Apple Announces 3G iPhone - Arriving July 11

July 11 the 3G iPhone will reach the snatching hands of the crazed public. The new iPhone supports new features such as 3G wireless (surprise!), GPS mapping, enterprise features like Microsoft Exchange, and the new App Store. Keeping in line with the original iPhone, you get the same major features: widescreen iPod, and desktop-class web browser. It also includes smart sensors that help save battery life by adjusting the backlight based on ambient light.

The 3G iPhone is presented with the lines: "Twice as fast. Half the price." The price will start at $199.

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so AT&T changed the data plans for the iphone, its no longer $20 w/ 200 sms, $30 w/ 1500 sms, or $40 w/ unlim sms. The new plan is the $30 for iPhone data regular plan, or $45 for iPhone data w/ ability to do corporate email with ms exchange plus in addition you have to add whatever messaging pkg u want, so $5 gets you 200, $15 gets you 1500, and $20 gives you unlimited, or if you are on a family plan $30 gives the whole family plan unlimited messaging. So your iphone feature with messaging will be anywhere from $35 - $50 per month for a personal line. Not to bad same as all other PDA phones.

im carrying 3 devices currently..

a zune, work mobile and personal mobile (GPS included)

im hoping to replace all three with just one device and i dont have to pay to switch to iphone. and im already on 35 pounds contract. yay

Hmm, I wonder how many people who have commented here have watched the keynote speech.

yes it is marketing, yes some of these things are not new, but it ROCKS!


Having a HTC Trinity and a HTC Touch Dual, which use Windows Mobile 6.1

I have to say the iPhone interface just blows it away. xda forumn have tried to simulate similar interfaces for Windows Mobiles, but it just doesnt work as nice :(

HTC Trinity and Touch Dual are just too slow .... I suspect the HTC Diamond will have similar issues running on Windows Mobile 6.

I hate how much "control" they have over applications, especially taking 30% income sold from the store.

I'm impressed by the SDK, seems like a real good SDK. App Developers re getting prototypes up in a few weeks.

(Though I'm worried at code quality - trade off RAD)


Main thing keeping me back was 3G and GPS. They have it now..... reading TomTom have a prototype for the iphone, so I would use TomTom for navigation (store map data instead of stream) rather than google.

+ Exchange / MS Office compatibility is a ++ too!


As for no front camera/video call... well .. that a bit sucky! but then again I never really used video conf call so it wont bother me.

What would like is a stylus hand writing regonition... hope the chinese thing demoed will work with english too... though it would be better if you could write anywhere on the screen.


P.S I am not a mac fanboy or anything... hence having two windows mobile devices. But as I said WM6 has failed to impress me. I have also had a Sony P800 Simbian mobile too.

In the future, use a . instead of a line break...

The 30% cut for developers is not in the "Cons" column, but rather the "Pros" column. It costs us around 45-50% to put stuff on Microsoft's "Mobile Marketplace" and it doesn't come close to offering what Apple has put on the table. They wouldn't (maybe until now) even consider putting free apps on there with only $100 charge.

Wow, I'm a Windows Mobile type of guy, but I actually like the spiffiness of the iPhone. I feel 15% tempted now that it's a lot cheaper. If I could have the iPhone for a toy and keep my WM for everything else, I would. I have no intention of carrying around multiple devices, though.

(Skwerl said @ #35)
Wow, I'm a Windows Mobile type of guy, but I actually like the spiffiness of the iPhone. I feel 15% tempted now that it's a lot cheaper. If I could have the iPhone for a toy and keep my WM for everything else, I would. I have no intention of carrying around multiple devices, though.

I'm in the same boat as you, sort of. I'm really into WM, but I've always been tempted by the iPhone. But the price really put me off. Now, it's something to consider. I was planning to get the HTC Touch Diamond, but it looks like I'm gonna have to think twice about this now.

(MightyJordan said @ #35.1)

I'm in the same boat as you, sort of. I'm really into WM, but I've always been tempted by the iPhone. But the price really put me off. Now, it's something to consider. I was planning to get the HTC Touch Diamond, but it looks like I'm gonna have to think twice about this now.

Here's something else to think about- Windows Mobile 7 is probably closer than you think! I'd really like a more powerful PDA-Phone than I have now, but I'm going to hold out for the WM7 devices. The thing that really keeps me from switching over is that I enjoy Windows and WM programming. I've coded stuff for Macs before, and their SDKs and the IDE selection is really inferior to Microsoft's offerings.

(betasp said @ #33.1)
Source? I think they are showing actuals and not theoreticals. Note: ATT is actually using 3.5G.

3.5g is a scam, limit only on a few perimeters and you can't achieve the full potential.

Glad O2 users get an upgrade path. Makes my decision a lot easier to go from 16GB 2.5 to 16GB 3G.

You get to keep your 2.5G phone also. They offer a contract for a family member or a PayG Sim specifically for iPhones.

Damn you, Apple! You've got me in a dilemma now! I had the HTC Touch Diamond top of my list for a new phone. Now you come out with a £100 iPhone!

Damn you, Steve Jobs!

I have to say Im relaly disappointed with this, I didnt get the old iPhone as I thought it lacked some key features, and im not getting this now as I think the same... Its basically an old iPhone with 3g and gps, that it, same old camera... If you want a music device that you can talk to people on, get this, if you want a phone get something else...

It promised so much, but delivered so little... maybe apple should have paid more attention to all the rumours and hype regarding what people thought it would be like... I mean even the Samsung i900 is more feature packed than this...


Sorry apple.. Ill be looking elsewhere....

Which features are you referring to exactly?


I mean don't get me wrong... the iPhone isn't perfect but if you ask me, Apple have made a serious mobile phone which is a contender for the smartphone crown.

If you want a music device that you can talk to people on, get this, if you want a phone get something else...

It promised so much, but delivered so little... maybe apple should have paid more attention to all the rumours and hype regarding what people thought it would be like... I mean even the Samsung i900 is more feature packed than this...

Um, that does not make any sense. Do you want just a phone... then why care about "feature rich?" Also, cna you tell me where to get a Samsung i900.

uhmmmm.....
Could someone explain to me what does the iPhone 3G have that the HTC Touch Diamond doesn't?
The Touch Diamons has all those features, plus it's a WM 6.1 device (just think to the variety of applications you could get RIGHT NOW) and it has the video call camera on the front side.

well some would call WM6.1 a disadvantage for a starter. I'm still not sure if I think it's that good a consumer based OS to be honest, especially with the UI being in places largely designed for use with a stylus (although ones not needed necessarily). I think WM will be a more exciting OS when WM 7.0 is released with the overhauled UI, at least as far as the consumer market is concerned.

Besides that the HTC has a smaller screen at 2.8", off my head the iPhones is 3.5"?

Not sure but the iPhone I think is cheaper too but I'd need to relook at the HTC.

So yeah, definitely differences there. For me out of the devices I'd probably pick the iPhone actually, but I may also consider the new HTC model that has a keypad along with touch as that may be handy.

(Smigit said @ #28.1)
well some would call WM6.1 a disadvantage for a starter.

yes, while starter = dumb, granny and/or stupid people. WM6.1 is not so hard, in fact is more natural to a desktop.

(Magallanes said @ #28.2)

yes, while starter = dumb, granny and/or stupid people. WM6.1 is not so hard, in fact is more natural to a desktop.

Well I personally don't have that big an issue with it, but I also don't think having it similar to a desktop OS is necessarily a good thing either. It may be familiar, sure, but whether it's a good UI for such a device is debatable and alot of people clearly feel it isnt. Hell even MS has acknowledged it needs a UI overhaul so they must somewhat feel the same way.

(zipgenius said @ #28)
uhmmmm.....
Could someone explain to me what does the iPhone 3G have that the HTC Touch Diamond doesn't?
The Touch Diamons has all those features, plus it's a WM 6.1 device (just think to the variety of applications you could get RIGHT NOW) and it has the video call camera on the front side.

As a recent switcher from HTC Touch to iPhone, I can tell you that I would never touch Windows Mobile again.

Compared to the iPhone software, Windows Mobile is slow, clunky, and very unorganised. On the iPhone, everything just seems to a) be where you expect it to be and b) flow naturally. Also, there's no way you can compare the touch screens in HTC devices with that of the iPhone - the iPhone's screen is far more advanced and is much nicer to use.

I'll probably get a prepaid one to muck around with just cause I can. Once the overhype dies down though.

N96 will be my main phone soon.

Hey, you guys have any idea if the keyboard widens when you go to landscape mode? If it doesn't [like the iPhone 1.0], that just sucks...

I might look at getting one down the line. Got a Nokia N95 but I'm currently looking at moving to the US and I think off the top off my head that the N95 may not operate on the correct bands for US carriers so it may be that I'll need a new phone. That or one of the new dual HTC's. Something to look into when the need arises.

Good thing I just sold my used iphone 8Gb for $350 last week. Things of old models will drop like fly from now on. :cheeky:

3G is nice to have but wouldnt really work on o2 pay as you go

You can get a £7:50 a month web bolt on for pay and go users.
The GPS problem will be solved by third party GPS software that will allow you to load maps on.

I've got that very bolt-on right now, but I'm pretty sure ti dosent work on 3G :S True about the maps, but just imagine the memory something like that would swallow up

(J400uk said @ #18.1)
I've got that very bolt-on right now, but I'm pretty sure ti dosent work on 3G :S True about the maps, but just imagine the memory something like that would swallow up

what memory? mmaps wont take GB's of space.. copilot just needs 256 mb card for maps. you got 8 GB

Out of all the new feutres the only one that I can honestly say I would actually benefit from would be the flush headphone jack making the phone easier to use with say a car head unit or external speakers, 3G is nice to have but wouldnt really work on o2 pay as you go, same with GPS its cool but the maps are still going to be streamed down the net, it cant be used as satnav and the current locate-me system is pretty accurate as it is. The lower price is a very good move on apples part, but I strongly suspect this will mean signing up for a contract in store and no more of bringing home and activating *cough*jailbreaking*/cough*....

im so sorry i cant help myself. 3g ha! we've had that for years. talk about style way over substance. over-rated piece of fashion accessory thats what an i phone is.

nail on head

+1

get the HTC Touch Diamond/Pro instead, better phone and has nothing to do with Apple/Nazi Tunes, what more do you need?

Marketing at it's finest! Sure was nice of those early adopters to pay the insane original retail price. After 5 million units Apple can afford to sell a better product at a lower price.

After 5 million units Apple can afford to sell a better product at a lower price.

Yes, that's how it works. For everyone.

Careful with your sarcasm...you might upset the fanboys!!! Video chat's not needed for the main market. I know I use my cell mainly when I'm driving, while I'm at work, or when I'm on campus. I never need video chat there. I think the only practical place to use video chat is at home or at work...and PCs are wayyyy ahead of any phone for video chat.

In Canada we don't have the phones OR technology for the video calling yet. So this isn't a problem for me.

Plus my friends don't have phones capable of that so I'm happy with how it is.

(Eli said @ #14.2)
In Canada we don't have the phones OR technology for the video calling yet. So this isn't a problem for me.

Plus my friends don't have phones capable of that so I'm happy with how it is.

Actually... Rogers/Fido provides the phones and the technology for video calling...

Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Let the Neo FreeRunner come before this BOS (Bag of ****) :P

Note: The swear filter is there for a reason

(Sazz181 said @ #10)
Gaa £35 a month, and thats the cheapest O2 seem to do.

Not for me.

It is a lot, but no more then other contracts, but as I dislike contracts, mines unlocked to orange PYG

I thought that £35 a month was a lot, but if you add up the total cost over 18 months, it comes pretty close to what the phone would cost sim free (With no apple sub like the first gen one) anyway. It's not bad if you don't go anywhere near your inclusive minute's limit (like me)

(evo_spook said @ #10.1)


It is a lot, but no more then other contracts, but as I dislike contracts, mines unlocked to orange PYG

I pay £28 per month to Orange (including 30MB internet) and I still can't use up my minutes and texts, or my 30MB come to that. £35 per month is extortion, in my view!

(Sazz181 said @ #10)
Gaa £35 a month, and thats the cheapest O2 seem to do.

Not for me.

o2 is coming up with a pay as u go plan also!

I didn't understand this from macrumors

The iPhone 3G will be available July 11th in 22 countries. The maximum price around the world is $199 USD. Now showing an ad.
11:45 am $299 for the 16GB -- a white version of this size will be available too.
11:45 am Now on to the final challenge -- affordability. Started at $599 for an 8GB iPhone, now $399. The iPhone 3G 8GB will sell for... $199.

Isn't the max price around the world wrong?

It's saying that the highest price of the low-end iPhone, no matter what country it is, no matter their regulations, will be the equivalent of $199 US.

It's not saying the higher end model in other countries is the same price as the low-end model in the US.

The price will start at $199

Too much money for an ugly phone. I rather any nokia instead... And thats too much to say

I've seen the N95. It's WAY to thick for my liking. Not only that but the N95 in Canada is $499 on a three year term. Drop $300 to get the exact same thing just without a 5MP camera (hell I have a better camera which I keep on me anyways) I'm set!

I have an iPod Touch and it still makes my head turn when I see it on my own coffee table.

whoa dude how shallow can you get? I mean, I really don't love Apple, and I hate that MacBook Air crap they came up with, but you have to admit, the iPhone looks amazing compared to other mobile phones..

I have a Samsung D900 now fine for my needs but nice to see a 3G Iphone out hopefully it will be able to support any network soon I'm surprised EU hasn't fined em for controlling the market

(bucko said @ #6)
I have a Samsung D900 now fine for my needs but nice to see a 3G Iphone out hopefully it will be able to support any network soon I'm surprised EU hasn't fined em for controlling the market :rolleyes:

it seems to be country by country basis, those countrys who require it open, it is open, local laws

(bucko said @ #6)
I have a Samsung D900 now fine for my needs but nice to see a 3G Iphone out hopefully it will be able to support any network soon I'm surprised EU hasn't fined em for controlling the market :rolleyes:

In case no one told you; it's OK to use periods and commas here on Neowin.

(bucko said @ #6)
I have a Samsung D900 now fine for my needs but nice to see a 3G Iphone out hopefully it will be able to support any network soon I'm surprised EU hasn't fined em for controlling the market :rolleyes:

Because they aren't controlling the market. You have any number of other phones to pick from. You also can't be fined for controlling the market on a product you designed. That would be like saying they could fine them for not meeting customer demand.

Anyone know if it has voice dialing?

This is one of the most widely used features with bluetooth users, and has been a major gripe about the iPhone. (Especailly when a 2004 motorola cheapie has full voice recognition and digit dialing)

Half the price? Yeah, when you take a 2 year contract!

Any money says that they wont let you out of the store without signing a contract.

Actually, Apple have already said that it's subsidised by the operator - and I doubt ATT or O2 (UK) are going to subsidise a phone and then risk you taking it and unlocking it.

They're not stupid, they know what people do - and I just can't see them allowing you to buy one without signing (as goes for every other subsidised contract phone (the previous price was Apple's full price, and wasn't subsidised, so the networks didn't really care).

(bmaher said @ #1.4)
Actually, Apple have already said that it's subsidised by the operator - and I doubt ATT or O2 (UK) are going to subsidise a phone and then risk you taking it and unlocking it.

It's going to be unlocked out of the box if you buy it in Italy. So, you should have no problem to get one via eBay or similar.

(Islander said @ #1.5)

It's going to be unlocked out of the box if you buy it in Italy. So, you should have no problem to get one via eBay or similar.


yeah, because it will be the same price in italy ofcourse also, importing from a country that uses the euro to a country that uses the dollar will surely save him some money, smart thinking there :rolleyes:

edit: just looked at bmahers profile and he is from the uk, in that case, it might save him some money

o2's contract phones are usually unlocked, it's the pay and go ones that are locked.
However this time around it's very likely there will be no way of getting out of the store without signing up to an o2 contract. If you cancel it, you must return the phone.

(XerXis said @ #1.6)

yeah, because it will be the same price in italy ofcourse also, importing from a country that uses the euro to a country that uses the dollar will surely save him some money, smart thinking there :rolleyes:

edit: just looked at bmahers profile and he is from the uk, in that case, it might save him some money :p

lol funny guy.. :P