Apple confirms MySpace ban in retail stores

A new Apple regulation states you can no longer access MySpace.com on any of the Macs on display in the 5th Avenue Apple Store in New York City. When an attempt is made to load MySpace's Web site, the Safari browser delayed and failed to load it. According to a statement from Apple: "nearly 2 million people visit Apple stores every week. We want to provide everyone a chance to test-drive a Mac, so we are no longer offering access to MySpace in our stores." The News Corporation-owned MySpace is the only site that has been blocked. Heavy MySpace use was simply getting in the way of business.

An Apple Store employee (who does not work in the Fifth Avenue store), confirmed this has been an ongoing problem: "MySpace is a big issue for the Apple stores because people come in, Photobooth themselves (using Macs' built-in webcams), then stick their picture up on their MySpace account and loiter at machines for hours. It is especially troublesome at the flagships and high-volume stores, and for a while there was no official word on how to deal with it."

News source: Crave

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if it was my store i'd have to ask are you going to buy that and if you said NO i'd have to ask you please F*** off then you sodding time waster go on get out before i mac daddy my foot up your A hole

Mmm. Nice. And I suppose the potential customers who see you behave like that will be eager to support your store. Look, you want to put these Macs out on display for people to play with then this is what will happen. Sure its frustrating (and kind of sad) but if you lock it down too much they will become dis-interested. Good for the loiterers but bad for potential customers.

I wonder who made the decision that the child predator haven (MySpace) was the worst offender. Is HotMail next? What about LiveJournal or Fecebook? What about instant messaging programs? You can't take too much away though or you might start discouraging potential customers.

Shades of "Falling Down" here: "Management reserves the right". If you look like someone who is just using display computers to do personal stuff then you aren't intending to buy. Bouncing onto MySpace falls under that aegis, but if employees can't manage the shop floor then there's something else wrong, not just freeloaders taking advantage. Compare with Dixons (cheap tat electrical store in UK): you can't do anything with the machines on display as all they do is have an informative(! ) screensaver running along the lines of "hey this machine roolz! Buy it now!" with a password lock. I don't see Dixons complaining about lack of sales of PCs due to a simple lockout; if you want to know more you grab a minion to "demonstrate" it to you.

C_Guy said,
Mmm. Nice. And I suppose the potential customers who see you behave like that will be eager to support your store. Look, you want to put these Macs out on display for people to play with then this is what will happen. Sure its frustrating (and kind of sad) but if you lock it down too much they will become dis-interested. Good for the loiterers but bad for potential customers.

I wonder who made the decision that the child predator haven (MySpace) was the worst offender. Is HotMail next? What about LiveJournal or Fecebook? What about instant messaging programs? You can't take too much away though or you might start discouraging potential customers.

You can't possibly think that blocking those sites will keep people from buying the Mac. People that go to those sites in the Apple store aren't there to buy....they are there to hang out with friends and use the free internet.

Thank fcuk for that. I hope they ban it here in the UK too. And hotmail.com
I got to a store to try out new stuff, and it's fully of people one f-ing myspace, messenger or hotmail.com 'tying out the pc's. . . .
I mean, do people actually use MySpace any more, or is it just emo teens using it ? No one even needs access to the web to try out a mac - do they think the net will look any different (ok safari colourspace stuff excluded) on a mac??
God these people **** me off. They go in at lunch, do some email and listen to music, then go. WTF

Anyone who argues whether Mac or Windows is better, should know enough about computers to be able to the agree myspace is pathetic.

On a side note, I still detest Apple for its advertising... they sum Windows under the title PC (personal computer!? whats a Mac?), if you want to say Windows in an advert just say it, dont beat around the bush for fear of being sued or something.

If I go into a Apple store and say Im looking for a new PC do they point you to another store that sells computers with Windows or what happens? I suspect not, if they do - then sure I dont mind them carrying on advertising how they do, if they try and sell you a Mac arent they mis advertising? - someone should sue them for this im sure.

Good job Apple.

As for looking at inappropriate material in an Apple Store, I'd imagine there are employees around to stop anyone that does it. I suppose they have to block MySpace just because it's not really inappropriate but access to it is easily abused.

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If there world's most advanced operating system cant even handle viewing myspace then why would someone want to buy your over priced computer?

Myspace works just fine on a Mac. Did you read the article? Sometimes, Myspace does crap out, on any browswer, due to problems on their own end. The site now fails to load because they blocked it.

I'm just wondering, when you do try to access MySpace on the Macs, does some type of page explaining exactly why it's blocked pop up? Or are our the addicted (to MySpace) left in the dark?

Plus, I'll bet Microsoft is in some form going to give internet access to all Windows box retailers and say, "Look, it works with MySpace!"

Elite_graphix said,
wouldnt entering a unique proxy and dns server get around this?

Unless the Network applet under System Preference is unlocked. Obviously it must be locked since its in a public setting, so if you are going to edit it, you will have to enter the Administrative username and password. The same applies to User Accounts. So its a win-win for Apple.

You wouldn't even have to enter a unique proxy. Just go to a site like http://www.freetoview.net/, and surf via their servers. That is, until they block that one. But there are millions of 'em out there...

I suppose on the other hand, a kid smart enough to use a proxy like that wouldn't be using myspace anyways. The website disgusts me, frankly.

K3vlar said,
You wouldn't even have to enter a unique proxy. Just go to a site like http://www.freetoview.net/, and surf via their servers. That is, until they block that one. But there are millions of 'em out there...

I suppose on the other hand, a kid smart enough to use a proxy like that wouldn't be using myspace anyways. The website disgusts me, frankly.


EVERYONE uses myspace. Plenty of people "Smart enough" to do that use it. Not that it takes alot of intelligence to enter an url into the address bar, anyways.

I always walk past the Apple Store only to see kids going on MySpace. Then they get mad because a store employee tells them to f**k off so that he can actually demonstrate something on the computers to a paying customer. The ban is justified.

huh? Suprised they offer Internet access in store. It leaves them open for so much abuse, i.e a random person openning a porn site and minimizing it until a young kid sees it or something.

Most PC retail stores here don't have public Internet and often shops will have passworded screensavers so that staff are required before using a PC.

I imagine they already block porn sites. Its clearly a risk though. I imagine store employees are told to keep an eye out on things.

In the Regents Street store in London, most people seem to use the computers for email.

I imagine that Apple see this as a good thing - it gets people familiar with their computers, plus it makes them look good offering free internet access.

Obviously, there has to be a limit - I can't really see what else they could do except for banning myspace if it really was causing a large percentage of the computers to be in use.

eAi said,
I imagine they already block porn sites. Its clearly a risk though. I imagine store employees are told to keep an eye out on things.

In the Regents Street store in London, most people seem to use the computers for email.

I imagine that Apple see this as a good thing - it gets people familiar with their computers, plus it makes them look good offering free internet access.

Obviously, there has to be a limit - I can't really see what else they could do except for banning myspace if it really was causing a large percentage of the computers to be in use.

They can't block all the porn sites... it's not possible.... take phonetrace.(you know the ending if you know what I'm talking about) as an example.. NSFW DO NOT GO THERE

phiberoptik said,

They can't block all the porn sites... it's not possible.... take phonetrace.(you know the ending if you know what I'm talking about) as an example.. NSFW DO NOT GO THERE

Of course you can't, that doesn't mean they don't try, does it?

phiberoptik said,

They can't block all the porn sites... it's not possible.... take phonetrace.(you know the ending if you know what I'm talking about) as an example.. NSFW DO NOT GO THERE

No, they can't block all "porn" sites, but what they can do is block all websites, and set an "allowed" list.

people don't exactly need to test drive the internet from a mac... they could pretty much just make their own site accessible and block all other sites... then if you really really have good reason to check something out you could ask, and the staff could unblock you temporarily.

Went to an apple shop once, played around to see what they were like, ooops it froze on me, never went back.

Kudos to Apple, I can imagine how annoying that must be. Legit customers come to check out the systems before they make a purchase, but can't because of annoying kids. I bet they are also rude too when an Apple employee ask them to give the computer a break politely, while mop head looks back at him and says "what-ever"!

I call these people, wastrels!

Thank god. Hopefully they'll do it for all of their stores - then I can go back to an Apple store and play on the Macs in peace.

So it's only in effect at the NYC Apple Stores? Honestly, I'd like to see it banned at my local Apple Store. I can't even get in there anymore, it's always crammed with kids on MySpace, kids who have no interest in buying a Mac themselves, they just want a computer with free Internet access at the mall...