Apple mugs Think Secret

Acclaimed Apple news site Think Secret is to close, following the settlement of a lawsuit from Apple.The site's proprietor, 22-year-old Harvard student Nick Ciarelli, said in a short statement:

"Apple and Think Secret have settled their lawsuit, reaching an agreement that results in a positive solution for both sides. As part of the confidential settlement, no sources were revealed and Think Secret will no longer be published. Nick Ciarelli, Think Secret's publisher, said 'I'm pleased to have reached this amicable settlement, and will now be able to move forward with my college studies and broader journalistic pursuits.'"

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Nick Ciarelli "I'm pleased to have reached this amicable settlement, and will now be able to move forward with my college studies and broader journalistic pursuits."

I don't know about any of you but it sounds to me that we won't be hearing the last of Nick. Caa - chiiing.

That's a good point. I wonder if that would apply if the site had been set up as a simple local newsletter sent out by snail mail and the website had been advertised as a way to read articles from the publication online.

I wonder if Apple realizes how much this says about their company.

It's no different than their moderators deleting posts on their message boards about technical issues.

When the truth hurts too much delete it, cover it up, or overshadow it with an even shinier iPod. That's the Apple way.

It says that they're concerned about trade secrets being disseminated, and those concerns are grounded in law.

How many more ways do you want this said???

LTD said,
It says that they're concerned about trade secrets being disseminated, and those concerns are grounded in law.

How many more ways do you want this said???

You're right LTD, that is the point of this article/news story. Never-the-less, C_guy still has a valid point about how Apple covers up it's "short comings". It's just the way it.

RAID 0 said,

OK. NO. Autopatcher was shut down to "stop" people that pirate a Windows OS from updating. Do you see Microsoft shutting down forums that talk about Windows issues and problems? DO YOU? Nope.. didn't think so. Try again!


Microsoft denies that it's related to piracy, just like they deny that WGA is related to preventing pirates (it's to "inform" people).

Also, keep in mind Microsoft has caused disasters for Neowin before. Big companies are very protective of their secrets. It's just the way it is.

Apple sued Think Secret almost three years ago, alleging that it leaked trade secrets.

Did he disclose that Apple sells crap for $$$?

Did he disclose that Apple sells crap for $$$?

Name 1 product Apple has on sale which is crap? I expect you to point me to actual reviews of said crap. Maybe Neowin's reviews, or the Registers.

While Apple products may not be for everyone, the one thing I can say is that I have never bought a crap one. Each has had excellent build quality, styling, usability and design. Each has had a decent spec, a decent OS and decent support.

Sure hardware has had issues, batteries like most computer manufacturers, ATI chips failing in the G3 iBooks. Most of the time thats down to Apple's suppliers, the same ones which supply the rest of the computer industry.

shadowmatt said,

Name 1 product Apple has on sale which is crap? I expect you to point me to actual reviews of said crap. Maybe Neowin's reviews, or the Registers.

While Apple products may not be for everyone, the one thing I can say is that I have never bought a crap one. Each has had excellent build quality, styling, usability and design. Each has had a decent spec, a decent OS and decent support.

Sure hardware has had issues, batteries like most computer manufacturers, ATI chips failing in the G3 iBooks. Most of the time thats down to Apple's suppliers, the same ones which supply the rest of the computer industry.

Apple 1710 monitors back in 1997 were a disaster. Utter crap, they were. I would estimate in the company I worked for, about 1 in 5 failed over a period of a year and had to be replaced. Also, there were Mac models that were junk. Just rubbish-y junk. It always depended on which model, for whatever reason, but yes, Apple did/do/will make crap products.

Deal with it

michael.dobrofsky said,
Apple 1710 monitors back in 1997 were a disaster. Utter crap, they were. I would estimate in the company I worked for, about 1 in 5 failed over a period of a year and had to be replaced. Also, there were Mac models that were junk. Just rubbish-y junk. It always depended on which model, for whatever reason, but yes, Apple did/do/will make crap products.

Deal with it :)

Deal with it, Ha. :)

You couldnt do it, I said name 1 product the Apple HAS on sale. Apple doesnt sell 1710 monitors anymore, like you said 1997, thats 10 years ago. When Apple wasnt popular or doing well. Things have changed a lot in the company. Even back then most of their products were solid. We have numerous G3 towers still running.


Sadly, this will be forgotten in time. Actually, I think Apple fans are happily ignoring this NOW.

Fanatic brand loyalty tends to demolish people's reasoning and common sense.

Edit: My point was, Apple is a company, like any other. Think Secret is a place where one could gather info on said company's practices, and Apple's practices are hardly decent. They need to maintain blind brand loyalty, and with a site around like Think Secret, that makes it a little hard to maintain the "Good company" image it is so heavily using.

What exactly are Apple fans suppose to do in this situation? This is sadly one of those things that's going to happen when you go up against a company with $15 billion compared to a 22 year old who's trying to make it through college.

There's no way he could have won to begin with. It is called facing the facts, that's common sense. Apple is a company that does not want their products leaked, plain and simple, and they'll sue your ass to stop you from leaking.

It is a sad day, but it isn't the end of the world though. And this doesn't change Apple's products, shoot it won't even change us hearing about upcoming products. It might slow the news down, but it won't stop it.

You're absolutely right, I am indeed ignoring it (NOW, as you put it.)

Here's probably why:

http://www.ipwatchdog.com/tradesecret.html

Apple sued Think Secret almost three years ago, alleging that it leaked trade secrets.

In any case, Apple thought what Ciarelli was doing was illegal. A judge somewhere agreed. Apple and Ciarelli arrived at a settlement. End of story.

There is no blind brand loyalty, just brand loyalty. It's built up over the course of years. As long as Apple keeps fulfilling its customers' expectations, that loyalty will continue. Seems they're doing a damned fine job of it so far.

LTD said,
You're absolutely right, I am indeed ignoring it (NOW, as you put it.)

Here's probably why:

http://www.ipwatchdog.com/tradesecret.html

Apple sued Think Secret almost three years ago, alleging that it leaked trade secrets.

In any case, Apple thought what Ciarelli was doing was illegal. A judge somewhere agreed. Apple and Ciarelli arrived at a settlement. End of story.

There is no blind brand loyalty, just brand loyalty. It's built up over the course of years. As long as Apple keeps fulfilling its customers' expectations, that loyalty will continue. Seems they're doing a damned fine job of it so far.

My expectations of Apple are: perfection!

They're commercials and their attitude makes it sound like they are 100% perfect. If they delivered what they promised i wouldn't be reading about problems that their software and hardware faces. That guy is lucky that they didn't make him pay a trillion bagillion dollars though. I'm happy for him. I'd have been scared ****less if a big company came after me.

<snipped - rule 10>

^ You do realize that a company isn't going to have an ad stating, "hey we're only 25% perfect, in fact we suck, but buy our product anyway."

Come on, this is the real world. Of course Apple is going to be smug about their products, they sell. They do exactly what their shareholders want them to do: bring in more money. Look at Apple stock and then look at Microsoft's stock. Seems to me that the clear winner is Apple.

Hurmoth said,
^ You do realize that a company isn't going to have an ad stating, "hey we're only 25% perfect, in fact we suck, but buy our product anyway."

Come on, this is the real world. Of course Apple is going to be smug about their products, they sell. They do exactly what their shareholders want them to do: bring in more money. Look at Apple stock and then look at Microsoft's stock. Seems to me that the clear winner is Apple.

Agreed, but it seems very few people have a basic understanding of business/marketing. It's pretty laughable.