use Vista, why not support Microsoft and the countless amount of money and man-hours that were put into this piece of software?

anything that can be coded can be uncoded. although im making no comment on MS's pricing when i say this (i haven't even given vista a thought yet, and wont for some time most likely,): but pricing IS the best way to fight piracy. If the price of software is low enough, the majority of people would rather buy it than go through the hassle of cracking it anyway. there will always be pirates, but youre really fighting against the convenience of the general public.

i know nothing about this particular subject so correct me if im wrong when i say: doesn't MS make a great deal of their money from windows being bundled with new pc's and corporate licensing anyway?

obviously it's in their best interests to fight piracy, but i'd be interested to see how the numbers break down anyway.

Quote - k311 said @ #27
anything that can be coded can be uncoded. although im making no comment on MS's pricing when i say this (i haven't even given vista a thought yet, and wont for some time most likely,): but pricing IS the best way to fight piracy. If the price of software is low enough, the majority of people would rather buy it than go through the hassle of cracking it anyway. there will always be pirates, but youre really fighting against the convenience of the general public.

i know nothing about this particular subject so correct me if im wrong when i say: doesn't MS make a great deal of their money from windows being bundled with new pc's and corporate licensing anyway?

obviously it's in their best interests to fight piracy, but i'd be interested to see how the numbers break down anyway.

I agree with you on that, but see Vista has been in development since 2001 and some features since 1999. There are prob millions of hours put in to code this product, thousands/millions of dollars spent on advertising/publishing/salaries etc.

Microsoft will have to earn the money some way or the other, or go in a loss. Business is about making the best profit you can, and I find it acceptable to pay 100-360usd [depending on the vista version you want] for an OS that will possibly last you for the next 3-5 years [or even more if you don't want to get Vienna].

Quote - lawownsu said @ #28
Iam thinking of buying Vista when it becomes stable enough and supports most of the things that i need. :)!

Can't wait to use Vista SP2 :))

lol...before MS can release any 'patches' to fix bugs...they are gonna have to first issue a SP1 to replace half the cracked files in the system32 directory to stop whats already out....

Quote - DomZ said @ #1
Why do people think this is the "put your bios to 2099" crack.

It's NOT!

READ NOT!

This stops the timer EVER counting down.

If you put the bios to 2099, then reset the date, IT WILL STILL COUNT DOWN (There are internal timers)

This makes that 1 month old crack (read: -rearm crack, or whatever) useless.

This crack stops the timers ever counting down 1 minute, it is forever "freshly installed" (even past 2099...if you like)

Dude...This SO did not work ( I am typing this from another Computer ) ..I had 17 days left for Activation..and I changed my BIOS to 2099 , like the Document said..and I also removed the Network Cable...well when I logged back in to complete the rest of the "crack"..it told me that my Vista had Expired and I cannot log in, until I give it a Valid Serial...Which makes sense...cause 2099 is for sure PAST the 30 day Evaluation Period....This really Sucked...so now I am off to find another solution... =(

To everyone complaining that they cannot easily get Vista for free - blow it out your arse! Let me call the whaaaaaambulance for you. You paid for your hardware didn't you? Got that spiffy new nVidia card right? Hows that Raptor or nice LCD monitor? Paying yer monthly cable modem bill right? You paid for all of those because you were too afraid to steal those cause but you whine because you can't steal Vista as easily as you could previous version of Windows.

To the "I need more than 30 days to evaluate" folks - likewise, blow it out yer arse! Who cares how many days you need to do this or that or the other thing. They give you 30, feel lucky that you get 30 at all. Did you get 30 days to try out your new monitor? Hows that 30 day trial going on your car? 30 days of eating McDonalds to see if you get the sh!ts?

People - look - face it. You wanna talk about cracking something, sure, go on whatever. But call it what it is. It's stealing. I ain't saying you should or shouldn't, calling it right or wrong. Just don't be putting on holier than thou attitudes and pretending you are above it all. You are a common warez pirate (likely, a pure leeching swabbie at that) so your right to complain is basically null and void.

Pah... if you can't afford the $200 for a copy (less if you buy OEM, less still if you buy it bundled with any decent system builders package) for the thing that makes ALL the rest of your computer work then I don't think you deserve to play with the grown ups.

p.s., I may not pay for everything single piece of software on my system but I do pay for my copy of Windows. Having a 100% legit key is worth it to me. I don't like reinstalling every 30 days or worrying about WGA in any way (trivial or not).

p.s., I've seen this "crack" and it's way way way easily defeated by MS, heck, before consumer release even. Expect a WU to cure this before Jan 15.

p.p.s., reminder kiddies. Unlike with previous versions of Windows, this time MS is going to activately go after the crackers. They can go to the same newsgroups and sites as you do and find the same thing you can and it's easy for them to issue a patch for it (that you won't want) within a security update you need (i.e. to prevent being pwned online from some future exploit)

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