Apple disables jailbreakers' Apple IDs

It's no secret that Apple detests the jailbreaking community. They have claimed that jailbreakers violate their EULA and consequently, break the law. However, this has yet to be proven in court. Jailbreakers have enjoyed a long history of fighting Apple punch for punch. When programmers, such as the iPhone Dev Team, conquer a specific piece of Apple hardware or software, Apple retaliates with a hardware or software update to minimize available exploits, thereby sending developers back to the drawing board. It seems to be an endless game of cat and mouse.

According to a recent report from Redmond Pie, it looks like Apple may be taking a slightly more aggressive approach. If someone jailbreaks, they'll just disable their Apple ID, essentially crippling them from enjoying the pleasures of the App Store. Sherif Hashim, a developer that found a baseband exploit in the latest version of the iPhone OS (3.1.3), recently got a message on his phone stating "This Apple ID has been disabled for security reasons." In addition, iH8sn0w, the hacker behind the PwnageTool alternative, Sn0wbreeze, also had his account disabled.

It doesn't seem like Apple is targeting John Doe jailbreakers. The people mentioned above are pretty heavy hitters. However, that doesn't mean Apple isn't planning to make this a more widespread solution. Perhaps this is just a test phase. Sadly though, this will not stop people from jailbreaking. If anything, it could result in the exact opposite--more illegal app downloading. Should jailbreakers not be allowed to purchase anything from the App Store, it's possible that they'd begin downloading illegal content (stuff they'd otherwise pay for) through various repositories in Cydia, Icy, or wherever. Either way, a punch has been thrown. The jailbreaking community is sure to issue a response.

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calm down people, this happened to two people, and who knows if its even true. how many iphones are out there?

Haha, sux to all those Apple users. Maybe now they will get a clue and switch to something like Android so they can do what they want.

oh, HAHAHAHAHA.....

On the other side of the coin. Developers are screaming at Apple asking for a solution to solve the piracy problems. I'd wager if Jailbreaking allowed customisation but not unlimited access to 3rd party software from any source bar the App Store, Apple wouldn't be playing this cat and mouse game at all.

Fair or not, jailbreaking as whole cannot be trusted. The trustworthy Jailbreakers are being harmed by the illegal doers. My thoughts anyway.

If Apple would just allow you to customise the iphone a bit more, we wouldn't be tempted to jailbreak ... right? I have never been a big fan of apple, with their 'god mode' attitude... you pay a ton of cash for their granted, cool looking, but limited gadgets (more usb ports and a vga output please) ... but you can only do what they say you can on it? Get Bent! How can it be breaking the law to do with a device you purchased as you wish? Next they are going to nail you for etching your name into the back of your ipod? There are some talented developers out there, that dont get their apps onto itunes for whatever reason, and some people may want what they make. So how else do you extend the capabilities of your iphone? Why pay a mint for an app that just does what you want it to, when you can get another that does as well, and more! for free? but oh no...... wait.... you can't.... because it becomes a conflict of interest with itunes-uck .... never mind the horrendous footprint itunes eats up just sitting there waiting to swallow every dime and pound you might inadvertently throw its way... only to find out a day or two later that app doesn't do what you may have wanted..... and no refund...!!!!!! DOH!
Seriously don't know why they throttle the cpu as much either, why can't you decide how fast you want it to run, or maybe build in a feature that unleashes the cpu, or throttles it depending on usage?? now that would be a sweet addition.....
I reckon, and this is my own opinion..... Android will be the way to go! Next Gen iPhone can go play rock paper scissors as far as i am concerned.

Sulphy said,
If Apple would just allow you to customise the iphone a bit more, we wouldn't be tempted to jailbreak ... right? I have never been a big fan of apple, with their 'god mode' attitude... you pay a ton of cash for their granted, cool looking, but limited gadgets (more usb ports and a vga output please) ... but you can only do what they say you can on it? Get Bent! How can it be breaking the law to do with a device you purchased as you wish? Next they are going to nail you for etching your name into the back of your ipod? There are some talented developers out there, that dont get their apps onto itunes for whatever reason, and some people may want what they make. So how else do you extend the capabilities of your iphone? Why pay a mint for an app that just does what you want it to, when you can get another that does as well, and more! for free? but oh no...... wait.... you can't.... because it becomes a conflict of interest with itunes-uck .... never mind the horrendous footprint itunes eats up just sitting there waiting to swallow every dime and pound you might inadvertently throw its way... only to find out a day or two later that app doesn't do what you may have wanted..... and no refund...!!!!!! DOH!
Seriously don't know why they throttle the cpu as much either, why can't you decide how fast you want it to run, or maybe build in a feature that unleashes the cpu, or throttles it depending on usage?? now that would be a sweet addition.....
I reckon, and this is my own opinion..... Android will be the way to go! Next Gen iPhone can go play rock paper scissors as far as i am concerned.

good post.

completely agree with you there, android, yet to mature, will be the way to go!

I sold my iphone due to its extremely limited nature. At least jailbreaking made it a bit fun to play around with. Still very happy have i moved to a, for me personally, more usefull platform. I hate being a tech loving guy and being extremely restricted.

Nobody should complain about this. People that like the iphone as it is wont be targeted and for people that don't like the iphone unless jailbroken there are other options out there!

Geez overreacting comments much? Guess I can't blame them with a title like that, but it's made quite clear they aren't targeting normal users who jailbreak... yet. And I don't think they ever will because as mentioned it would just promote more piracy.

I find it amusing that the very thing that makes these phones great is what people are complaining about? When is the last time a virus for the iphone came out? o yea, when it was jailbroken. The very system that keeps the phone from being hacked ever is what everyone is making a fuss about. How does the average person get a computer virus? Clicking the "Click here for cool backgrounds" link. The android has already been hit with viruses and it has been on the market for how long? Anyone that claims that the new windows mobile software will be secure is flat out retarded. The only people that have had any issues with the iphone are the ones who jailbreak it. if you don't want to have issues, dont do it. Otherwise you are complaining about something you did to yourself. If you want functionality that the iphone doesnt have, go get a different phone. If you want a phone that you dont have to worry about getting hacked by some 13 year old for kicks, get an iphone. God forbid you research a product before you buy it and know what it can or cant do.

They can disable my account and I could care less. I'm not gonna give them any more of my money. With no multitasking, no 5MP+ camera, no LED flash, no adobe flash, I'm just waiting for my contract to end so I can get an android phone. In the meantime, jailbreaking the iPhone 3G is keeping me happy. Things I could do now that I couldn't before: Record video, multitask, quickly switch vibrate/bluetooth/3G/Wifi on and off, quickly adjust brightness, disable auto rotation of the screen, use Google Voice app, download youtube videos, have adblock for safari, and lots of customizations like have 5 icons in the bottom dock, put apps in folders under categories, have useful info on the lock screen and on the status bar. There are a lot more stuffs you can do but those are the main things for me.

They can disable my account and I could care less. I'm not gonna give them any more of my money. With no multitasking, no 5MP+ camera, no LED flash, no adobe flash, I'm just waiting for my contract to end so I can get an android phone. In the meantime, jailbreaking the iPhone 3G is keeping me happy. Things I could do now that I couldn't before: Record video, multitask, quickly switch vibrate/bluetooth/3G/Wifi on and off, quickly adjust brightness, disable auto rotation of the screen, use Google Voice app, download youtube videos, have adblock for safari, and lots of customizations like have 5 icons in the bottom dock, put apps in folders under categories, have useful info on the lock screen and on the status bar. There are a lot more stuffs you can do but those are the main things for me.

They can disable my account and I could care less. I'm not gonna give them any more of my money. With no multitasking, no 5MP+ camera, no LED flash, no adobe flash, I'm just waiting for my contract to end so I can get an android phone. In the meantime, jailbreaking the iPhone 3G is keeping me happy. Things I could do now that I couldn't before: Record video, multitask, quickly switch vibrate/bluetooth/3G/Wifi on and off, quickly adjust brightness, disable auto rotation of the screen, use Google Voice app, download youtube videos, have adblock for safari, and lots of customizations like have 5 icons in the bottom dock, put apps in folders under categories, have useful info on the lock screen and on the status bar. There are a lot more stuffs you can do but those are the main things for me.

They can disable my account and I could care less. I'm not gonna give them any more of my money. With no multitasking, no 5MP+ camera, no LED flash, no adobe flash, I'm just waiting for my contract to end so I can get an android phone. In the meantime, jailbreaking the iPhone 3G is keeping me happy. Things I could do now that I couldn't before: Record video, multitask, quickly switch vibrate/bluetooth/3G/Wifi on and off, quickly adjust brightness, disable auto rotation of the screen, use Google Voice app, download youtube videos, have adblock for safari, and lots of customizations like have 5 icons in the bottom dock, put apps in folders under categories, have useful info on the lock screen and on the status bar. There are a lot more stuffs you can do but those are the main things for me.

Gah, nice call Apple, I was already tempted by Win Mobile 7 / Android, but if your going to disable my iTunes purchases perhaps I should take my business else where?

I am about ready to buy an android phone, I am sick of AT&T's crappy service and I was quite content with Verizon, and Apple is way too restrictive. I used to like the company but they have a bad business philosophy. If they don't deem something necessary, then nobody needs it.

this only says they are blocking accounts. they aren't blocking the phone itself ...

it's easy to create another account. although not so easy though to transfer purchased content

timster said,
this only says they are blocking accounts. they aren't blocking the phone itself ...

it's easy to create another account. although not so easy though to transfer purchased content

it's wrong what they are doing. no jailbreaking, rooting or unlocking is just wrong to me. it's my phone and i should be able to do what i want. it's not our faults these companies cripple the phones.

Nope but it's your fault for buying it and agreeing to the term Apple set forth for you. If you didn't like the terms simply don't buy the phone. There are no victims here.

C_Guy said,
Nope but it's your fault for buying it and agreeing to the term Apple set forth for you. If you didn't like the terms simply don't buy the phone. There are no victims here.

Yes, if you are signed in front of a attorney or an authority competent.
No, if you are "signing" a EULA. And AFAIK, most customers are AT&T customer, and not directly they are an Apple customer.

if i was allowed to have custom themes/background then i wouldnt jailbreak my iPhone! this is the main reason i have done this! i have bought all my apps, and music from itunes! if my account locks out, ill be heading to my Priate ship!!

If I lose my Apple ID because I run my iPhone Jailbroken I'll just sell my iPhone and get a Nexus One. Simple as that really. I won't put up with bull**** like this from Apple when I just want to extend a device I legally purchased. I mean **** I'm a developer for the platform and I buy tons of software from the App Store and I'd still jump ship if this happened to me.

Vice said,
If I lose my Apple ID because I run my iPhone Jailbroken I'll just sell my iPhone and get a Nexus One. Simple as that really. I won't put up with bull**** like this from Apple when I just want to extend a device I legally purchased. I mean **** I'm a developer for the platform and I buy tons of software from the App Store and I'd still jump ship if this happened to me.

you will love android my friend.

Nightwind Hawk said,
yep, I will be getting something with android for sure... I'm quite sick of Apple making everything only "one way" for us.

Then quit supporting Apple by buying those products.

Digitalx said,
like mentioned - good way to promote piracy of their own platform and lose out on revenue.

i wonder if apples stock dropped today?

fixxxer2010 said,

i wonder if apples stock dropped today?


Up at +1.71 with 15 minutes to go in the trading day. It sits at 200.38.

Edited by eblkheart, Feb 15 2010, 8:31pm : double posted

this is very funny to me, sorry apple fans. i knew this would happen. it's like microsoft and apple are trying their hardest to get everyone to switch to android. what a big fail!

While I don't personally download pirated copies of applications, I do make use of the Jailbroken platform to give me features like backgrounds, themes, and multi-tasking.

I know where they are coming from, but seriously, way to go Apple, your killing off potential customers that way.

Sevan said,
While I don't personally download pirated copies of applications, I do make use of the Jailbroken platform to give me features like backgrounds, themes, and multi-tasking.

I know where they are coming from, but seriously, way to go Apple, your killing off potential customers that way.

im on android and ive yet to pay for one app, it's called searching the web.

fixxxer2010 said,

im on android and ive yet to pay for one app, it's called searching the web.

android has a very limited range of apps compared to the iphone

Rudy said,
android has a very limited range of apps compared to the iphone
Maybe, but I don't think you'll see this on the iPhone very soon.

TAT Home
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOGmnnGpoqg

People ask me why I don't care to jailbreak or mod my hardware... and this is a perfect example. I prefer to use the hardware as it was made to be used.

I once tried to put Boxee on my AppleTV, however I wasn't very happy with how it turned out (it crashed, and the preformance was severely hurt).

What's very amusing to be is the intense backlash from the comments on here, yet I don't think I remember anything as severe when Microsoft banned people from Live for the same reason.

As much as I hate the iPhone and any other Apple device for that matter, isn't this illegal? If jailbreaking does not break the EULA, then what's Apple's problem?

Exactly as posited in the article; I will use the app reviews/news from third-party websites to help me decide which apps to pirate, instead of purchasing apps as I currently do.

I can not wait until Android or some follow-on matures enough to be a viable alternative to the iPhone. I place Apple management up there just below the RIAA and MPAA as entities I detest.

there's one type of phones (white one's especially) with a fruit logo on the back that are so gayish, was wondering which one that might be.....

I'm just waiting for the people that DO NOT have jail broken phones to have their accounts shut off.

There is always collateral damage.

Same here!!! my contract is up in a year, was thinking on upgrading to newest iphone.. (i have iphone 3g), but if this is the route, I might cross over to HTC

J400uk said,
Good, I don't see the point in Jailbreaking myself.

Because you're limited by what you can do with an iPhone? The iPhone can not be even slightly customized out of the box. Even the cheap low-end phones that carriers give out for free allow you to change the background image.

The iPhone doesn't need to be jailbroken to be the best phone. Even with a hundred restrictions, the rest of the phone was lightyears better than anything else out there.

Boo hoo. I can't change my themes or tether or whatever. The interface, the speed, the features, and the functionality that is already there are so much better than any other phone I've ever used.

Xenomorph said,
The iPhone doesn't need to be jailbroken to be the best phone. Even with a hundred restrictions, the rest of the phone was lightyears better than anything else out there.

That doesn't mean that it couldn't be better.

chaos_disorder said,

That doesn't mean that it couldn't be better.

You have to understand that some of the restrictions are what makes the iPhone better. Just a quick example: No multitasking means when I test my game I know it will run exactly the same when someone downloads it. With multitasking it could lag because of other processes running in the background and my game would get bad reviews because the user thinks it's not optimized enough while the real problem is all the crap running on the phone.

Rudy said,
You have to understand that some of the restrictions are what makes the iPhone better. Just a quick example: No multitasking means when I test my game I know it will run exactly the same when someone downloads it. With multitasking it could lag because of other processes running in the background and my game would get bad reviews because the user thinks it's not optimized enough while the real problem is all the crap running on the phone.

I see where you're coming from. I'm not even that big on multitasking. But why can't I do something simple like download an email attachment that's not a photo that can be viewed/edited using one of the umpteen document apps? Or download many file types from Mobile Safari? Or move files around on my phone's file system? I can't even customize the look of the device out of the box. These are the things that I jailbreak for. Simple, basic functionality that people who are on the go a lot really get a lot of use from. Apple could easily enable such features and refuse to do so. Hopefully, OS 4.0 will change that.

Rudy said,
You have to understand that some of the restrictions are what makes the iPhone better. Just a quick example: No multitasking means when I test my game I know it will run exactly the same when someone downloads it. With multitasking it could lag because of other processes running in the background and my game would get bad reviews because the user thinks it's not optimized enough while the real problem is all the crap running on the phone.

Thats a good point.

Rudy said,
You have to understand that some of the restrictions are what makes the iPhone better. Just a quick example: No multitasking means when I test my game I know it will run exactly the same when someone downloads it. With multitasking it could lag because of other processes running in the background and my game would get bad reviews because the user thinks it's not optimized enough while the real problem is all the crap running on the phone.

I agree. Multitasking is hugely over rated. Multitasking is what makes WinMo phones so unresponsive. But there are still tons of things that are gained from jailbreaking that Apple could and should implement. The stupidest example is flashlight apps. Apple refuses to let devs change the brightness of the backlight so the App Store flashlight apps are to dim to be useful unless you crank the brightness up before running the flashlight app. The jailbroken flashlights change the brightness on the fly and then turn it back down when you close the app. This is just one silly example. Other advantages that could and should be implemented is inline spell checking, easy toggles for WiFi, BT, VPN, Tethering ect., ability to sync with more then one Exchange server and on and on.

Edited by ermax, Feb 16 2010, 4:45pm :

Gabe3 said,
all people will have to do is make a new apple ID.

accept that your apple ID is attached to your phone so when you make a new ID it gets attached to your phone also. They can't cut you off from the phone carrier but they can keep track of your phone through it. If they are serious about it, shouldn't be hard to disable any account that gets attached to the phone.

SputnikGamer said,

accept that your apple ID is attached to your phone so when you make a new ID it gets attached to your phone also. They can't cut you off from the phone carrier but they can keep track of your phone through it. If they are serious about it, shouldn't be hard to disable any account that gets attached to the phone.


yeah, thats what you want. when you make a new itunes account you can attach it to your phone, so the old one thats banned gets replaced with the new unbanned one. problem solved. unless they start banning by hardware ID...

Edited by Gabe3, Feb 16 2010, 7:06pm :

In some sense jailbreaking has made the iPhone more powerful than other phones. Apple built limitations and more so than with any other OS, the community found ways to get around them. It just amazes me how problem free and lightweight my jailbroken iPhone is compared to my last phone that was factory unlocked.

As an iPhone developer I hope this will help put a stop on app piracy....it's REALLY bad (I think it's worst than any other platform)

Rudy said,
As an iPhone developer I hope this will help put a stop on app piracy....it's REALLY bad (I think it's worst than any other platform)

While I understand how much it sucks to have people pirating your apps, there are plenty of us jailbreakers out there that do not pirate apps. I believe that Apple should concentrate more on controls to prevent piracy than lumping us all into one group and taking jailbreaking away from everyone.

Rudy said,
As an iPhone developer I hope this will help put a stop on app piracy....it's REALLY bad (I think it's worst than any other platform)

It's going to increase it, not stop it.

omnicoder said,

It's going to increase it, not stop it.
It might stop some people from jailbreaking.....maybe...

But at least it's showing that Apple is trying to do something about it

Edited by Rudy, Feb 15 2010, 6:27pm :

Rudy said,
It might stop some people from jailbreaking.....maybe...

But at least it's showing that Apple is trying to do something about it


I meant it would increase piracy, not jailbreaking

omnicoder said,

I meant it would increase piracy, not jailbreaking

It will probably increase piracy if the only path to get a particular app is by stealing it instead of buying it on the app store for a jailbroken iphone user.

Rudy said,
As an iPhone developer I hope this will help put a stop on app piracy....it's REALLY bad (I think it's worst than any other platform)

Fat chance when only alternative given is piracy lol.

So let me get this straight; Apple doesn't like jailbreaking (understandable to a point), so their course of action is to disable the ability of persons with jailbroken phones to buy legitimate apps from the apple store?

Am I missing something here?

k311 said,
So let me get this straight; Apple doesn't like jailbreaking (understandable to a point), so their course of action is to disable the ability of persons with jailbroken phones to buy legitimate apps from the apple store?

Am I missing something here?

Yes you are missing something. To date they have only disabled the accounts of the people claiming responsibility for the whole iPhone jailbreaking scene. Apple has not started to disable the mass number of jailbroken phones. That is currently an unknown.

Tech Star said,
Without having an App Store and having no jalibreak, the phone is worthless.

Lol. Why is that? No themes...?

Sorry, but most people don't need a jailbroken iphone.

Any anyway, people who have had their accounts disabled can still load commercial apps on their phone. Just not in a technically legal way.

Edited by Shadrack, Feb 15 2010, 7:38pm :

I've been jailbroken since I bought my iPod Touch, and have never pirated a single app. Not one. I've spent a good amount of money on apps from the App Store, and will gladly continue to do so. I just wanted the ability to have additional functionality that Apple has yet to deem us little people worthy of receiving yet.

I've never seen jailbreaking as illegal. In fact when I've went through the repositories for some of the third party installers there were mostly stuff that were rejected by apple. Yea there were other variants of similar 'apple' apps but they were never the same as far as I've seen.

This is the most ignorant move. So ignorant I am calling FUD. Jailbreaking causes no harm to Apple or anyone for that matter other then piracy. Blocking Apple IDs will just force non-pirate jailbreakers to start pirating. Apple isn't going to get new sales from this move, they will just loose sales and driver hardcore users to Android. I just can't believe Apple would be this stupid. Why does Apple insist on labeling jailbreakers as pirates?

Shadrack said,
So wait. Do you think that this is true and Apple sucks, or are you really calling FUD. Do you even know what FUD means?

What I am saying is I don't think Apple is stupid enough to block Apple ID's of jailbreakers. They are probably blocking specific users and people are just jumping to conclusions.

If the limitations of the iPhone are a turn off for you, then there are other less-restrictive phones on the market.

This will mean more piracy of apps. Most jailbreakes don't jailbreak to download apps illegally, but this will 'force' them to (if it becomes widespread).

Shadrack said,
If the limitations of the iPhone are a turn off for you, then there are other less-restrictive phones on the market.

Exactly my point. Jeez, stop whining already if this is a problem for you. Don't use *the most restrictive phone on the market* then.

Edited by Northgrove, Feb 15 2010, 10:09pm :

I agree - this move, if it becomes widespread, will only increase piracy in the long run. Where else are jailbroken devices going to get their apps? Here's a simple solution for Apple: make a damn OS that contains basic functionality (saving non-photo email attachments, multitasking, wallpaper, a decent lock screen, etc.) and people will lose much of the incentive to jailbreak.

or switch over to an Android

Having Lockinfo, SBsetting, GV Mobile, and Cycorder is what made me want to stick w/ this phone despite what I think of Apple

dimithrak said,
OR.. just wait for windows phone 7.. its sure gonna kick Android in its ass..

As has been stated before, that will last for a matter of weeks / months. The problem with your statement is that Android's update cycle is lightyears faster than Windows Mobile's, so even if WM7 comes out with something "amazing", it won't take Android long to catch up and surpass it.

dimithrak said,
OR.. just wait for windows phone 7.. its sure gonna kick Android in its ass..

lol...if that's what you think your dead wrong my man.

vaximily said,

As has been stated before, that will last for a matter of weeks / months. The problem with your statement is that Android's update cycle is lightyears faster than Windows Mobile's, so even if WM7 comes out with something "amazing", it won't take Android long to catch up and surpass it.


No, it'll just take long for those new versions of Android to show up on phones. There won't be any actual Android phones on the market that answer WinMo7 until 2011 at the earliest.

Remember, Android 1.6 had long been out and 2.0 was already circulating when the HTC Hero came to market with lovely 1.5--and its 2.1 update can't even commit to a window smaller than six months.

Android will only beat WinMo7 for users that root their phones and stay ahead of the game, and those users would probably be happier with Android anyway, since it's a bit more geek-friendly like that.

Don't forget that these vendors making Android phones often also make WinMo phones (Samsung, HTC, etc). Why the heck would they WANT one of their phones to fail? They'll do their best to push both.

Edited by Joshie, Feb 15 2010, 10:07pm :

Shrug, big deal. If they want to ban jailbreakers, they'll just use Installous to get all their apps.

Well thats just good aint it! Atleast with an Android on WM device i can flash whatever the hell i want onto it and not be raped for it.

Way to go there crapple

Class action law-suit forming?

Its pretty simple Steve.

You can't put an EULA on something you purchase (hardware) as you arent licensing it. You rake legit users (like my girlfriend) and isolate them for wanting the ability to customize their phone.... that means that they are now going to use torrents to get software, instead of the App store.

Well done Apple, Well done.

Brandon said,
You can't put an EULA on something you purchase (hardware) as you arent licensing it.

Their not licensing the hardware, as much as the software that runs your phone. That, they can change however they'd like.

Brandon said,
Class action law-suit forming?

Its pretty simple Steve.

You can't put an EULA on something you purchase (hardware) as you arent licensing it. You rake legit users (like my girlfriend) and isolate them for wanting the ability to customize their phone.... that means that they are now going to use torrents to get software, instead of the App store.

Well done Apple, Well done.

They're also not locking you out of the hardware, but out of the App Store, which does have an EULA.

DomZ said,
They're also not locking you out of the hardware, but out of the App Store, which does have an EULA.
Which you are breaking how? Oh, because your phone can download from somewhere BUT HERE, you can't use this service? If they throw that in, there goes HTTP and FTP access. As well as a REALLY GOOD foundation for a monopoly abuse suit.

The monopoly (or just heavily used) being iTunes.

Edited by cybertimber2008, Feb 15 2010, 8:07pm :

DomZ said,

They're also not locking you out of the hardware, but out of the App Store, which does have an EULA.

basicly thats like saying you cant drive a bmw unless you are dressed in a suite. the appstore dosnt allow you to download apps illegaly. apple are just throwing their weight around trying to bully innocent people.

Pong said,
This is why I'll never buy an apple product, pay more for less freedom.

Honestly, I don't think I've ever seen a better summery of the Apple ideology. Spot on.

Edited by JoeyF, Feb 15 2010, 5:13pm :

Pong said,
This is why I'll never buy an apple product, pay more for less freedom.

True that, if I end up getting my ID banned because Apple wants to be a bunch of pricks, I'm switching to a different OS. Possibly Android if I can afford the damn data fees.

Edit: FYI, I stopped pirating App Store apps many months ago. All my apps are paid for and are completely legal. If Apple bans a legitimate iTunes shopper, they aren't worth buying from anymore.

Edited by OrangeFTW, Feb 15 2010, 6:55pm :

Byron_Hinson said,

So this is different to MS with Xbox Live?

So you counter him by bringing up a company and product that he didn't even mention?

Shadrack said,
What did he ever do to you?

I'm quite comfortable hating a guy who punches my girlfriend... even if he never did anything directly to me.

For similar reasons, purchasers of Apple products can rightly hate Mr. Jobs for his influence in making Apple software/devices "crippleware".

AlfredSka said,

I'm quite comfortable hating a guy who punches my girlfriend... even if he never did anything directly to me.

For similar reasons, purchasers of Apple products can rightly hate Mr. Jobs for his influence in making Apple software/devices "crippleware".

who forced you to buy apple?

TonyLock said,
*THUMBS UP ICON*

This is stupid some of their sales are made because people can jailbreak the iphone. I know a lot of people who told me they would have even bought it if they couldn't jailbreak it and now that their banning them from the app store apple is cutting themselves from profits and just basically telling people to pirate the apps that they can't get.

torrentthief said,
i hate steve jobs!

Agreed, Apple are so bloody anti-competative, they get away with so much that MS would never get away with. Also, Steve Jobs really is just a douche, the only way he seems to be able to sell his own products is by attacking other companies, and then using words like 'brilliant, fantastic...etc' to promote his own.

I stayed away from getting an ipod for a long time because it would force me to use iTunes, i finally gave in and got an iPhone3G, it's a damn good phone, i do like it, but this i think is definately going to steer me away a bit further from the next iPhone 4th Gen.

Shadrack said,
who forced you to buy apple?

Nobody, which is why I don't own any apple products. Yet, that doesn't stop me or anyone else from disliking the individuals responsible for crippling the devices and software of users who purchased those products. It appears you need yet another analogy: "I hate murderers because they take away lives, even one of those lives is not my own, and even if I never met the victim or murderer". Conclusion: OP is still justified in his/her opinion.