Apple: FBI didn't ask for any UDID numbers

It's the online piracy mystery of the moment. Did the hacker group known as AntiSec really manage to find a way to not only get into the laptop of an FBI agent but also did the group take 12 million Unique Device Identifiers (UDIDs) numbers for Apple iOS products from that notebook?

The FBI has said they have found "no evidence" to suggest that is what indeed happened. Now Apple itself has made its own statement, and it's even more damaging to AntiSec's case. AllThingsD.com reports that, according to Apple's statement:

The FBI has not requested this information from Apple, nor have we provided it to the FBI or any organization. Additionally, with iOS 6 we introduced a new set of APIs meant to replace the use of the UDID and will soon be banning the use of UDID.

The statements from Apple and the FBI certainly don't support AntiSec's claims. On the other hand, the group did post what appear to be one million of those UDID numbers on the Pastebin.com site, and they seem to be genuine.

So there is still two questions remaining: Where did AntiSec get these numbers and why are they claiming that they took these numbers from an FBI agent's laptop?

Source: AllThingsD.com
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maybe they wern't from an FBI agent, but some kind of contractor that had access to the data somehow and they *thought* it was from an FBI agent's laptop? that or... well... social engineering to get them through some app that people use on the device and a great tale to pin stuff on a real FBI agent?

Sounds like AntiSec has some splaining to do! Seems like AntiSec just wanted more negative attention towards the US Government. I'm interested to see where this goes.

SnaveZ said,
Sounds like AntiSec has some splaining to do! Seems like AntiSec just wanted more negative attention towards the US Government. I'm interested to see where this goes.

Or you know, governments never hide anything

Don't like to sound like a conspiracy theorist 'cause I don't like them but it doesn't sound too far fetched. Who knows what the IDs could be for though

SnaveZ said,
Sounds like AntiSec has some splaining to do! Seems like AntiSec just wanted more negative attention towards the US Government. I'm interested to see where this goes.

You're going to believe everything you hear and read now-a-days? The FBI needs both Apple AND Google to play nice so they can work in coop in case something does indeed come up.

Of course Apple is going to back up the FBI this time, this was a breach and leak of personal information abetted by the users of Apple products themselves. The FBI/private contractors do not want people to know they contract with such companies or are currently holding any information pertaining to PII.

What do you think the point of SOPA/PIPA and many other never-ending bills of the like was? Do your research and please ask yourself.

Even atrocities like this,
https://rt.com/news/apple-patent-transmission-block-408/ are common in today's practice. Should anything shock you anymore...

I'm just waiting for the leaked emails to Apple from FBI agents telling apple to say they didn't give them anything... oh the irony, it almost hurts.

... or Apple and the FBI are lying ?

I mean, not like that wouldn't be the obvious thing to do once your "partner " screws up.

So let me get this straight: I am to believe Apple is not in cahoots with the FBI/Government after their blatent lies concerning the botched 'raid' on Sergio Calderon's home during the infamous 'iPhone 5' scandle last year? Did everyone forget how they stonewalled (along with the SFPD) that they had ANY involvement? Here, let me refresh your memory. http://blogs.sfweekly.com/thes...9/iphone_5_apple_police.php

I am calling bull****.

I hear you, it's amazing how people just forget about things like the "secret rooms" and NSA's own admissions to intercepting data at the backbone. This is just so lower level LE can get to people easier. The illusion of freedom is just that.

Hahaiah said,
I hear you, it's amazing how people just forget about things like the "secret rooms" and NSA's own admissions to intercepting data at the backbone. This is just so lower level LE can get to people easier. The illusion of freedom is just that.
Oh good 'ole 641a. Good times that people soon forget. Then back up the government as if they'd never do anything like that.. except for that one time they all forgot about.

Then there's the NSA who got their arses ripped by congress and others for overstepping their electronic surveillance authority after 9/11. So much so that they effectively wiretapped the entire country. Even congress said at the very least every living person in America that used anything electronic (yes, even dinosaur landline telephones) was listened to at least once by their equipment and/or agents.

Messed up thing is: nothing happened to them.

Somehow lots of you won't trust the government or Apple but will trust a random bunch of guys?

Not saying it's true or not, but it's amazing how people react.

Me, I have a completely open mind.

testman said,
Somehow lots of you won't trust the government or Apple but will trust a random bunch of guys?

Not saying it's true or not, but it's amazing how people react.

Me, I have a completely open mind.

I think most people are saying it's more plausible that the hackers are telling some version of the truth than what the FBI and Apple are saying.

Not that we trust them. Trust no one is the going phrase these days.

Question - Apple claims they never gave the FBI the numbers, the FBI claims they dint get the numbers from Apple. Apple says the FBI nver asked them for the numbers. So please tell us how they got the numbers?

I see only 2 possible answers, APple gave them the numbers or the FBI stole them.

Oh crap where is the videos of an airplane hiting the Pentagon...oh wait, this is the first time a plane crashed in the middle of a feild and there was no plane parts, no seats, no luggage, no bodies, no fuel, no wings, no engines. A plane flew into the WTC and all but destroyed the buildings. Yet both 110 stories building had chair, computers, people, file cabinets, phones and more, yet in the debri you found none of that.

The planes left a hole the size to a semi facing the long way in the WTC buildings, but left a hole only 20 feet wide on the pentagon.

Wake up people. If you take a 757 and nose dive it intpo the ground at full speed, it will leave significant parts all over the place including the impact zone. The Feds are a bunch of liars. Why do they need to tell us the truth, when people are willing ot belive whatever they are told? Ap0ple isnt going to tell the truth even when they are cold busted lying.

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