Apple Launches 8 Core Mac Pro

Meet the latest addition to the Mac Pro family: The world's first 3.0GHz, 8-core Intel Xeon-based Mac Pro. Consider the bar officially raised.

Performance standard
No matter which Mac Pro model you choose — 8-core or quad-core Intel Xeon — each delivers advanced performance, workstation graphics, and unparalleled expansion in so many possible configurations, your imagination has finally met its match.

Intel Xeon Processor
Opt for the 8-core Mac Pro and you get the power of two Quad-Core Intel Xeon "Clovertown" processors running at 3.0GHz. Or choose a quad-core Mac Pro featuring two Dual-Core Intel Xeon "Woodcrest" processors and decide how fast they fly: 2.0GHz, 2.66GHz, or 3.0GHz. At 3.0GHz, the quad-core Mac Pro runs up to 2x faster than the Power Mac G5 Quad.1

Unparalleled Expansion
Mac Pro accommodates up to four drives and 3TB of storage, offers eight DIMM slots to fill with up to 16GB of RAM, and provides up to two SuperDrives. It also gives you four PCI Express slots and lots of I/O options for ultimate flexibility.

Killer Graphics
Looking for high-performance workstation graphics? You've come to the right place. Three graphics card options let you choose the card that meets your specific needs. And every one lets you connect up to two displays, including at least one 30-inch Apple Cinema HD Display.

More than 33 million possible configurations
You're the expert. With build-to-order options available for processors, graphics cards, memory, hard drives, optical drives, and other features and components, the über-configurable Mac Pro lets you build your personal dream machine. The Mac you've been waiting for.

News source: Apple.com

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ya thats a sick config but you can build a PC with those specs too, and for much less I may add (the price isnt stated but I have a feeling it won't be under $10,000). Also interesting for how "killer graphics" they talk about just the monitor and not the graphics card.

The Mac Pro is a workstation-class computer. You could build a computer as good for gaming for a lot less, but it would not have the bus power to support as many high-bandwidth expantion cards and its overall I/O would simply not mesure up.

If you want a PC like the Intel Mac Pro then look at Dell's 690.

Why is their CPU's so insane and their graphics cards so crappy? At least in comparison to an 8 core CPU... Can you say "bottleneck"? Geforce 8's are out and they're a generation behind at best.

And why go so overkill with the CPU, unless this is just intended solely for server use (it sounds like it isn't with their talk of workstation use). So few apps will benefit from 8 cores anyway, and only very niched ones will make serious use of that architecture, like math apps such as Matlab. I'm not sure if one of the premier Apple apps like Photoshop will benefit that greatly from super heavily paralleled CPU's. I can only see one real "Apple-ish" use for those -- CG rendering.

CAD, Maya, video work, even audio work (though not as much) can all benefit from this. Sure programs like photoshop don't need it...these systems have always been tailored for very intensive work and not the average home computer. The faster you can work, the more money you save, and when rendering large animations, for instance, this will save you a LOT of time.

In other words, it has a fraction of the possible configurations of PCs and supports fewer displays. My imagination has certainly been matched

What exactly is special about this? Yes, they got loads of stuff into it ... so can any manufacturer. It doesn't make it affordable or popular.

I bet for what this Mac costs you could build a 16, 32 or even 64 core PC server-class machine with a RAID array of 10000RPM SCSI drives.
You think "yeah right"? Show me the price on this pile and I'll show you a ripoff, impressive specs but I guarantee you not only pay for them but pay extra to get a little Apple sticker on the front of the case.
I'm waiting until OS/X runs on sanely priced hardware.

yeah, Apple computers kind of lost their magic after switching to Intel (imho)
I guess everybody knows by now they are paying for the Apple brand name, the support and the ability to run OS/X.

But the 16 cores pc server with 10K rpm scsi drives was a but exaggerated, have you looked up prices of pc server hardware lately? (Oh, and make sure you don't skip those scsi u320 raid controllers and the 10K rpm hd's )

hapbt said,
I bet for what this Mac costs you could build a 16, 32 or even 64 core PC server-class machine with a RAID array of 10000RPM SCSI drives.
You think "yeah right"? Show me the price on this pile and I'll show you a ripoff, impressive specs but I guarantee you not only pay for them but pay extra to get a little Apple sticker on the front of the case.
I'm waiting until OS/X runs on sanely priced hardware.

Now THAT is comedy gold. You've never even looked at prices for a server-class machine have you? Upper four figures, lower five. The Apple doesn't even hit 5000.

Dell's PowerEdge 2900 also has the quad core processors in them...2 in fact. Those servers START at just over $7000.

Now THAT is comedy gold. You've never even looked at prices for a server-class machine have you? Upper four figures, lower five. The Apple doesn't even hit 5000.

Dell's PowerEdge 2900 also has the quad core processors in them...2 in fact. Those servers START at just over $7000.[/quote]

I just bought a PowerEdge 1900 with 2 for these quad core processors and two 15k RPM drives, 4GB of RAM and a few other options for $4,500.

Anyway, this is a workstation not a server; it is silly to compare its prices to a server. If you want to compare Apples to Dells stack this up against Dell's Precision 690; you will find comparable options and prices (I think the Dell is actually a tad more, but notably has SAS drives in place of the lower performing SATA drives Apple uses).

Now THAT is comedy gold. You've never even looked at prices for a server-class machine have you? Upper four figures, lower five. The Apple doesn't even hit 5000.

Dell's PowerEdge 2900 also has the quad core processors in them...2 in fact. Those servers START at just over $7000.

I just bought a PowerEdge 1900 with 2 for these quad core processors and two 15k RPM drives, 4GB of RAM and a few other options for $4,500.

Anyway, this is a workstation not a server; it is silly to compare its prices to a server. If you want to compare Apples to Dells stack this up against Dell's Precision 690; you will find comparable options and prices (I think the Dell is actually a tad more, but notably has SAS drives in place of the lower performing SATA drives Apple uses).

sphbecker said,

I just bought a PowerEdge 1900 with 2 for these quad core processors and two 15k RPM drives, 4GB of RAM and a few other options for $4,500.

Anyway, this is a workstation not a server; it is silly to compare its prices to a server. If you want to compare Apples to Dells stack this up against Dell's Precision 690; you will find comparable options and prices (I think the Dell is actually a tad more, but notably has SAS drives in place of the lower performing SATA drives Apple uses).

Heh, yeah I've never looked at server prices :) I mean, I've only ordered a couple hundred servers in my life so, I can see where you're coming from on that.

hmm, I have no doubt they'll have some nice graphics cards utilizing every single drop of those PCI Express slots.

Swordnyx said,
Alienware is unbeatable in gaming. The End.

Alienware is overpriced. The End. If you know what you are doing, you can build a computer equal to or better and beat Alienware's prices quite easily.

great for content creators!

your average user will never get the full use out of it, but damn...considering processing power, its insane.

I thought Xeons, were not meant for media systems, only servers. AND 8 cores, is there anything out there now that needs that much

can anyone tell me why apple always use dated video cards. geforce 7300 is hardly advance. why dont apple use 8800gtx or something?????

It's because they haven't updated it in a long time. When it went out in August, they were not really dated... unless you're a gaming freak.

What I wonder is why they haven't updated the other components...!

Three graphics card options let you choose the card that meets your specific needs.

Geforce 7300 / Quadro FX 4500 / Radeon 1900 XT - only one of which is underpowered.

These systems are aimed at people rendering video or other workstation type tasks, not at gamers. The video cards they offer are more than capable of the type of work they are intended for.

roadwarrior said,
These systems are aimed at people rendering video or other workstation type tasks, not at gamers. The video cards they offer are more than capable of the type of work they are intended for.

You don't understand. Professional video rendering requires powerful video cards (look for nVidia Quadro)

RealFduch said,

You don't understand. Professional video rendering requires powerful video cards (look for nVidia Quadro)

And here I thought matrox's Parhelia was still king of the mountain for professional requirements..

For an average user point of view, yeah it's a waste of money. For a scientist or someone in cinema, it's really not a waste of money

PsykX said,
For an average user point of view, yeah it's a waste of money. For a scientist or someone in cinema, it's really not a waste of money ;)

What would actually be interesting is to see a 4x4 system for a total of 16 cores. Still, I wonder if the code has been optimized to run on eight cores. At the very least (after thinking about it for a moment) one could assign tasks for select cores (i.e. system tasks) and maybe virtualization. Maybe we don't need a dedicated CPU with four or more cores (than again maybe not).

oh my god.
waste of money my a$$, this is going to be killer!!!
Talk about taking video/audio/rendering to a new level!

Typhon said,
Who do you think you are Steven Spielberg. Do you need 8 cores to e-mail and chat?

Do you think you're God? If not, don't assume you know what everyone does with their computer... The parent even mentioned audio/video rendering, which is where this kind of power is needed. :suspicious:

Typhon said,
Who do you think you are Steven Spielberg. Do you need 8 cores to e-mail and chat?

Who said they were chatting...he he he he!

They also dropped the price of the Apple Cinema displays
30" now $1799.00
23" now $899.00
20" now $599.00

What's wrong with your waist?

Keep money in your wallet, not on your waist. It would be a waste to lose (not loose) it.


Anyway, why? This is obviously aimed at the tech crowd who need that kind of horsepower for things like CG/video rendering.

Swordnyx said,
I hate the expensive part.. To get a Mac thats like my PC it costs $13,000! And my PC costs $4,100!

Clearly you are not compairing Apples to Apples (no pun intended).