Apple Profits Surge 67%

Electronics maker Apple Inc. (formerly Apple Computer) saw profits surge by 67% in the three months to the end of September, thanks to demand for its widely popular Mac computers and iPods. The company also announced that it had sold more than one million units of its new iPhone, helping it make a whopping $904 million in the period, against $542m a year before. Total sales reached $6.2 billion as Apple set a record for the number of its computers sold in a quarter. The results comfortably beat expectations of analysts.

Apple said it had sold 1.12 million iPhones - towards the top end of predictions, while it also shipped 2.2 million Macintosh computers and 10.2 million iPods. Analyst Tim Bajarin of Creative Strategies said that iPhone sales were raising awareness of the brand. "There's no question that Mac sales are still having a halo effect from the iPod and iPhone," he said. "Our own survey of Apple stores shows that Mac [computer] sales continued to be strong even in this last quarter. More and more people have become interested in the Mac because of Apple's ease of use."

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When it comes to technology, I refuse to buy something because it looks nice or has a fancy logo/name attached to it. Until Apple starts to offer technology that is genuinely better than the competition (and not just different as in the case of the touch screens), then I don't see anything to justify their ridiculous price tags.

Which "technology" are you talking about? The iPhone? iPod? Macs? OS X? Is it the hardware or the software that has raised your level of consumer-consciousness?

Kushan said,
When it comes to technology, I refuse to buy something because it looks nice or has a fancy logo/name attached to it. Until Apple starts to offer technology that is genuinely better than the competition (and not just different as in the case of the touch screens), then I don't see anything to justify their ridiculous price tags.

What the hell are you crapping on about - MacBook + MacOS X speaks for itself. Just because you've lived a naive existance doesn't mean we're all smoking from your choice of drugs.

"genuinely better than the competition' - what the hell do you call MacOS X - a singing and dancing elephant?

The technology is not usually that much better, sometimes it is thou.
What they do, do better is packaging it better and having better usability.

They also have the advantage of being in control of the platform so are able to move faster then the herd relying on MS plus they can do stuff like dropping floppys before everyone else, etc

That's good work for Apple.

Though i don't agree with some of their tactics, Apple has made some good paths towards their marketing in terms and their markets they are aiming at. Mac OS X is leaning towards a very friendly home-user operating system. iPods success speaks for itself. In reality Apple is giving Microsoft a good run for it's money in several areas, don't get me wrong Linux like Ubuntu is too. But this is really just proof that when a company works and focuses on what it's after, it really does pay off. Microsoft have spread them selfs too thin and are causing many products to become back-seat priority and many others to jump ship.

It's good work for them and hopefully onward and upward and smooth, fair and quality competition from here.

Vista is a failure like ME but Windows XP revived windows. Apple is driving MS back to basics with Windows 7 by reducing the cores load, increasing stability and capability. Windows 7 will be a complete overhaul and will definitely see features incomplete or scrapped in vista make it to market such as WinFS "Hopefully". Whats funny is that Apples success is also forcing MS not to reveal much of their plans to the public as this only led to Apple copying and bringing these features to market faster than MS and by the time Vista was finished Apple had refined these features to the T.

So i say go on join Apple but remember one thing they don't have the intricate knowledge of thier own OS as MS has of Windows because they did not Make OSX from scratch but instead borrowed it from Unix. MS has the opportunity to really change the game and the way OSs work. While the Unix source code is open trust me the original programmers usually see the complete purpose of code at implementation.

P.S. If you don't think computers are a way of life then you are missing the point of the digital age. Soon computers will be integrated into everything and they will become life. Without obsessed users the IT industry would not be as robust or exciting.

Apple is doing a lot, yes, but I don't think their market share is nearly big enough to drive MS toward doing anything. Masses of reviewers and customers I think are doing that.

Apple doesn't have intricate knowledge of their own OS? You might have a bit of a point here, as the operating system is indeed based off of UNIX code that the Mac team did not write. However, how many millions of lines of code make up Windows? How many developers exactly contribute to Windows? Do you really think that one person or a few people at Microsoft looking at Windows as a whole really have any idea of the big picture when it comes to how Windows works?

I couldn't be sure but I'd think it's a similar situation.

Computers are a way of life, yes. However, the way Apple markets their products as catalysts of 'your digital lifestyle' is very lame. I use the computer to do just about everything but that doesn't make any real statement about my lifestyle, at least not in the way that Apple intends. I think that's what you're talking about anyway.

I bet you won't be hearing the fanboys say that apple is making an "obscene" profit.......like they do with
oil companies, Microsoft, pharmaceutical companies, et al.

I still can't get myself to use OSX full time... there is still stuff about it that I just don't like. but hte OS itself is good... just can't see myself leaving windows for it until they have a really good development framework that is easy like .NET Framework also... and isn't java.. or mono

Can't tell for sure, but it seems to me that Cocoa + Core libraries are clearly better than Java or .net at least when working with graphics and media in general, user interfaces seems also easy to create with interface builder. There is also a note about Objective-C used by Apple that it supports garbace collection, interfaces and similar stuff that makes pretty similar to C# in ease of use. The problem of both .net and Cocoa is that they are closed to the platform, however Cocoa seems to be built on more solid foundations.
I would choose Java for cross-platform/secure/server-side application and Cocoa for MacOS X only client application. Problem of .net is that although using CLI it's not cross-platform in fact and bound to old Windows components. Mono is showing clearly in tests that it's not production ready regarding stability, compatibility and performance (several times slower than Java/C++/C# in most tests). It's also still "only" C language that allows insecure constructs and behaves pretty different in runtime than Java. There are also problems with patents owned by Microsoft and also patents related to Java owned by Sun that Sun allowed to use Microsoft temporarly (until 2009 I guess) for pretty much money and have to renegotiated in the future.
That's my opinion. I used to be C++ programmer started developing in Java about 5 years ago and working in Java till now (with quite short C# episode).

neufuse said,
I still can't get myself to use OSX full time... there is still stuff about it that I just don't like. but hte OS itself is good... just can't see myself leaving windows for it until they have a really good development framework that is easy like .NET Framework also... and isn't java.. or mono

I'm learning C right now, and believe me, Apple makes programming, thanks to Cocoa, alot easier. As for 'easy to use languages' - install Mono + Cocoa# if you want C#, VB etc.

Great. It's good to see some intelligent posting by Windows/Linux/etc. users about Mac computers, and not the usual "OMG MACS SUX!!1". I personally love my mac, and it's great to see Apple doing so well.

I just wished people would get over their fanboyism, take a step back, and look at a computer as a tool, not a lifestyle. People like tools to work for them, and if they get their job done with their tool their way, good for them.

My preference is towards *nix operating systems in general, and use Photoshop on a daily basis, so Mac was the natural choice. Saying one platform is better than another is just plain stupid.

K3vlar said,
Great. It's good to see some intelligent posting by Windows/Linux/etc. users about Mac computers, and not the usual "OMG MACS SUX!!1". I personally love my mac, and it's great to see Apple doing so well.

I just wished people would get over their fanboyism, take a step back, and look at a computer as a tool, not a lifestyle. People like tools to work for them, and if they get their job done with their tool their way, good for them.

My preference is towards *nix operating systems in general, and use Photoshop on a daily basis, so Mac was the natural choice. Saying one platform is better than another is just plain stupid.

I think the problem is that there is an attitude of 'winner takes all. I'd sooner seem more diversity; Mac, Linux, OpenSolaris, Windows etc. al competing, and companies FORCED to make their applications multiplatform and address customers needs. We all ultimately benefit from competition.

K3vlar said,
Great. It's good to see some intelligent posting by Windows/Linux/etc. users about Mac computers, and not the usual "OMG MACS SUX!!1". I personally love my mac, and it's great to see Apple doing so well.

I just wished people would get over their fanboyism, take a step back, and look at a computer as a tool, not a lifestyle. People like tools to work for them, and if they get their job done with their tool their way, good for them.

My preference is towards *nix operating systems in general, and use Photoshop on a daily basis, so Mac was the natural choice. Saying one platform is better than another is just plain stupid.

I personally have nothing against Apple...But the comment in bold applies mostly to Apple fans / fanboys. The reason is that Apple DOES sell a lifestyle. Most PC owners dont care what their PC looks like, just whats under the hood. Apple on the other sells the design and lifestyle aspects of their computers, i.e. no cables, looks sleek etc, etc...

I do agree with you, the concept of one being better than the other is silly.

Zhivago said,
Good job, Apple!

Bandwagon effect, aka Herd behaviour, seems to be very profitable for you!

mooooo yep just everyone running out and buying their Iphones and Itouch... over priced POS

Flae_qui said,
mooooo yep just everyone running out and buying their Iphones and Itouch... over priced POS

Cool down there, buddy. The iPhone has been consumer proved to be good stuff. The iPod touch is built on nearly identical technology. It sells. Obviously the price is right for someone, yes?

I can't afford either of them but I'm not making comments like this.

Flae_qui said,

mooooo yep just everyone running out and buying their Iphones and Itouch... over priced POS


I had no idea Apple were marketing these products as point of sale systems.