Apple still doesn't understand how DST works, issues reported

Fool me once, shame on you, fail to fix a bug after several consecutive DST issues, shame on your developers. Users on Twitter are reporting that DST issues have cropped up once again on the iPhone which has had a lot of trouble in the past dealing with the bi-annual time change.

There have been reports of the device not updating, updating in areas that do not observe DST and some devices updated for the time change but then reverted back to DST. The issues is almost laughable at this point as the bug crops up every time there is a time change on the iOS platform. According to one tweet, it looks like resetting your device may amend the issue, but we can not confirm if that does remedy the flaw.

Motorola posted up yesterday too that they might have battery life issues with the time change that will affect devices running Android 2.3, although a simple restart should fix the issue.

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Yes my IPhone 4 rolled back twice @ 1 A.M. and I am in the Apple IOS Developer Program and I am running Apple IOS 5.0.1 Beta 2 on it And I still had the DST Bug Problem! Not a good sign regarding the future of Apple IOS 5.0.1!

My iphone updated at the wrong time!!!!!

at 11am, it went back to 10am

it was supposed to update at 2am!


made me confused as hell....

other networks iphone in canada, updated at 1pm.


WTF apple???

I had no issues at all when the clocks changed in the UK last weekend, my alarm went off when it was supposed to.

That said, if I did have to get up for anything other than breakfast I would have had a back up plan ^-^

Here's a tip for the world: "GET RID OF THE ****ING DAYLIGHT SAVINGS TIME!!!!!!" It was created to help the retail business among others but for the rest of us IT ****ES US OFF! In over 100 years they could not get nations to synchronize so we have places in the world that don't change at the same time as others so it creates chaos anyway. Since we are doing away with incandescent bulbs, you tell me, what ****ing purpose does this antiquated crap still serve except to annoy!

virtorio said,
I wonder if Apple has a patent on improper handling of DST.

They sued themselves for it.

vladmphoto said,

Europe still uses it, I think you mean Asia.


Nope, I do mean Europe We've stopped using DST in the night of Sunday the 30st of October.

So I'm wondering why none of this happened in the EU.

Enron said,
Considering Apple invented time, they should have this working by now.

Your remarks kinda get lost when you troll just about every Apple-related news thread you find.

My Android didnt do it either. I am in Arizona and said I was on Pacific time. Was an hour behind. I have my phone rooted so I suspect its an issue with the ROM I am using. No biggy as if I really need to get up, I set a desk alarm clock as well.

if ((date("now", "d M") == "6 Nov") && (location() == "CA, USA") && (time("now", "hA") == "1 AM") && (isSet(DTS[date("now", "Y)])==null){
DTS[date("now", "Y)] = 1;
time("now", "h")--;
}

Not hard.

Brian Miller said,
if ((date("now", "d M") == "6 Nov") && (location() == "CA, USA") && (time("now", "hA") == "1 AM") && (isSet(DTS[date("now", "Y)])==null){
DTS[date("now", "Y)] = 1;
time("now", "h")--;
}

Not hard.


Well, it still needs to work like magic.

So let's see again...the latest discussions on apple iphone forums: https://discussions.apple.com/...g_iphone?view=discussions#/

https://discussions.apple.com/...using_ipad?view=discussions

Doesn't have anything related to DST.....please show if I am wrong. And according to the twitter hash I see around 50....yep 50 people complaining. Wow....50 whole people complaining on a Sunday. Get a life and figure out something else to complain about.

This is a non-issue right now

Edited by #Michael, Nov 6 2011, 6:50pm :

Yeah, my jack ass co-worker missed our maintenance window yesterday thanks to his iphone alarm clock not working. He overslept during the maintenance window and I had to do the whole outage myself. I told him not to set that since there has been problems in the past with iphone and DST. I can't believe dumb phones know DST, and Apple (the best smartphone in the whole world - /s) can't figure out a simple thing like DST.

tsupersonic said,
Yeah, my jack ass co-worker missed our maintenance window yesterday thanks to his iphone alarm clock not working. He overslept during the maintenance window and I had to do the whole outage myself. I told him not to set that since there has been problems in the past with iphone and DST. I can't believe dumb phones know DST, and Apple (the best smartphone in the whole world - /s) can't figure out a simple thing like DST.

How can you blame something that happened YESTERDAY on a time change that happened TODAY?

roadwarrior said,

How can you blame something that happened YESTERDAY on a time change that happened TODAY?
I meant today, lack of sleep...Yeah, his iphone alarm failed, just like previous DST iphone issues.

So let's see....Motorola puts out a a statement that all of their droids will have a problem with the switch and will require a battery pull....but no of the *******s on this site give two ****s about that.

But god forbid anyone even mention something wrong with Apple and you get every immature ******* on this site decides to post.

I watch both my ipad and my iphone switch last night and they worked fine. Anyone care to find out what devices this is happening to and what os this is effecting?

Think before you speak......talk about unprofessional journalism.

All my devices handled the update fine/automatically, including my aging Win95 box, ROFL at apple, and people still support their ****ty products.

simple solution, Apple gets the whole world to drop this stupid concept of DST... I sware no one even knows anymore why it exists.... get reasons from "its because of WW2" to "Its to save energy" to everything inbetween with farmers...

All those posted tweets are probably cell providers that didn't push the updated time out to the towers correctly.

+1. No problems here. The problem could be from your service provider if your phone is setup to auto update. AT&T have had problems in my area at various points in the year (not just at the time change).

Shadrack said,
+1. No problems here. The problem could be from your service provider if your phone is setup to auto update. AT&T have had problems in my area at various points in the year (not just at the time change).

Indeed, I'm starting to wonder how big a part the carriers play in this, I've never had a problem on any of my iDevices here in Sweden.

Last week the clocks changed in the uk. As I work weekends, in always cautious when this happens as I'm up at 4:50 - so expected problems. iPhone was bang on with the change and the alarm.

I think my nexus one woke up me in dst time. i snoozed off for an hour and when i finally woke up it was 10 minutes after the time i set my alarm.

einsteinbqat said,
I don't have any issue with DST with any of my Apple iDevices (iMac, iPod, iPad, iPhone, Apple TV). I'm in Canada.

I bet 95% of iOS users had no problems. It's always the 5% who cry the loudest.

KingCrimson said,

I bet 95% of iOS users had no problems. It's always the 5% who cry the loudest.

I'm just wondering is the 5% is the Jailbreakers.

Just wondering does the Mac have the same problem as well? Its hard to believe that apple still havent fixed this since this has been going on for a long time.

had no problems with my iPhone 4 in Europe ... it changed the hour during the night and the alarm started when it should've started ...

For some reason my Time Zone on my iPhone 4 was incorrect, a reboot fixed it. my WiFi iPad 2 was correct though.

Last weeks clocks changes in the UK, someone at work said their iphone updated ok but the alarm they set for 5am went off at 4am instead!

i think this time change crap should be eliminated anyways. it serves no real purpose. there are already several states in the US that do not observe it anymore.

it not that they "choose" not to, its just some places are zones that are inbetween the shift so no benefit would come from it.

smooth3006 said,
i think this time change crap should be eliminated anyways. it serves no real purpose. there are already several states in the US that do not observe it anymore.

Maybe Apple is trying to get DST done away with. If so, it's the first thing they've ever done I support! :-)

And my Android tablet & phone updated fine, BTW!

DConnell said,
Maybe Apple is trying to get DST done away with. If so, it's the first thing they've ever done I support! :-)

And my Android tablet & phone updated fine, BTW!

If this is correct, the Apple is just plain lazy.

My iphone 3g was an hour behind this morning. I think the time zone got changed but it fixed when I unlocked. Sure did confuse me while I was still in bed.

My Galaxy s2 got stuck on 1:03 last weekend when it changed in the UK, and didnt change from that until I manually reset it.

cmb211087 said,
My Galaxy s2 got stuck on 1:03 last weekend when it changed in the UK, and didnt change from that until I manually reset it.

Shhhh, this is an Apple bashing thread. Run while you still can!

With the constant changes (and international variations) on the date for the time changes, I'm not surprised that companies are constantly scrambling to keep it straight.

roadwarrior said,
With the constant changes (and international variations) on the date for the time changes, I'm not surprised that APPLE is the only company constantly scrambling to keep it straight.
There, I corrected your statement.

theyarecomingforyou said,
There, I corrected your statement.

You should have read the article before you did that.

Motorola posted up yesterday too that they might have battery life issues with the time change that will affect devices running Android 2.3, although a simple restart should fix the issue.

Also, as others have stated, not all iOS devices were affected. Im sorry to get in the way of your crusade.

theyarecomingforyou said,
There, I corrected your statement.

Well, for some reason my Android phone (a G2 running CM7.1) was telling me yesterday that the time change was scheduled for 7PM on Saturday night.

smooth3006 said,
my android dinc2 changed the time right on the dot last night!

I've never had any issues with the GMT time changes on my iPhone. Is this a US issue only?

DomZ said,

I've never had any issues with the GMT time changes on my iPhone. Is this a US issue only?

I don't have any issue with DST with any of my Apple iDevices (iMac, iPod, iPad, iPhone, Apple TV). I'm in Canada.

Owatonna said,
Wow, How hard of bug can this be? Feature phones haven't ever had a problem.

Fixing a bug with any piece of software has never been as simple as looking at the keyboard and clicking a "Fix Bug" button.

Ninja Grinch said,

Fixing a bug with any piece of software has never been as simple as looking at the keyboard and clicking a "Fix Bug" button.

True, but bugs with DST have been fixed numerous times over the years. Can't they get it right atleast once?

Owatonna said,
Wow, How hard of bug can this be? Feature phones haven't ever had a problem.

Feature phones simply get their time from the cellular network and are done with it. Most of them have no concept of time zones, etc.

roadwarrior said,

Feature phones simply get their time from the cellular network and are done with it. Most of them have no concept of time zones, etc.
And yet Apple appears to be the only one affected by this. My Android phone had no issue with the transition.

The problem is not that the bug exists but that Apple has tried to fix it on numerous occasions and failed miserably. It's obviously a widespread problem, as I've seen numerous status updates about it on Facebook. When you're talking about millions of users, many with important schedules to maintain, it becomes a serious issue.

theyarecomingforyou said,
And yet Apple appears to be the only one affected by this. My Android phone had no issue with the transition.

The problem is not that the bug exists but that Apple has tried to fix it on numerous occasions and failed miserably. It's obviously a widespread problem, as I've seen numerous status updates about it on Facebook. When you're talking about millions of users, many with important schedules to maintain, it becomes a serious issue.

Neither did my Windows Phone, although it has a time zone set up it still gets it's time from the mobile network.

theyarecomingforyou said,
And yet Apple appears to be the only one affected by this..

Indeed it does, until you read the last two line of the article.

Examinus said,
Indeed it does, until you read the last two line of the article.
Totally different issue at hand here. On Apple's hand, you have devices which can't manage to set the clock correctly. On Motorola's hand, the clock is set right, but battery usage is higher than normal until reboot.

Ninja Grinch said,

Fixing a bug with any piece of software has never been as simple as looking at the keyboard and clicking a "Fix Bug" button.

They have $60 billion. I'm sure they can figure out a way to get it fixed.