Apple event announced for Sept 12, iPhone 5 gets a nod

Apple has just sent out out press invites for a September 12th event that has the number 5 in the shadow of the date. While the invite does not specifically state that the iPhone 5 will be announced, considering the dozens of leaks leading up to the event, it's all but certain.

The press event is a little over a week away and the company will likely announce the next iPhone but according to previous rumors, it will not include the new iPad mini.

We don't have long to go until the event and will likely here more from "inside" sources before the launch but until then, we have a Nokia event to look forward to tomorrow and an Amazon event later in the month. 

Souce: Engadget

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I know wireless charging isn't new but you know what apple are like with there bs but with another phone released around the same time with lots of marketing apple can't spin there usual crap. That's all im saying, I know inductive charging has been around for a long time.

Ahh, the iPhone 5, the new "we think you're too stupid to understand and/or we can't be bothered to explain why we've called it 6, so we'll call it 5 instead" edition phone from Apple

Seriously though... the iPhone 4 was named correctly because it was the 4th model of iPhone. However if you follow the naming logic of the iPhone 5, then the iPhone 4 should've actually been called the iPhone 3 since the 3G was number 2 (not just 3), and we're not counting the S models as a separate phone.

Shadrack said,
I think maybe you are getting a little too hung up on what they call the phone. Pun intended.

Maybe. Just think it's insulting that they clearly think everybody is too stupid to understand why it's called 6, so they call it 5 to avoid having to explain ad infinitum. Although, knowing some of the Apple drones as I do, maybe they're not entirely incorrect in their assessment

You lost me at Apple drones. Just for clarification. For Apple it's sheep or even iSheep is acceptable. Drones is synonymous with Fandroids. Apple drone is like an oxymoron.

But how do you know for sure that they will call it 5? I mean, I would probably bet money that they will call it iPhone 5 based on the image. But the image could just mean "5 years with the iPhone".

Both looking forward to and dreading iOS 6 (removal of Google Maps in favour of Apple's version). Don't want to be forced to decide between a decent mapping solution and the new features - I don't doubt Apple will produce a technologically good solution but I can't see any way they'll have matched Google Maps in terms of data on small businesses etc.

Looking forward to seeing what they unveil in regards to the screen. Even 4" would be a nice boost of real estate. Personally, I'm more excited about iOS 6 than the actual new iPhone.

Astra.Xtreme said,
Looking forward to seeing what they unveil in regards to the screen. Even 4" would be a nice boost of real estate. Personally, I'm more excited about iOS 6 than the actual new iPhone.

Having installed ios6 on my iPad 2 as an app developer, I guarantee you there is nothing to be excited about... As usual, new features are only available for newer device...

This go around is definitely the put up or shut up cycle. We've been hearing that Windows Phone is going to be great. I tried a Lumia 900 and liked it for the most part. Returned it because I feared they weren't going to support WP8 on it...which turned out correct. I really hope Windows Phone takes off. Having more healthy competitors in the market is best for customers.

bitslasher said,
This go around is definitely the put up or shut up cycle. We've been hearing that Windows Phone is going to be great. I tried a Lumia 900 and liked it for the most part. Returned it because I feared they weren't going to support WP8 on it...which turned out correct. I really hope Windows Phone takes off. Having more healthy competitors in the market is best for customers.

A smart move. I debated an upgrade to Lumia 900 but considering it got the shaft with WP8, glad I waited. Looking like some very nice stuff will be coming to Nokia lineup and WP8 in general. I want that red one...

Look forward to the new OS. Siri that actually works outside of the US is a bonus. Silly its taken a year to get their arse into gear tbh. I will be using the new DND features too.

Hopefully one day they will change the alarm clock to be separate to the main phone ringing volume.

SK[ said,]Look forward to the new OS. Siri that actually works outside of the US is a bonus. Silly its taken a year to get their arse into gear tbh. I will be using the new DND features too.

Hopefully one day they will change the alarm clock to be separate to the main phone ringing volume.

Will they launch iOS6 at the same time though?

wotsit said,

Will they launch iOS6 at the same time though?

Probably a bit before if previous launches are an indication.

Probably will be upgrading to the 5, my 4 is really starting to show age, after that though I'm hoping the Windows Phones have a solid platform and a decent app library by the time I upgrade again in 2 years. Getting quite tired of the iPhone to be honest, I've used one since 07, and the only one that has really wowed me was the original, but so far out of all the other phones I've used (droids and bb's) I keep coming back due to the stability and apps.

If you tilt your screen downwards (so you can see the up position of your monitor) you will see the 5 alot better

It's the 4S with a larger screen and new connector. If they dare to double the screen resolution it will feel slower than the 4S as the 'new' iPad feels at best the same as the iPad 2 in handling.

Nothing to see here.. move along..

And the <snipped> will park outside the Apple stores to 'upgrade' where Apple now will offer a buyback of their previous phone (going to be announced as a ground breaking service and Apple being environment friendly) to ensure they will meet sales targets. All that for a mere $800+ out of pocket or only $299 with the rest subsidized over two years.

iOS is at a standstill development wise and there's only so much you can 'innovate' on the form factor and hardware without needing more of other companies ideas, patents and bought up goodies..

Edited by Denis W., Sep 4 2012, 5:23pm :

paulheu said,
iOS is at a standstill development wise and there's only so much you can 'innovate' on the form factor and hardware without needing more of other companies ideas, patents and bought up goodies..

I agree however the rest of the market is hardly anything to shout about. For me the AppStore is the only reason Apple keep me as an iPhone customer. Android Market is crap. games don't play half as smoothly as they did on the iPhone. Apps from major companies prioritise their apps on the AppStore before any other phone market. WP7 is a really nice OS but the Marketplace is just poor. MS know this though hence their huge pushes for developers.

paulheu said,
It's the 4S with a larger screen and new connector. If they dare to double the screen resolution it will feel slower than the 4S as the 'new' iPad feels at best the same as the iPad 2 in handling.

In general use both the iPad 2 and 3 responds immediately to user input. The fact that the iPad 3 has twice the vertical and horizontal resolution and is still just as responsive is really impressive no matter how much you try and down play it.


Nothing to see here.. move along..

And the <snipped> will park outside the Apple stores to 'upgrade' where Apple now will offer a buyback of their previous phone (going to be announced as a ground breaking service and Apple being environment friendly) to ensure they will meet sales targets. All that for a mere $800+ out of pocket or only $299 with the rest subsidized over two years.

iOS is at a standstill development wise and there's only so much you can 'innovate' on the form factor and hardware without needing more of other companies ideas, patents and bought up goodies..

The standstill is across the board IMHO. Android has shown us that the UI can change every version number, but I really don't care about changing the UI for the sake of change (which is really what it amounts to IMO). We are just at the point where there isn't much more for this particular form factor. The generation of phones post-iPhone 4 was the last "big" leap for this form factor in terms of speed and feature sets.

No phone released in this rectangular touch screen form factor is going to knock anyone's socks off because from here on out we are just looking at refinements that are mostly all related to cellular network speeds.

Its going to take a totally new form factor (Google Glasses perhaps?) to get people excited again.

Shadrack said,

The standstill is across the board IMHO. Android has shown us that the UI can change every version number, but I really don't care about changing the UI for the sake of change (which is really what it amounts to IMO). We are just at the point where there isn't much more for this particular form factor. The generation of phones post-iPhone 4 was the last "big" leap for this form factor in terms of speed and feature sets.
I kinda disagree. Have you seen stock Eclair/Froyo/Gingerbread? They are very ugly. I actually preferred a manufacturer skin (Sense 1.x) over the stock Android experience. With Android 4.x (ICS, JB), I actually prefer the stock Android experience. They're not changing just for the sake of change. They're changing it to make it visually better.

SK[ said,]

I agree however the rest of the market is hardly anything to shout about. For me the AppStore is the only reason Apple keep me as an iPhone customer. Android Market is crap. games don't play half as smoothly as they did on the iPhone. Apps from major companies prioritise their apps on the AppStore before any other phone market. WP7 is a really nice OS but the Marketplace is just poor. MS know this though hence their huge pushes for developers.

100% agree - Apple won the app race and that's the primary reason for their initial and continued success IMHO. WP7 app store (as in the quality and volume of its content) sucks.

tsupersonic said,
I kinda disagree. Have you seen stock Eclair/Froyo/Gingerbread? They are very ugly. I actually preferred a manufacturer skin (Sense 1.x) over the stock Android experience. With Android 4.x (ICS, JB), I actually prefer the stock Android experience. They're not changing just for the sake of change. They're changing it to make it visually better.


I don't know about the standstill for all. My wife saw the SGSIII commercial and looked at me and said can a phone really do that? The picture sharing was certainly something that is new and different and something that is not apparent on other phones.

pwgarner said,


I don't know about the standstill for all. My wife saw the SGSIII commercial and looked at me and said can a phone really do that? The picture sharing was certainly something that is new and different and something that is not apparent on other phones.

Are you referring to the feature that identifies who is in a photo and gives you the ability to email the photo to them? Its a cool feature, but this is kind of what I'm talking about. We will see these small refinements in each of the mobile OS. Like this one, they will all be kinda-neat but not much meat (I mean, come on... I know who is in the photo that I shot and on any phone I can quickly email a photo).

Same with iOS getting Twitter and Facebook features as the "major" iOS 6 feature. They are all so oh-gee-whiz.

paulheu said,
It's the 4S with a larger screen and new connector. If they dare to double the screen resolution it will feel slower than the 4S as the 'new' iPad feels at best the same as the iPad 2 in handling.

I think the biggest point would be the LTE. Plenty of phones have gone to market with that as their only real selling point.

Also, why would they double the screen resolution? I think Apple is happy to stay with the relatively compact form factor they currently have, and increasing the pixel density even more would be pretty pointless. They still beat the vast majority of modern phones on pixel density.

paulheu said,
And the <snipped> will park outside the Apple stores to 'upgrade' where Apple now will offer a buyback of their previous phone (going to be announced as a ground breaking service and Apple being environment friendly) to ensure they will meet sales targets.

Honestly I think that the people who stand in line and buy a new iPhone every single year make up probably less than 1% of total sales over the lifetime of each model. The vast majority of people upgrade their phones when they are eligible for a subsidized upgrade.

paulheu said,

All that for a mere $800+ out of pocket or only $299 with the rest subsidized over two years.

Isn't the iPhone's subsidized and unsubsidized price pretty much the same as the high end Android phones? Someone I know got a Droid RAZR recently for $249 on contract, and the Maxx would have been $349.

The iPhone has been $199 on contract since 2008. An unlocked iPhone 4S is $649. I can see how exaggerating those numbers would help your point though.

I'm holding out for a new design but am expecting to be disappointed. The 4/4S don't do it for me - that said the 'leaked' images to me make the design even uglier. I also don't want a huge phone like the Galaxy S III or alumina 900 - but it seems pretty much given it'll be longer

Basically I want the new screen and chip in my beloved 3GS

So they're naming the 6th iPhone the iPhone 5, huh? And the successor to the iPad 2 was the "New iPad'.

Does Apple have any freaking idea what to name things anymore?

siah1214 said,
So they're naming the 6th iPhone the iPhone 5, huh? And the successor to the iPad 2 was the "New iPad'.

Does Apple have any freaking idea what to name things anymore?

It might be called just 'iPhone' and marketed as "the new iPhone" just like the 3rd generation iPad was. The 5 could just mean "5 years with the iPhone".

siah1214 said,
Does Apple have any freaking idea what to name things anymore?

For comparison purposes, Microsoft does way worse naming things. They constantly change the names of products every couple of years.

Apple's never been great at naming things. Remember the period where they had the MacBook (plastic), MacBook (aluminum), and MacBook Pro, (aluminum, 15" or 17")? That was a confusing lineup.

Then they went iPhone -> iPhone 3G -> iPhone 3GS -> iPhone 4 -> iPhone 4S. There isn't any rhyme or reason to why they name things the way to do. People saying "Apple would never name it the iPhone 5, they always name things logically" clearly hasn't paid much attention to their names in the past

It will probably be slightly bigger and have LTE (like the rumors suggest). They will boast 4-10X better performance than the iPhone 4S (but I doubt it will really feel that much faster).

Still, I'm looking forward to see what they have with this refresh. Not planning to upgrade though.

Its think the iPhone has got a serious contender in Nokia 920 and wp8 and I doubt it'll bring anything amazing to the table. The wireless charging is in the 920 so they can't say they got there first. Of course it'll sell millions in the container load but I doubt it'll be the amazing product apple will market it as

psionicinversion said,
Its think the iPhone has got a serious contender in Nokia 920 and wp8 and I doubt it'll bring anything amazing to the table. The wireless charging is in the 920 so they can't say they got there first. Of course it'll sell millions in the container load but I doubt it'll be the amazing product apple will market it as

Neither can Nokia, Palm and subsequently HP Pre's and other WebOS products had wireless charging.

psionicinversion said,
Its think the iPhone has got a serious contender in Nokia 920 and wp8 and I doubt it'll bring anything amazing to the table. The wireless charging is in the 920 so they can't say they got there first. Of course it'll sell millions in the container load but I doubt it'll be the amazing product apple will market it as

when Lumia 900 was released with WP7 the same was said... dont seem to have any impact

psionicinversion said,
The wireless charging is in the 920 so they can't say they got there first.

...because wireless charging is something that's revolutionary and has never been done before?

You don't know much about smartphones.

andrewbares said,

...because wireless charging is something that's revolutionary and has never been done before?

You don't know much about smartphones.

If iPhone was announced with it you can bet it'd touted as such. Nokia and WP8 seem to be lining up a few 'revolutionary' features. Will it crush Apple? Nope. The faithful Apple fans will line up in droves as always. The idea is to slowly chip at the market and gain a respectable foothold, not to obliterate everyone. Competition IS good. I just like WP better.

still1 said,

when Lumia 900 was released with WP7 the same was said... dont seem to have any impact

True. I think that MS is counting on their WP8 tabs and PCs (consistency and integration between devices) to increase sales

psionicinversion said,
Its think the iPhone has got a serious contender in Nokia 920 and wp8

ya ..

the first one will sell 40+ million units, and the other will sell what ? 250k ??

serious contender