Apple reveals the iPhone 4S

The new iPhone 4S will look a lot like the iPhone 4, that's because it has the same exterior as the device. Despite that, the internals of the new device have been updated of the previous version of the phone.

The new device will have an A5 CPU, dual core graphics that boast up to 7x the performance, an 8MP camera and 1080P video recording capabilities as well. The update is a general warming over of the iPhone 4 to keep it competitive with the fleet of new Android and Windows Phone devices that will be released before the holiday season. The device will also combine GSM and CDMA into one chip which will reduce the two iPhone 4 models into one device. The iPhone 4S will also support HSDPA which will allow for 14.4 Mbps downloads which is faster than the current 3G speeds on the iPhone 4. The device will also have "eight hours of 3G talk time. Six hours of browsing, nine on WiFi. 10 hours of video, and 40 hours of music" according to Engadget.

The device will come in black and white and retail for 16GB: $199, 32GB for $299, 64GB for $399; the device will also be coming to AT&T, Verizon, and Sprint. It will also be headed to Canada, Australia, the UK, France, Germany, and Japan on October 14, many others will get it on the 28.

In general, the iPhone 4S is a modest update to the iPhone 4 but does not offer any new features such as NFC, LTE.

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or better still.. get an android!!

So glad I ditched my 3gs for the Galaxy S2, I feel like Ive had what the 4gs will have for nearly 6 motnhs now!

If you were especting a whole new design with the new iPhone, you're an idiot. They're following the same exact design profile. The iPhone 3G and iPhone 3GS were the same physically. The same for iPhone 4 and iPhone 4S.

Difference is, the iPhone 4S is infinitely more powerful, has a superior camera, has a better antenna, and is a World Phone. If you waited with the 3GS, this is the time to upgrade. If you have a 4, wait for the next gen. You shouldn't be wasting your money on a brand new phone every year anyway. It's that simple.

Edited by Orlando Rays, Oct 4 2011, 11:59pm :

I'm just waiting for them to add an IR port to the touch and ipad. Then talk about how you will be able to use it as a remote. In the next breath they will talk about how revolutionary it was for them to add an IR port.

The iPhone 4S... yes you may stand in line to buy one and waste a few hours, but after just 5 billion photos you will have saved that time back! Bargain I say.

The Apple faithful at work were ripping this announcement to shreds. I didn't get a chance to follow it, but one stop in the break room I knew I would be holding off on upgrading my wife's iPhone 3GS if possible.

I'm actually quite disappointed. I looked forward to having a complete overhaul of the iPhone 4 incl exterior design upgrades. Now I feel as if they added something but not enough.

Everyone is just dissapointed because they didn't introduce a bigger screen. Hopefully keeping it for the iPhone 5 next year.

Max™ said,
Everyone is just dissapointed because they didn't introduce a bigger screen. Hopefully keeping it for the iPhone 5 next year.

And if Apple continues like they do now, then iPhone 5 will be a totally new and revolutionary phone with only 1 new thing, a bigger screen.

Tom-Helge said,

And if Apple continues like they do now, then iPhone 5 will be a totally new and revolutionary phone with only 1 new thing, a bigger screen.

Sounds magical.

Max™ said,
Everyone is just dissapointed because they didn't introduce a bigger screen. Hopefully keeping it for the iPhone 5 next year.

It'll be the iPhone 6 and also you know they'll just come out with a camera that takes pictures in 0.5 seconds rather than something useful like upgrading the screen size.

Something curious about Siri:

Siri's actions and answers rely upon a growing ecosystem of partners,including:
Bing Answers, and Wolfram Alpha for factual question answering.
Bing and Google for web search.

I really don't see why everyone is up in arms here, maybe i wasn't expecting a fresh new design on the iphone. Do remember the Iphone 3 had the original and the 3gs. Its like the macbook and imac line they only do a serious refresh in design every 2-3 years, but do mini updates more on the hardware side. The iphone 4 externally is pretty sound, really no need to refresh after only a year, I mean really do you need a fresh newly designed phone every year?

The real question should be, do we need a press conference every time they do a minor update to their phone?

If there wasn't so much hype, people wouldn't be so disappointed.

threetonesun said,
The real question should be, do we need a press conference every time they do a minor update to their phone?

If there wasn't so much hype, people wouldn't be so disappointed.

true on this however if you look at what was talked about, it wasn't just the iphone, but the ipod. maybe they expect that it will sell better if it gets a press conference?

Siri won't work on the iphone 4, but it was available as a free download on the App Store, until right after the announcement then they pulled it. The free version is good enough for what most of us would use. The novelty of Siri wears off after a day or so. Good idea, but takes a major change to the way you organize yourself.

"Hey guys, we're really late to the table bringing our hardware into line with other phones and that's it for another year... but hey.. at least you can take pictures in 1.1 SECONDS!! HELL YEAHHH!!"

Hey Apple, that's one amazing app launcher you've got there! I hope your "Find My iPhone" feature works because I'm about to throw mine in the trash and I've always wanted to find out where it goes.

Enron said,
Hey Apple, that's one amazing app launcher you've got there! I hope your "Find My iPhone" feature works because I'm about to throw mine in the trash and I've always wanted to find out where it goes.

HAHAHAHAHHA

Enron said,
Hey Apple, that's one amazing app launcher you've got there! I hope your "Find My iPhone" feature works because I'm about to throw mine in the trash and I've always wanted to find out where it goes.

LMFAO!!!

Apple is the only company in the world who can keep their mouths shut over a new product for months only to reveal that the long wait was pretty much for nothing and is still getting praised doing so.
I was really looking forward to an iPhone 5 but this is just a disappointment all over. Of course, Siri sounds pretty cool but that does not justify a delay of 3 to 4 months. Seriously, the only reason they had to keep the new iPhone a secret was the fact that it was clearly nothing new. If the press had reported about this earlier, people would've known that this is pretty much a load of bull****. But now they were able to put their 'magic' adjectives around this failure of a product and people will believe that this is the next huge thing.
I don't see any justification for such a delay. But since I love the iPhone and my 3GS is really getting old, I'll probably be dumb enough to fall for apple's strategy and by the iPhone 4S. I'll still check other options because this time apple pretty much blew it for me. -.-

JPXi said,
This is some kind of joke, right? This can't be all they've got....

Seriously Apple, this was totally not worthy of a keynote speech.
Nice try with the marketing ploy, but unfortunately there was not much substance to back it up.

Yawn, Apple isn't innovating anymore. These features are all part of Windows Phone 7... and the "hardware upgrade" just brings it into line with everyone else.

Owen W said,
Yawn, Apple isn't innovating anymore. These features are all part of Windows Phone 7... and the "hardware upgrade" just brings it into line with everyone else.
They've stopped innovating since the iphone 1...Now, watch them continue suing more Android manufacturers because they are losing market share.

tsupersonic said,
They've stopped innovating since the iphone 1...Now, watch them continue suing more Android manufacturers because they are losing market share.

In the US market at least they've not lost market share but rather have hit a plateau. It'll be interesting to see how the smartphone market plays out over the next 24 months.

Quite a bit of a let down but then you can do that when you have so many people willing to part with their hard earned cash for any type of upgrade. I was hoping for a decent spec iPhone 5 as Im so close to upgrade - the 4S will probably not be my choice.

Eberton Sobreira said,
I'm pretty sure that Apple disappointed a lot of fans today.

Everyone seems disappointed because it's not called iPhone 5.. going over the specs, they are amazing 'for an iphone' 7x better gfx, 2x powerful, the camera is A*, siri will be a lot of fun.. apart from the exterior it's a completely new phone... coupled with iOS5 and iCloud the whole thing is going to be pretty great. Who cares what its called what was everyone expecting? a phone that tucks you into bed at night.

If it had a new design or a slightly bigger screen* then it would have been THE BEST THING EVER!!!.. where's the logic in that?

* a bigger screen would have been nice but any bigger and you struggle to touch the phone screen surface with 1 hand, as already demonstrated with bigger screen phones on the market, if they could make the screen bigger and keep the phone the same size that would be niceeee

Uplift said,

Everyone seems disappointed because it's not called iPhone 5.. going over the specs, they are amazing 'for an iphone' 7x better gfx, 2x powerful, the camera is A*, siri will be a lot of fun.. apart from the exterior it's a completely new phone... coupled with iOS5 and iCloud the whole thing is going to be pretty great. Who cares what its called what was everyone expecting? a phone that tucks you into bed at night.

If it had a new design or a slightly bigger screen* then it would have been THE BEST THING EVER!!!.. where's the logic in that?

* a bigger screen would have been nice but any bigger and you struggle to touch the phone screen surface with 1 hand, as already demonstrated with bigger screen phones on the market, if they could make the screen bigger and keep the phone the same size that would be niceeee


Yes, the "amazing" specs are the same as what everyone else has had for almsot a year now! Nice one!

Owen W said,

Yes, the "amazing" specs are the same as what everyone else has had for almsot a year now! Nice one!

thats why i said 'for an iphone' not everyone wants to jump ship, i'm happy with the apple eco-system, bringing the iphone in line with everything else is good enough for me.

Uplift said,

Everyone seems disappointed because it's not called iPhone 5.. going over the specs, they are amazing 'for an iphone' 7x better gfx, 2x powerful, the camera is A*, siri will be a lot of fun.. apart from the exterior it's a completely new phone... coupled with iOS5 and iCloud the whole thing is going to be pretty great. Who cares what its called what was everyone expecting? a phone that tucks you into bed at night.

If it had a new design or a slightly bigger screen* then it would have been THE BEST THING EVER!!!.. where's the logic in that?

* a bigger screen would have been nice but any bigger and you struggle to touch the phone screen surface with 1 hand, as already demonstrated with bigger screen phones on the market, if they could make the screen bigger and keep the phone the same size that would be niceeee

People are disappointed because lots of other phones have had these specs or better for a while now, and with an iPhone people know that "that's it" for another year.

Supports 1080p recording? I thought 720p was good enough, and that is why the Apple TV didn't support it. High resolution is good when viewing the retina display, it is good when recording, but using your non-Apple 50" television, nah, don't need high resolution. But when Apple finally announces the iTV (you know, that rumor that neowin likes to resurrect every couple months) then it will be magical, because then you can view your movies recorded with your iPhone in full resolution, and not a downgraded video.

Currently a iPhone 3GS owner. I prefer Windows Phone (Microsoft) over iPhone 4S.

Edited by deep1234, Oct 4 2011, 7:03pm :

deep1234 said,
I am sure that Windows Phone (Microsoft) can come up with even better.

Why do you say Apple is complacent with its iPhone launch. From what I've heard, the hardware is really top notch here and has undergone a major upgrade. If the design of the iPhone 4S is identical to iPhone 4, it simply means that the old design is still the best.

This is a great example of what happens when a company becomes complacent.

They think they can rest on their laurels and not lift a finger, and the public will just eat it all because its Apple.

Well I'm sorry, you have to do better than that to get our applause!

let's keep it real guys. i'm still reeling from the fact that the iphone 4s is available in BLACK AND WHITE. Go blow, Samsung.

I can't wait to get this phone. Hey, I might even take out two contracts so i can have one in each colour!

Amazing.

Mr Winkle said,
let's keep it real guys. i'm still reeling from the fact that the iphone 4s is available in BLACK AND WHITE. Go blow, Samsung.

I can't wait to get this phone. Hey, I might even take out two contracts so i can have one in each colour!

Amazing.

Forget about a larger screen, being able to use a white iPhone during the daytime and a black iPhone during the nighttime makes all the difference.
Genius!!!

Open Minded said,
All that wait for some minor upgrades. Didn't fix the antenna? Still need a case. Apple could have done that, at least.

They actually did fix the antenna... But there's no way to tell yet if the new design won't have any faults

Open Minded said,
How so? If the exterior is the same...

From engadget liveblog:
"The antenna design looks like the current Verizon version, with the same basic groove placement."
"Our engineering system has worked really hard at advancing the state of the art... it can now intelligently switch between the two antennas between transmit and receive."

Interpret that as you will...

iPhone 4 user here... and I am exteremely disappointed, no screen size increase or compelling hardware upgrades

So now we'll see people sliding to Windows Phone and Android...

I don't really like Apple products but I still thought they'd do better than that. Disappointment for many I believe.

drazgoosh said,
So now we'll see people sliding to Windows Phone and Android...

I don't really like Apple products but I still thought they'd do better than that. Disappointment for many I believe.

I agree. I kind of thought that all of this competition would kick them in the butt. Apple seems to be a company that chokes when the pressure is on though...

drazgoosh said,

I don't really like Apple products but I still thought they'd do better than that. Disappointment for many I believe.

I agree. I thought something somewhat better would be shown...

Everybody seems to be saying it's a major disappointment.
Just an improvement of current specs, nothing exciting at all.
No larger screen or 3D display, No 4G, no NFC, no projector, no FM tuner.
And still no removable media (probably never), although I will give credit for larger storage.

I still am going to get it though.

htcz said,

Why?

Cause I have a phone upgrade to use and I can't stand this 1st generation, cracked-screen iPhone any longer.

But, given how utterly unimpressed I was with this release, I am now thinking about moving to android.

superconductive said,

No larger screen or 3D display, No 4G, no NFC, no projector, no FM tuner.
And still no removable media (probably never), although I will give credit for larger storage.

I don't see Apple ever adding an FM tuner, unless the silicon they are licensing comes with it for free at some point. They will claim that FM seems "dated" compared to a digital radio solution that Apple wants to sell users on.

superconductive said,

Cause I have a phone upgrade to use and I can't stand this 1st generation, cracked-screen iPhone any longer.

But, given how utterly unimpressed I was with this release, I am now thinking about moving to android.

October 11 - joint Samsung/Android event. They're expected to announce the Samsung Nexus Prime and Ice Cream Sandwich.. you might be more impressed by that

Wouldn't mind seeing some raw video footage and photos taken with the iphone 4s.

Its just a cpu/camera update really, better than nothing.

Mr Winkle said,
WOW. This is amazing. It's nearly as good as the 6 month old Galaxy S2.

I always thought they delayed this announcement so long just so they could even compete with the S2. Original specs were probably much lower and this is the best Apple could do. That's what happens when you send a toy company out to compete with an electronics manufacturer like Samsung.

Mr Winkle said,
WOW. This is amazing. It's nearly as good as the 6 month old Galaxy S2.

I like how they bragged about the camera taking pictures faster than the Galaxy S2.. probably because that's the only thing it IS faster at. Wow Apple, that's what everyone wants in a phone, something that takes fast pictures!

I actually lol'd at the cheesiness of that.

Enron said,

I always thought they delayed this announcement so long just so they could even compete with the S2. Original specs were probably much lower and this is the best Apple could do. That's what happens when you send a toy company out to compete with an electronics manufacturer like Samsung.

So you think they didn't intend to put in the same A5 processor they were already mass producing for the iPad 2? Why wouldn't they?

They did the same thing last year. A4 introduced with the iPad and then put into the iPhone 4.

And how thats the only comparison to the S2 that appeared in the graphs? It's basically selective info to make the 4S seem much better than it actually is.

People can say what they want about Android devices, but if an android handset came out with similar featuers to this, the world wouldnt have even taken the time to yawn. Just because its got an apple logo on it, its a big deal and everyone is out in force.

Enron said,

I always thought they delayed this announcement so long just so they could even compete with the S2. Original specs were probably much lower and this is the best Apple could do. That's what happens when you send a toy company out to compete with an electronics manufacturer like Samsung.

Today's annoucement explains a lot as to why Apple was so aggressively after Samsung. They knew that they wont be able to catch up with the S2 for another 1 whole year atleast and the only way to sell iphone over samsung were to stop samsung from selling.

a bit meh, okay device, my 3GS is almost up, might be better saving money and getting 4 and waiting for the 5.

Nothing wrong with the phone but as mentioned by some previously they need a bit of a redesign just for the sake of freshing things up.

ScottDaMan said,
No iPhone5.

Because of the battle between Samsung and Apple, Apple will now have to build the iPhone 5 from scratch with new parts from new vendors. People forget that almost everything inside of an iPhone is made or sourced through Samsung.

When Apple threw its hissy fit over the Samsung tablets (in truth made possible because Samsung essentially created the iPhone with Apple) they cost their users some very realworld long-term problems.

Migrating the entire iPhone hardware over to intel's new Atom line is no easy feat to accomplish on a yearly refresh cycle.

This iPhone is a stopgap while the real work goes on behind the scenes.

excalpius said,

Because of the battle between Samsung and Apple, Apple will now have to build the iPhone 5 from scratch with new parts from new vendors. People forget that almost everything inside of an iPhone is made or sourced through Samsung.

When Apple threw its hissy fit over the Samsung tablets (in truth made possible because Samsung essentially created the iPhone with Apple) they cost their users some very realworld long-term problems.

Migrating the entire iPhone hardware over to intel's new Atom line is no easy feat to accomplish on a yearly refresh cycle.

This iPhone is a stopgap while the real work goes on behind the scenes.

Can you explain the 3GS if the 4S exists because of this samsung thing? What's more plausible is Apple radically redesigns the phone every 2 versions not at every iteration

DomZ said,

Can you explain the 3GS if the 4S exists because of this samsung thing? What's more plausible is Apple radically redesigns the phone every 2 versions not at every iteration

The two points are not mutually exclusive. My point was that the REAL iPhone 5 will be delayed because of the switch from Samsung to intel innerds.

Apple manages to put out another incremental product that will have everyone flocking out in droves on Oct 14 and Oct 22 to throw their money away.

On the other hand, Siri was a pretty compelling demo.

dotf said,
Apple manages to put out another incremental product that will have everyone flocking out in droves on Oct 14 and Oct 22 to throw their money away.

On the other hand, Siri was a pretty compelling demo.


Just because it's a waste of money to you, doesn't mean it is for everyone else..

dotf said,
Apple manages to put out another incremental product that will have everyone flocking out in droves on Oct 14 and Oct 22 to throw their money away.

On the other hand, Siri was a pretty compelling demo.


Agreed. How very dull. A phone that will look like and function pretty much identical to the previous model. It'll just be slightly faster, and the pictures from the camera will be a bit sharper. Woohoo, here have 400 quid!

Walkie/Talkie said,

Just because it's a waste of money to you, doesn't mean it is for everyone else..

Sorry, I didn't mean to make it sound like I thought it was a waste of money, I meant to say, they will happily throw their money AT apple for this marginally improved device.