Apple sold 9 million iPhones over the weekend

Apple sold 9 million iPhones during the first weekend of availability. This massive sale should calm the whispers that consumers are falling out of love with Apple in favor of other mobile giants such as Samsung.

There were long lines at many Apple locations around the world filled with eager individuals who wanted to be among the first to try out Apple’s new iPhone 5s and 5c. While many thought that Apple may have intentionally not allowed 5s pre-orders to build longer lines, it does look like they genuinely were in short supplies of the devices.

The 9 million in sales is a new record for Apple, which will certainly help boost their stock price when the market opens later today. Apple also announced that over 200 million devices are now running iOS 7, which is a huge achievement for the company and developers too. 

Apple’s new iPhone 5s and 5c comes with iOS 7, which has been receiving mostly positive reviews, but not everyone seems to be pleased. The new flat look and updated UX is a bit of a change over iOS 6 and time will tell if iOS 7 is the best path forward for Apple.

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This came up on an RSS feed for me this morning. I knew that there'd be so much nerd rage about this news on Neowin later.

Use what you like. For some that's the iPhone.

Can't we all just get along?

I think Brad should change the title.
His leaves a lot to the imagination, whereas the Apple press release calls out the 5S and 5C models.

Leaving it this vague means people could be getting free iPhone 4Ses. Oh wait, free wouldn't count as a sale, but a unit shipped right?

Am I the only one who is taken by Apple's change in stance on the word, FREE, post Jobs?

That to me was the biggest Apple news of the quarter.

Free does not mean free. It is still purchased from Apple. For those that don't know, "free" on a contract just means they cell provider just ate the cost and/or worked in into their contract

deadonthefloor said,
I think Brad should change the title.
His leaves a lot to the imagination, whereas the Apple press release calls out the 5S and 5C models.

Leaving it this vague means people could be getting free iPhone 4Ses. Oh wait, free wouldn't count as a sale, but a unit shipped right?

Am I the only one who is taken by Apple's change in stance on the word, FREE, post Jobs?

That to me was the biggest Apple news of the quarter.


wingliston said,
Just when we thought people finally came to their senses.
They have. There is really no compelling reason for people to switch. The phone does what they need it too. Only we at Neowin argue over every single specification.

But how many iPhone 5S were sold? If we are comparing apples to apples (pardon the pun), that would be the best way to determine actual sales of the "high-end" phones.

If the 5C was not released at all, the now discontinued iPhone 5 would still be available (for the same price I might add both contract and full price). The 5C is just a colorful iPhone 5 minus the traditional shades (white/black), with minor bumps in battery and front camera.

So when the headline reads "Apple Sold A Record 9 Million New iPhones", that is sort of fudging the numbers a bit. This is a one-trick pony on Apples part. It looks great on paper this year to investors, shareholders and of course tech sites that cover such news. They sold 4 million more "new" iPhones than last year, but what will happen next year?

I am not trying to takeaway anything from what Apple did over the weekend, I just like comparing X to X and not X to XY.

Devices sold or booked? From what I understand at least online delivery is in october and I do not see any numbers on 5s or 5c. So all we know these numbers will actually ship over the next month or 6 weeks..

paulheu said,
Devices sold or booked? From what I understand at least online delivery is in october and I do not see any numbers on 5s or 5c. So all we know these numbers will actually ship over the next month or 6 weeks..

Who cares when they ship when Apple got the money already.

must be schadenfreude on my part but i do enjoy seeing how upset some posters here are upon any good news out of apple.
it's like a personal affront to them.
a religious crusade to them, of course, but to the rest of us, rather amusing.

It's funny to me because a lot of the people here who are the loudest about how much they hate Apple are like, "Yeah, I just updated my iPad to iOS 7..."

I noticed the article only says 9 million iPhones and does not break them down. They are still offering the 4S for free on contract.

RangerLG said,
I noticed the article only says 9 million iPhones and does not break them down. They are still offering the 4S for free on contract.
Come on now man, that's really reaching.

Leopard Seal said,
A little perspective - GTA 5 sold over 130 million copies in one day.

How many cans of coke are sold each day?

Leopard Seal said,
A little perspective - GTA 5 sold over 130 million copies in one day.

GTA 5 is about £50 straight up, then it's yours forever. iPhone is significantly more than that with or without a contract.

If the iPhone was £50 all in they'd probably sell similar figures.

Not that I'm putting down GTA's sales... that's incredible!

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Only on Neowin can you find such a ninny conversation about iphone sales. I have a GS3 on android, love it, don't give more thought than that and couldn't care less if other or more people like something else more.
If your precious windows phone is that good, people will buy it and it will grow, MS is large enough in every way to make that happen. If they don't, it won't, no excuses. This was a big day for Apple, they've been doing things right for so long, they can actually do things wrong and still be successful, MS wishes they had that, and it boils right down to user experience and needs, but go ahead and keep crying, it's very attractive. lol.

spy beef said,
Have WP8 phones even sold this many to date?

wp8 sold 9 million last quarter,apple was 32. the ignorance of some of you is pretty comical.

What is strange in all these comments, I don't see any let alone a collection of comments demanding that Apple verifies the numbers or dismisses them because they came from Apple.

In Microsoft stories about 'sales', everyone demands proof or alludes that the numbers are fictitious.

Mobius Enigma said,
What is strange in all these comments, I don't see any let alone a collection of comments demanding that Apple verifies the numbers or dismisses them because they came from Apple.

In Microsoft stories about 'sales', everyone demands proof or alludes that the numbers are fictitious.

You may want to re-read all the comments..... Fanboys, no matter what is their beliefs will always act as fanboys.

Lol indeed, the skeptics come around every year & spout that nonsense. A buggy iOS7, some overwrought fingerprint hack and an overpriced iPhone 5 in plastic couldn't put a dent in Apple's mindshare & popularity. They've got this on lock for the next year (or two if they release a larger screen iPhone next year). They're bound to have an unimpressive year in sales sooner or later, but clearly that's just not happening yet.

My Nokia 3310 still works and has a longer battery. I am on pay as you go and get unlimited texts and like 600mins for £10 a month then use the rest of that £10 to fund next month. My bill every 2 months is around £10.

When i go out, i always take my car with me anyway (disabled) and within my car i have put a Laptop and it has a built in computer (built it in myself with touch screen and old laptop behind dash, all connects online via BT WIFI what is free).

I have a 3DS and PSP for gaming (but i never really use them tbh no need for games i go out to be social not to sit on games, when indoors i have a PC, Xbox)

As for camera and stuff well i got a really nice Camera with some nice lences far better than any smart phone could compeat with.

My point is... Get an old laptop for like £50, a nice camera for about £300 second hand and then a 3310 for like £5 oh and a DS like £50... You will still end up saving money and end up with better results from what you want to do.

How people can justify spending this much on a phone is beyond me.

Vester said,
My Nokia 3310 still works and has a longer battery. I am on pay as you go and get unlimited texts and like 600mins for £10 a month then use the rest of that £10 to fund next month. My bill every 2 months is around £10.

When i go out, i always take my car with me anyway (disabled) and within my car i have put a Laptop and it has a built in computer (built it in myself with touch screen and old laptop behind dash, all connects online via BT WIFI what is free).

I have a 3DS and PSP for gaming (but i never really use them tbh no need for games i go out to be social not to sit on games, when indoors i have a PC, Xbox)

As for camera and stuff well i got a really nice Camera with some nice lences far better than any smart phone could compeat with.

My point is... Get an old laptop for like £50, a nice camera for about £300 second hand and then a 3310 for like £5 oh and a DS like £50... You will still end up saving money and end up with better results from what you want to do.

How people can justify spending this much on a phone is beyond me.

Because all that stuff on the iPhone is on one device and fits easily into your pocket? And it's so much more.

I have a PS3 but game more on my iPhone.
I have a Garmin sat-nav but use navigation more on my iPhone.
I have a Nikon D3200 dSLR but take pictures more on my iPhone.

Vester said,
My Nokia 3310 still works and has a longer battery. I am on pay as you go and get unlimited texts and like 600mins for £10 a month then use the rest of that £10 to fund next month. My bill every 2 months is around £10.

When i go out, i always take my car with me anyway (disabled) and within my car i have put a Laptop and it has a built in computer (built it in myself with touch screen and old laptop behind dash, all connects online via BT WIFI what is free).

I have a 3DS and PSP for gaming (but i never really use them tbh no need for games i go out to be social not to sit on games, when indoors i have a PC, Xbox)

As for camera and stuff well i got a really nice Camera with some nice lences far better than any smart phone could compeat with.

My point is... Get an old laptop for like £50, a nice camera for about £300 second hand and then a 3310 for like £5 oh and a DS like £50... You will still end up saving money and end up with better results from what you want to do.

How people can justify spending this much on a phone is beyond me.

Cool story bro

That's just it though why would you want or need to carry it around? I have never needed a SatNav out of my car, and the car has one already, Never needed to be that anti social to play games on phone when in the company of others, when i game i do so at home and i have much better devices than a phone for this.

I get the argument its a 1 device does all but what i don't get it why spend so much when you really have no need for 90% of that stuff.

I just see none of the stuff as usfull other than phone/text (whatsapp, kik viber are good ideas but i get free texts anyway so usless.)

Vester said,
That's just it though why would you want or need to carry it around? I have never needed a SatNav out of my car, and the car has one already, Never needed to be that anti social to play games on phone when in the company of others, when i game i do so at home and i have much better devices than a phone for this.

I get the argument its a 1 device does all but what i don't get it why spend so much when you really have no need for 90% of that stuff.

I just see none of the stuff as usfull other than phone/text (whatsapp, kik viber are good ideas but i get free texts anyway so usless.)

Key word: I (as in, YOU) You keeping talking about your needs, i'm sorry to break it to you.. not everyone is like you. You are one person. You are happy doing what you do, thats great.. but doesn't give you the right to dictate what people should do and buy just because YOU do.

Every company out there wishes they had as loyal of a fan base as Apple does. This should silence the haters who say apple is on the downfall. Same people keep coming back and buying their phones. Too bad those that don't understand this will just come up with other lame excuses.

Spicoli said,
Ever company wishes they had service providers secretly collecting their profit margin from their service fees.

Yes, I am sure they do.

Spicoli said,
Ever company wishes they had service providers secretly collecting their profit margin from their service fees.
Come on now man! Really?

stevan said,
Every company out there wishes they had as loyal of a fan base as Apple does. This should silence the haters who say apple is on the downfall. Same people keep coming back and buying their phones. Too bad those that don't understand this will just come up with other lame excuses.
Really? Samsung has them.

First Galaxy S device sold 10M+
Second Galaxy S devices sold 20M+
Third Galaxy S device sold 50M+
Fourth Galaxy S has already sold 35M in only 5 months.

First Galaxy Note device sold 10M+
Second Galaxy Note device sold 28M
Third Galaxy Note device is expect to sell nearly double the last

Samsung in 2009 sold about 40M phones, in 2010 they sold over 60M in 2011 they sold over 90M, in 2012 they sold over 100M. The last phone makers to sell 100M phones was RIM and Nokia. Even Apple hasn't sold 100M total phones in one year.

In Q3 2012, Samsung has already sold 90M phones with over 45M being smartphones and those 45M were broken up to 10M of the GS2, 30M of the GS3, 10M of the GN2 and the rest were the GN1 and other Galaxy devices like the Duos.

In the first quarter of 2013, Samsung sold 70M phones already. Most of which were Galaxy S III's.

Do you want to repeat what you said? And please louder this time so we can hear how it is better for you to be quiet.

You are welcome to keep trying, but please try harder.

Edited by Hi_XPecTa_Chens, Sep 23 2013, 5:36pm :

TechieXP said,
Really? Samsung has them.

First Galaxy S device sold 10M+
Second Galaxy S devices sold 20M+
Third Galaxy S device sold 50M+
Fourth Galaxy S has already sold 35M in only 5 months.

First Galaxy Note device sold 10M+
Second Galaxy Note device sold 28M
Third Galaxy Note device is expect to sell nearly double the last

Samsung in 2009 sold about 40M phones, in 2010 they sold over 60M in 2011 they sold over 90M, in 2012 they sold over 100M. The last phone makers to sell 100M phones was RIM and Nokia. Even Apple hasn't sold 100M total phones in one year.

In Q3 2012, Samsung has already sold 90M phones with over 45M being smartphones and those 45M were broken up to 10M of the GS2, 30M of the GS3, 10M of the GN2 and the rest were the GN1 and other Galaxy devices like the Duos.

In the first quarter of 2013, Samsung sold 70M phones already. Most of which were Galaxy S III's.

Do you want to repeat what you said? And please louder this time so we can hear how it is better for you to be quiet.

You are welcome to keep trying, but please try harder.

Your numbers are off. Try again.

stevan said,

Your numbers are off. Try again.

Really? Which ones...
Q3 2012- http://www.businessinsider.com...hones-as-apple-in-q3-2012-7

Galaxy S sold 10M its first year with a total of 24M to date.
Galaxy S 2 has sold 40M to date, it sold 20M its first year
Galaxy S III sold 9M in pre-order and 50M to this date
Galaxy Note combine has sold over 38M...
Galaxy S 4 sold 10M first month and 35M after 5 months
where are my numbers so wrong?

Samsung Q1 2013 it was report they had sold 70M phones
At the end of Q3 2012, Samsung sold 93M phones.

Edited by Hi_XPecTa_Chens, Sep 23 2013, 6:11pm :

TechieXP said,
Really? Samsung has them.

First Galaxy S device sold 10M+
Second Galaxy S devices sold 20M+
Third Galaxy S device sold 50M+
Fourth Galaxy S has already sold 35M in only 5 months.

First Galaxy Note device sold 10M+
Second Galaxy Note device sold 28M
Third Galaxy Note device is expect to sell nearly double the last

Samsung in 2009 sold about 40M phones, in 2010 they sold over 60M in 2011 they sold over 90M, in 2012 they sold over 100M. The last phone makers to sell 100M phones was RIM and Nokia. Even Apple hasn't sold 100M total phones in one year.

In Q3 2012, Samsung has already sold 90M phones with over 45M being smartphones and those 45M were broken up to 10M of the GS2, 30M of the GS3, 10M of the GN2 and the rest were the GN1 and other Galaxy devices like the Duos.

In the first quarter of 2013, Samsung sold 70M phones already. Most of which were Galaxy S III's.

Do you want to repeat what you said? And please louder this time so we can hear how it is better for you to be quiet.

You are welcome to keep trying, but please try harder.

Do you work for Samsung? You've posted those sales figures about ten times on this comment page.

The sad thing is that most of the 9 million are upgrades.. It's amazing how much they have been able to squeeze out of the same group of consumers.

billstelling said,
The sad thing is that most of the 9 million are upgrades.. It's amazing how much they have been able to squeeze out of the same group of consumers.

A fool and his money are soon parted.

You really think people would keep on buying new iPhones if they were no good? I can tell you from personal experience it is because of the great phones and great quality, and awesome customer service that I keep on buying iPhones.

KeR said,
You really think people would keep on buying new iPhones if they were no good? I can tell you from personal experience it is because of the great phones and great quality, and awesome customer service that I keep on buying iPhones.
This

KeR said,
You really think people would keep on buying new iPhones if they were no good? I can tell you from personal experience it is because of the great phones and great quality, and awesome customer service that I keep on buying iPhones.
We aren't saying they aren't any good. But APple isn't getting the selling numbers others are getting.

Fact...more than 50% of the Android users are new to the platform, while 50% or more of the iOS users are not. Android is actually growing as more phones are selling. Apple isn't selling more phones. In fact in the past 2 years sales of iPhone have dropped by more than 5% each year.

Foxconn lost money as their profits were starting to depend heavily on iPhone sales. Foxconnn had a 19% drop in revenue this year due to iPhone demand especially for the iPhone 5 being less than expected. APple expected to sell 60M+, but cut production early due to poor sales. That is fact.

TechieXP said,

Fact...more than 50% of the Android users are new to the platform, while 50% or more of the iOS users are not. Android is actually growing as more phones are selling. Apple isn't selling more phones. In fact in the past 2 years sales of iPhone have dropped by more than 5% each year.

Some of the facts that you've provided are false. iPhone sales have not dropped. Not even the slightest. I mean, the numbers are out there, so I don't really understand how you can be so wrong. Not only are their sales up if you go by their fiscal year, but they're also up if you go by a calendar year. The numbers are here if you want to look and come back to reality.

http://commons.wikimedia.org/w...ter.svg#Data_and_references

And about the cut production bit, that not a fact but was an analyst's prediction. The same analyst said that the 5s would go on sale in June.

It's September.

That is fact.

Mortis said,
LOL... they sold in a weekend more phones than Microsoft/Nokia sold since WP launch. :-)

8 million Lumias were sold last quarter. I think .5 million in America.

Spicoli said,
You're happy about getting ripped off? Strange.

Actually no. I wouldn't spend more than $300 for a phone... Above that I would consider it a waste.

Give respect where respect is due, Apple is doing a better job. The big @$$ screen play by Samsung and the others still did not beat Apple. When Apple does end up manufacturing the 4.5 or 5 inch screen, its gonna be even worst.

Mr. Dee said,
Give respect where respect is due, Apple is doing a better job. The big @$$ screen play by Samsung and the others still did not beat Apple. When Apple does end up manufacturing the 4.5 or 5 inch screen, its gonna be even worst.
Really? Because sales number speak volumes...don't thay?

Here let me throw some at you.
Samsung sold 10M+ of the original Galaxy S. They sold 20M of the Galaxy S II and they have sold to this point 50M of the Galaxy S III and the Galaxy S 4 has sold 35M in only 5 months, making it the fastest selling phone in history.

The Galaxy Note which presently has 2 released models and one announced model has already sold 38M total. The original Note sold just over 10M its first year and the Note II has sold 28M which means the Note II is expected to sell 30M+ and it will as the new Note buyer and those with the original one will sure upgrade.

So the math. in 2011, with the help of sells of the iPhone 3GS, 4 and 4S, Apple sold a whopping 72M phones. Yet neither model sold 50M as a single one. yet with 2 models of the Galaxy S, Samsung has sold 85M between the SIII and S4.

In 2010, it was reported that 25% of the phone sold were 4" or larger which means 25% of those sales didn't go to Apple.

Oh here is another fact. In 2011 it was announced that 100M people who usually buy feature phones switched to smartphones. 60% of them went to Android, 30% went to Apple and Microsoft got the rest. With the huge increase in Galaxy S sales, that means Samsung got the lions share of those sales.

Another fact? In Q3 of 2012, it was reported Samsung sold 90M total phones, 45.7M of them were made up of 4 phones...the GSII, the GSIII The Galaxy Note and Note II. That means more than 1/2 of the 90M phones were about 4" in size.

Also since Android has real competition with more than 12 OEM making Android phones, for Samsung to have almost 50% of the sales is incredible. With APple no one else as iOS so there is no bar to measure with. They still cant stand up to Samsung who actually knows how to market a device in an emerging market. For one you cant sell a $550 phone in Asia, in India or in a lot of other countries.

But you are welcome to try again.

TechieXP said,
Really? Because sales number speak volumes...don't thay?

Here let me throw some at you.
Samsung sold 10M+ of the original Galaxy S. They sold 20M of the Galaxy S II and they have sold to this point 50M of the Galaxy S III and the Galaxy S 4 has sold 35M in only 5 months, making it the fastest selling phone in history.

The Galaxy Note which presently has 2 released models and one announced model has already sold 38M total. The original Note sold just over 10M its first year and the Note II has sold 28M which means the Note II is expected to sell 30M+ and it will as the new Note buyer and those with the original one will sure upgrade.

So the math. in 2011, with the help of sells of the iPhone 3GS, 4 and 4S, Apple sold a whopping 72M phones. Yet neither model sold 50M as a single one. yet with 2 models of the Galaxy S, Samsung has sold 85M between the SIII and S4.

In 2010, it was reported that 25% of the phone sold were 4" or larger which means 25% of those sales didn't go to Apple.

Oh here is another fact. In 2011 it was announced that 100M people who usually buy feature phones switched to smartphones. 60% of them went to Android, 30% went to Apple and Microsoft got the rest. With the huge increase in Galaxy S sales, that means Samsung got the lions share of those sales.

Another fact? In Q3 of 2012, it was reported Samsung sold 90M total phones, 45.7M of them were made up of 4 phones...the GSII, the GSIII The Galaxy Note and Note II. That means more than 1/2 of the 90M phones were about 4" in size.

Also since Android has real competition with more than 12 OEM making Android phones, for Samsung to have almost 50% of the sales is incredible. With APple no one else as iOS so there is no bar to measure with. They still cant stand up to Samsung who actually knows how to market a device in an emerging market. For one you cant sell a $550 phone in Asia, in India or in a lot of other countries.

But you are welcome to try again.

Raaaaage

Wow - really really good. I would like to get a 5c - love the white and love polycarbonate phones. Still have another year on my contract though. Loving iOS 7 on our iPad mini though!

That's strange, the people I know working in telco in Australia say the launch was a busted flush. Lowest demand they'd ever seen apparently

Outside the US there isn't the antiquated carrier subsidy thing. Even in the US people are discovering they can save $500 a year by ditching that old model and going to a prepaid flat rate. You can even have your iPhone but you'll actually know what you're paying for it.

Exactly in how many countries have you actually lived & bought mobile phones? Do you know how the mobile phone industry works in Asia? How they are sold and subsidized by the carriers? How about in Australia or UK? This "carrier subsidy thing" you mentioned, only in the US? Really? I seriously doubt that based on my experience of buying phone on contract in 4 different countries.

Spicoli said,
Outside the US there isn't the antiquated carrier subsidy thing. Even in the US people are discovering they can save $500 a year by ditching that old model and going to a prepaid flat rate. You can even have your iPhone but you'll actually know what you're paying for it.

Wake me up when in the US people will be able to go to Best Buy and get unbranded phones. The carrier racket, with the blessing of people representatives in Capitol Hill, are robbing people with expensive contracts, lack of choices, exclusivity deals and the mother of all frauds: always pay for air time, regardless if you make or receive a call.

Just so you know, 9 million is about half the population of the greater Los Angeles area. It's a spec on the world population chart. :-). Also, I'm sure most people would not renew their contract this year for just the reason of a new iPhone launch. :-)

jesseinsf said,
Just so you know, 9 million is about half the population of the greater Los Angeles area. It's a spec on the world population chart. :-). Also, I'm sure most people would not renew their contract this year for just the reason of a new iPhone launch. :-)

You're well off...

Los Angeles Population (2012) City 3,857,799

bet you they are mostly 5s. no iphone user wants to be caught buying "the cheaper iphone". think of what that will do to their image.

Only the very young tie image to what phone they are using. As you age, you too will see that the phone you use does not matter to anyone else.

vcfan said,
bet you they are mostly 5s. no iphone user wants to be caught buying "the cheaper iphone". think of what that will do to their image.

I read about a ~3.5:1 ratio (5s:5c) on Forbes.

The 5c is an old phone in new casing though, so it should perhaps best be compared to the 4s at the time of the iPhone 5 launch. I wonder how much the 4s sales were boosted by the 5 launch, if at all? This should be the answer to how much of a true success the 5c is to Apple.

i can say that with IOS7, I have moved back to iphone 4 from the nexus 4. Its just a better phone. Sharper images, clearer text, better battery life, and now with Ios7, just as convenient as 4.3 JB

rippleman said,
i can say that with IOS7, I have moved back to iphone 4 from the nexus 4. Its just a better phone. Sharper images, clearer text, better battery life, and now with Ios7, just as convenient as 4.3 JB

LOL, you are actually one hell of a funny dude if you actually believe in your self on what you are saying.

Why would you say that? Have you tried iOS 7? I have both, and I can tell you with iOS 7 you get a better experience overall.

I don't fall into the blind fanboy fad like most here on neowin. I just always use what I feel is best. After using all platforms, Ios 7 to me feels easily the better OS. Android is great to, but has more downsides for my use.

Exynos said,

LOL, you are actually one hell of a funny dude if you actually believe in your self on what you are saying.

KeR said,
Why would you say that? Have you tried iOS 7? I have both, and I can tell you with iOS 7 you get a better experience overall.
You mean like watching Saturday Morning Cartoon = iOS7? My wife update our iPad to iOS7...she hates it. I hate it too. Its ugly no matter what color wallpaper I use.

TechieXP said,
My wife update our iPad to iOS7...she hates it. I hate it too.

I really think it's time for you to sell off your Apple products...

TechieXP said,
My wife update our iPad to iOS7...she hates it. I hate it too. Its ugly no matter what color wallpaper I use.

That's the problem.. people saying it's too childish, colorful, etc... try running a simple plain background (darker for me). iOS 7 is good, don't want to go back to iOS 6

TechieXP said,
You mean like watching Saturday Morning Cartoon = iOS7? My wife update our iPad to iOS7...she hates it. I hate it too. Its ugly no matter what color wallpaper I use.

So sell those products and get something else instead of constantly complaining about it.

They do exist. You can't get them the Apple store. You have to go to a carrier's store or go online to get them. Once their stock runs out then that's it no more. VZW is still selling the 5 in white 16gb online.

jesseinsf said,
Would be nice to know what they sold. :-)

I am more interested in iPhone upgrades vs net-new owners. I for one will be adding to that number when I upgrade my wife's 4S. It is an impressive number, but a little more detail of it would be nice. Region, model, purchase type.

Also the proportion of each phone sold... They can't really claim 9 million was an actual record because that was two different products. It's the argument Apple lovers used to use against Samsung, before the Galaxy S III.

jesseinsf said,
Would be nice to know what they sold. :-)

One could ask the same of Samsung which hardly ever releases any sales figures. They only tell about shipping numbers. The sales numbers only come from estimates made by analysts. Why should one expect Apple to tell the exact figures when it's not asked the same for its main rival?

TechieXP said,

They sold 7M of the 5S and 2M of the 5C. Its already been reported here...

"It was another banner opening weekend for Apple's new iPhone. The company says 9 million iPhone 5s and 5c handsets were sold. One mobile analytics firm pegs the breakdown around 7 million of the 5s with 2 million of the 5c sold"

http://gigaom.com/2013/09/23/a...ion-sales-in-first-weekend/

You missed the word "analyst predicts"....

You just figured it now? On this site, it's a taboo to say anything that may sound like MS' competitors are doing ok. Or be ready to face the wrath of the MS/Nokia-bots.

Chicane-UK said,

People just don't seem to understand that.

We do. You guys just cant handle being teased, yet you get on Android articles especially Samsung and ring out the typical "plastic" comments.

Yet Samsung sales numbers are far higher. The Galaxy S sales have double year over year for the past 3 models. 10M for the 1st, 20M for the 2nd and 50M for the 3rd. Count...5M of a single model which even Apple hasn't done yet.

Samsung has much higher demand, but somehow they are able to handle demand better as shortages are rare.

I mean the Galaxy S4 has sold 35M in 5 months and there is still 7 months before the next model. How much money do you want to bet right now that the iPhone 5S wont outsell the Galaxy S 4?

In fact I am so sure that I make you an open bet right here. My bet is simple. In 12 months lets compare the sales of the iPhone 5S to the Galaxy S 4. If the iPhone 5S wins in total sales I will buy you a iPhone 5S with my own money. If the Galaxy S 4 wins, then you buy me one with your money. Put your money where you mouth is. Oh...and the GS4 is already 35M sales ahead.

TechieXP said,
We do. You guys just cant handle being teased, yet you get on Android articles especially Samsung and ring out the typical "plastic" comments.

Yet Samsung sales numbers are far higher. The Galaxy S sales have double year over year for the past 3 models. 10M for the 1st, 20M for the 2nd and 50M for the 3rd. Count...5M of a single model which even Apple hasn't done yet.

Samsung has much higher demand, but somehow they are able to handle demand better as shortages are rare.

I mean the Galaxy S4 has sold 35M in 5 months and there is still 7 months before the next model. How much money do you want to bet right now that the iPhone 5S wont outsell the Galaxy S 4?

In fact I am so sure that I make you an open bet right here. My bet is simple. In 12 months lets compare the sales of the iPhone 5S to the Galaxy S 4. If the iPhone 5S wins in total sales I will buy you a iPhone 5S with my own money. If the Galaxy S 4 wins, then you buy me one with your money. Put your money where you mouth is. Oh...and the GS4 is already 35M sales ahead.

I'll take that bet.

Replying just for updates, I want to see how this ends.

(though I'm curious where the numbers for the S4 come into play, as I haven't seen figures anywhere close to 35M or beyond...)

I know he won't take this bet seriously. He's just trying to make himself look all grown up. In reality we all know the 5S will wipe the floor with the S4.

It's kind of surprising, given the controversial move.
It took Samsung the initial month to ship this many Samsung Galaxy S4's.

Maybe the supplies weren't very constrained after all, haha.

Northgrove said,
It's kind of surprising, given the controversial move.
It took Samsung the initial month to ship this many Samsung Galaxy S4's.

Maybe the supplies weren't very constrained after all, haha.


yes that's true but then again Samsung makes many phones add them up and they sell more in 3 days than 9 million. The difference here is that apple releases just one phone every year and this year they had 2 plus most upgrades were available. IPhone 6 will most likely not hit numbers this high worldwide maybe the states with this new upgrade your phone every 6 months lol...

duk3togo said,

yes that's true but then again Samsung makes many phones add them up and they sell more in 3 days than 9 million. The difference here is that apple releases just one phone every year and this year they had 2 plus most upgrades were available. IPhone 6 will most likely not hit numbers this high worldwide maybe the states with this new upgrade your phone every 6 months lol...

I think just the opposite. apple will release the next phone with a 5" screen or so, so it'll sell like crazy. people are tired of the tiny little screens on iphones, but won't admit it until one with a bigger screen is released. it's brilliant of apple to do this. sell 9+ million phones and 6 months later sell that plus more because no one wants the iphone with the tiny screen when they can upgrade to the bigger screen.

Northgrove said,
It's kind of surprising, given the controversial move.
It took Samsung the initial month to ship this many Samsung Galaxy S4's.

Maybe the supplies weren't very constrained after all, haha.

The whole "limited supplies" thing was a double play by Apple. Firstly it is done to try and push people who are sitting on the fence about getting one by making it seem difficult to get, etc. Classic marketing. The second was that they did do a limited supply of the Gold iPhone 5s compared to the other two colours. This again was great marketing as it got people talking *even more* about the "limited supply".

While a lot of people (here especially) are not big Apple fans they still have a huge number of die hard customers who will buy in the first day or two.

Northgrove said,
It's kind of surprising, given the controversial move.
It took Samsung the initial month to ship this many Samsung Galaxy S4's.

Maybe the supplies weren't very constrained after all, haha.

These were mostly pre-order sales. Many wont be getting their phones until next month. A long time to wait for a new phone after you've bought it.

TechieXP said,
These were mostly pre-order sales. Many wont be getting their phones until next month. A long time to wait for a new phone after you've bought it.

Key word being "sales"...

InTheSwiss said,
The whole "limited supplies" thing was a double play by Apple..

Implying everyone who bought it actually has one in hand. If only that were the case...

Buttus said,

I think just the opposite. apple will release the next phone with a 5" screen or so, so it'll sell like crazy. people are tired of the tiny little screens on iphones, but won't admit it until one with a bigger screen is released. it's brilliant of apple to do this. sell 9+ million phones and 6 months later sell that plus more because no one wants the iphone with the tiny screen when they can upgrade to the bigger screen.


It took Apple 5 years to give there phones half an inch bigger. Why would they make a larger phone after 1 year of suckers buying the same product. IMO they will release one in about 2 years. Notice they no longer make mention of the retina display because its no longer the best screen. Until they can perfect it on a larger screen this what you'll get 4". In 6 month you'll the 6 with the 5cs.

Nobody seriously believe that consumers are falling out of love with Apple products. Analysts just like to say something - anything - and Samsung users want to believe that Apple consumers are joining them in droves because it makes them feel better.

We go through this each and every year and it always ends the same - Apple products selling like hot-cakes, analysts taking guesses in the hope that one of them will be correct and they can declare they saw it coming, Samsung phone users craving cheap and tacky plastic phones that are as light as their wallets.

Yea, everything seriously thinks that because it always happens. Trendy never stays trendy. It's all a question to how long you can run with it. You can't rip people off if it's not trendy and Apple's business model is based on over-charging for products.

trendy is not going to stay trendy forever. 30 years ago anything Sony was trendy and expensive - headphones, Hi-Fis, LPs etc... Sony is still there today, but it's not the Sony of 30 years ago.

CSharp. said,

*shrug* maybe people don't feel ripped off? Why do you care? I don't really get it.

They might not because they don't realize how much money they're paying being hidden in the service plan. It's over $1,000 for a $400 hardware credit. I care because money sucking scams like this damage the overall economy. You could put a new deck on the house for what they overcharge you over a two year contract. People should know exactly what they're paying for as line items on the bill.

Spicoli said,

They might not because they don't realize how much money they're paying being hidden in the service plan. It's over $1,000 for a $400 hardware credit. I care because motqney sucking scams like this damage the overall economy. You could put a new deck on the house for what they overcharge you over a two year contract. People should know exactly what they're paying for as line items on the bill.

What about people that don't get iPhones yet pay the same monthly fees? Your analogy is so off. Typical excuses

C#Rocks said,
trendy is not going to stay trendy forever. 30 years ago anything Sony was trendy and expensive - headphones, Hi-Fis, LPs etc... Sony is still there today, but it's not the Sony of 30 years ago.

It is up to the management to keep up the products they sell. Aston Martin was the dream car thirty years ago... and still is it.

Spicoli said,

They might not because they don't realize how much money they're paying being hidden in the service plan. It's over $1,000 for a $400 hardware credit. I care because money sucking scams like this damage the overall economy. You could put a new deck on the house for what they overcharge you over a two year contract. People should know exactly what they're paying for as line items on the bill.

Spicoli - The ones who buy the Nokia or Samsung cheapies are the ones who have no clue how much they are paying as they only go the the lowest price. Not the best smartphone with the best tech like iPhone has.

TheDogsBed said,
Nobody seriously believe that consumers are falling out of love with Apple products. Analysts just like to say something - anything - and Samsung users want to believe that Apple consumers are joining them in droves because it makes them feel better.

We go through this each and every year and it always ends the same - Apple products selling like hot-cakes, analysts taking guesses in the hope that one of them will be correct and they can declare they saw it coming, Samsung phone users craving cheap and tacky plastic phones that are as light as their wallets.


Samsung tacky plastic phones? I bet they sell more plastic phones than Apple will. Because Samsung is equal to plastic done right with a modular design that is easy to fix and they don't come in stupid girly colors.

Look at the sales numbers BRO

The Galaxy S III is just 13 months old, it has sold over 50M+ as a single model. None of Apple single models have hit that many in 6 years.

The Galaxy S IV has sold 35M in less than 6 months, which means at that pace, it will sell well above 60M.

In fact, the Galaxy S sales double year over year while iPhone sales did not. The Galaxy S sold 10M+, the GSII sold 20M+, the GS3 sold 50M+ that means at this pace the GS4 will sell roughly 70M+ as it has 35M in just 5 months leave 7 months to go for a full year. The Galaxy Note with 2 models have sold 38M which means they will sell well over 60M once the Note 3 is avail. The Original Note sold 10M, the Note II sold 28M buy itself. The Note II which is much bigger than an iPhone and you all claim are to big are actually bought by just as many women as men which is why they made a pink one for them.

Oh and Samsung actually knows that a $550 phone isn't going to sell well outside the USA. That is why the Galaxy S 4 Mini is much cheaper than its fancier sibling.

TechieXP said,

Samsung tacky plastic phones? I bet they sell more plastic phones than Apple will. Because Samsung is equal to plastic done right with a modular design that is easy to fix and they don't come in stupid girly colors.

Look at the sales numbers BRO

The Galaxy S III is just 13 months old, it has sold over 50M+ as a single model. None of Apple single models have hit that many in 6 years.

The Galaxy S IV has sold 35M in less than 6 months, which means at that pace, it will sell well above 60M.

In fact, the Galaxy S sales double year over year while iPhone sales did not. The Galaxy S sold 10M+, the GSII sold 20M+, the GS3 sold 50M+ that means at this pace the GS4 will sell roughly 70M+ as it has 35M in just 5 months leave 7 months to go for a full year. The Galaxy Note with 2 models have sold 38M which means they will sell well over 60M once the Note 3 is avail. The Original Note sold 10M, the Note II sold 28M buy itself. The Note II which is much bigger than an iPhone and you all claim are to big are actually bought by just as many women as men which is why they made a pink one for them.

Oh and Samsung actually knows that a $550 phone isn't going to sell well outside the USA. That is why the Galaxy S 4 Mini is much cheaper than its fancier sibling.

No they haven't. Your numbers are off. AGAIN you're posting lies. Single iphone models have outsold galaxy models. Iphone 5 is also the fastest selling smart phone.

TechieXP said,

Samsung tacky plastic phones? I bet they sell more plastic phones than Apple will. Because Samsung is equal to plastic done right with a modular design that is easy to fix and they don't come in stupid girly colors.

Look at the sales numbers BRO

The Galaxy S III is just 13 months old, it has sold over 50M+ as a single model. None of Apple single models have hit that many in 6 years.

The Galaxy S IV has sold 35M in less than 6 months, which means at that pace, it will sell well above 60M.

In fact, the Galaxy S sales double year over year while iPhone sales did not. The Galaxy S sold 10M+, the GSII sold 20M+, the GS3 sold 50M+ that means at this pace the GS4 will sell roughly 70M+ as it has 35M in just 5 months leave 7 months to go for a full year. The Galaxy Note with 2 models have sold 38M which means they will sell well over 60M once the Note 3 is avail. The Original Note sold 10M, the Note II sold 28M buy itself. The Note II which is much bigger than an iPhone and you all claim are to big are actually bought by just as many women as men which is why they made a pink one for them.

Oh and Samsung actually knows that a $550 phone isn't going to sell well outside the USA. That is why the Galaxy S 4 Mini is much cheaper than its fancier sibling.

http://www.businessinsider.com...ompare-to-the-iphone-2013-7

What does this have to do with the last post? Also that chart is BS and its false. The date on the page says July 2013. As of June 2013, Samsung sold 50M+ Galaxy S III. The GS4 has sold 35M+ since it debut. The Galaxy Note has sold 38M+ in 2 years. Apple has NOT sold 50M+ of just the iPhone 5. What they are counting is ALL selling models in one.

Also another thing to show how false. In Q1 2013, it was announced, Samsung had already shipped 70M phones. In Q3 of 2013, Samsung had shipped/sold 90M phones where 45.7M were ALL Galaxy devices.

http://www.phonearena.com/news...on-units-in-Q1-2013_id41272

http://www.businessinsider.com...hones-as-apple-in-q3-2012-7

In 2011 Apple sold a TOTAL of 72M phones which were made up of 3 selling models. Of course that is a lot of phones. But when put into place that is 3 models. If you total up just the sales of the GS3 and the GS4 with one phone per year, the 2 phones have sold over 80M by themselves which beats Apple 2011 3 model total.

Apple is not selling more phones than Samsung and haven't since the GS3 was release. In fact, in Q4 which includes XMas for everyone else and is Apple 2nd quarter, the iPhone 5 finally past sales of the other devices - http://news.cnet.com/8301-1357...-as-top-seller-says-report/

Which means for 3 solid quarters the GS3 ruled the world.

What exactly were you trying to show me?

Let's be fair. The GS3 was a 2012 phone and the GS4 (Mar 2013) is a 2013 phone. So once the GS4 and the iPhone 5 have been on sale for a year, lets see who wins. Based on the last fact, the iPhone only took the top bec people slowed buying the GS3 as the GS4 announcement was right around the corner.

Also the Galaxy S III had a 9M pre-order count, which was 2 years before Apple finally did it. LOL

What were you trying to show me? Oh how Apple sales are really funny? How they only sell roughly 35-40 phones in one model?

TechieXP said,
What does this have to do with the last post? Also that chart is BS and its false. The date on the page says July 2013. As of June 2013, Samsung sold 50M+ Galaxy S III. The GS4 has sold 35M+ since it debut. The Galaxy Note has sold 38M+ in 2 years. Apple has NOT sold 50M+ of just the iPhone 5. What they are counting is ALL selling models in one.

Also another thing to show how false. In Q1 2013, it was announced, Samsung had already shipped 70M phones. In Q3 of 2013, Samsung had shipped/sold 90M phones where 45.7M were ALL Galaxy devices.

http://www.phonearena.com/news...on-units-in-Q1-2013_id41272

http://www.businessinsider.com...hones-as-apple-in-q3-2012-7

In 2011 Apple sold a TOTAL of 72M phones which were made up of 3 selling models. Of course that is a lot of phones. But when put into place that is 3 models. If you total up just the sales of the GS3 and the GS4 with one phone per year, the 2 phones have sold over 80M by themselves which beats Apple 2011 3 model total.

Apple is not selling more phones than Samsung and haven't since the GS3 was release. In fact, in Q4 which includes XMas for everyone else and is Apple 2nd quarter, the iPhone 5 finally past sales of the other devices - http://news.cnet.com/8301-1357...-as-top-seller-says-report/

Which means for 3 solid quarters the GS3 ruled the world.

What exactly were you trying to show me?

Let's be fair. The GS3 was a 2012 phone and the GS4 (Mar 2013) is a 2013 phone. So once the GS4 and the iPhone 5 have been on sale for a year, lets see who wins. Based on the last fact, the iPhone only took the top bec people slowed buying the GS3 as the GS4 announcement was right around the corner.

Also the Galaxy S III had a 9M pre-order count, which was 2 years before Apple finally did it. LOL

What were you trying to show me? Oh how Apple sales are really funny? How they only sell roughly 35-40 phones in one model?

Why are you resurrecting week old posts? And the numbers and pages you quoted don't prove anything. Here's a quote from the one you posted:

"The data isn't exactly comparing apples to apples here, since Samsung's numbers are shipments while Apple's numbers are sell through"

You should learn to read before posting something.

Every time you write something you make yourself look ridiculous. Sending me a private message with a youtube video of a kid crying over an iPhone 5C makes you look really foolish. Keep my inbox out of the discussions we are having here.

Spicoli said,
And most of those hidden in service plans. People paying $1,200 in service fees and upfront cost for a $600 piece of hardware. Sad.

You've said this in the past 5 comments. We know how it works...