Apple wants Europe to ban all Samsung smartphones and tablets

Apple's legal fight with Samsung has entered yet another round today. As reported by News.com, Apple has now filed a new injunction that would ban the sale of all of Samsung's smartphones and tablets, including the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 and 7, throughout the countries of the European Union. The smartphones included in Apple's injunction include the Galaxy Ace, the Galaxy S, and the Galaxy S II. All of these devices uses Google's Android operating system.

Apple filed the new injunction at a district court in The Hague. If the court grants the injunction, Apple wants Samsung to send a letter to retailers and distributors to remove its smartphones and tablets from stores within 14 days. For its part, Samsung has issued a statement saying, "Samsung will continue to actively defend and protect our intellectual property and to ensure our continued innovation and growth in the mobile communication business."

Apple has claimed that Samsung's smartphone and tablet designs and their user interfaces violate Apple's patents for devices like the iPhone and iPad. Earlier in August, a court in Germany banned the sale of the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 through all of Europe except the Netherlands. Earlier this week, that ban was overturned by another court decision saying that the German court ruling should apply only to Germany and not to the rest of Europe. The Galaxy Tab 10.1 is still banned for sale in Australia thanks to a similar injunction filed by Apple earlier this summer and agreed to by a court in that country.

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Can you blame Apple for trying to stop a superior product from usurping their market share? The sad part is they know a US court would never heard their B.S. so they go over seas and start trouble. Just like Apple - gay and lame.

no need for all this apple. people who want to buy your products will continue to do so, and those who dont want to spend money on over prices locked down hardware will go else where.
its called free enterprise and apple need to eat some humble pie.

It's time for Samsung to partner with other manufacturers like Nokia and HTC and they all attack Apple in a combined effort.

As a result of recent lawsuits, I am far less likely to get an Apple product in the future.
Talk about backfire, because they will not achieve anything with a lawsuit, and at the same time, they are losing potential customers.

apples butt hurt cause samsung and other are kicking in apples backdoor they are running scared and will do anything to stop the competition

This is starting to sound like Apple thinks having a monopoly is ok, Microsoft thought that and got screwed, i hope the same happens to Apple they deserve it.

Business is disgusting. There is no drive from these corporations to make the world and our lives better through innovation, no, the drive is to make as much money and market share as possible.

Still, I know a lot of Apple fans who'll still be blind to this.

SPARTdAN said,
Business is disgusting.

Thats like saying TV is evil. Its not Business that is evil, business is a GOOD thing. It provides people with jobs and the ability to make a better world. Its when people start behaving in a greedy manner, that business looks evil.

I think your anger is directed in the wrong place.

Innovative products? When has Samsung ever innovated? :\ They ripped off Apple's products to start with and are relying on Googles hard work on Android to make their money. :\

Pc_Madness said,
Innovative products? When has Samsung ever innovated? :\ They ripped off Apple's products to start with and are relying on Googles hard work on Android to make their money. :\

Sure...and Apple's never ripped off any other company *cough:Xerox*. When Apple steals an idea it's called revolutionary. When anyone else does it to Apple, it's called theft. Pot - meet kettle.

Sranshaft said,

Sure...and Apple's never ripped off any other company *cough:Xerox*. When Apple steals an idea it's called revolutionary. When anyone else does it to Apple, it's called theft. Pot - meet kettle.

Err, did Xerox invent the iPhone? :\ Not quite sure what Xerox has to do with this. :\

Pc_Madness said,
Innovative products? When has Samsung ever innovated? :\ They ripped off Apple's products to start with and are relying on Googles hard work on Android to make their money. :\
Thanks for the chuckle. You should do stand up.

The only thing which resembles an iPhone is the UI icons at the bottom. But Samsung can address that with an updates OS. Other than that I think Apple wants to control the pace of technological innovations so they can milk all their products to their limits

Zain Adeel said,
The only thing which resembles an iPhone is the UI icons at the bottom. But Samsung can address that with an updates OS. Other than that I think Apple wants to control the pace of technological innovations so they can milk all their products to their limits

There's no "dock" on 3.x tablets so even thats a null point. http://img31.imageshack.us/img...applesubmitsstrangegala.jpg clearly shows they are nothing alike what so ever.

Oh Boy! I think world war 3 is going to be started by these huge tech companies(Microsoft,Apple,Google...). They already have billions of dollars in cash and are richer than many countries...God Help Us!

burhan9k said,
Oh Boy! I think world war 3 is going to be started by these huge tech companies(Microsoft,Apple,Google...). They already have billions of dollars in cash and are richer than many countries...God Help Us!

Wasn't this already prophetised in the Mutant Chronicles?

Good. Samsung should not be able to sell it's products if they are violating patents since it's basically stealing. Spend more time making products that dont look like iPhones or iPads and maybe you wouldnt have gotten sued.

Adamb10 said,
Good. Samsung should not be able to sell it's products if they are violating patents since it's basically stealing. Spend more time making products that dont look like iPhones or iPads and maybe you wouldnt have gotten sued.
So by this logic, everyone but Palm should stop making smartphones, since Palm has the patent to smartphone. Awesome logic, fanboy.

tsupersonic said,
So by this logic, everyone but Palm should stop making smartphones, since Palm has the patent to smartphone. Awesome logic, fanboy.

Except Palm licensed out it's patents so that doesnt work. Apple hasnt licensed the patents that Samsung is violating.

tsupersonic said,
So by this logic, everyone but Palm should stop making smartphones, since Palm has the patent to smartphone. Awesome logic, fanboy.

I still have palm IIIc (which i dont use he he)

Liana said,
Right now I'm very glad that I've never purchased an Apple product.

Right now I'd say Apples Lawyers are a**holes, doesn't change how great my iPhone is thought and I hardly regret my purchase.
My 7 inch Galaxy Tab is still a pretty darn good device even though Google has been giant crybabies lately...

ManMountain said,
I wish I could say the same. Thankfully my Apple purchases are but a distant memory now

I'm working on making mine a distant memory, but I bought in heavily so I have to replace piece by piece.

I'm not trolling or starting a flame war, but I genuinely want to ask Android users, do you really think Google have not copied single UI element of the iPhone? Because before iPhone come out in 2007, no eon have done the "slide to unlock", "pinch gesture" and "bouncing at the end of scrolling", etc.. I'm not here to defend the patent practice and the question have nothing to do with it.

sopharine said,
I'm not trolling or starting a flame war, but I genuinely want to ask Android users, do you really think Google have not copied single UI element of the iPhone? Because before iPhone come out in 2007, no eon have done the "slide to unlock", "pinch gesture" and "bouncing at the end of scrolling", etc.. I'm not here to defend the patent practice and the question have nothing to do with it.

Almost everyone I know with an Android device uses the pattern lock, not the slide to unlock. The "pinch" gesture I first saw was in 2006 via Jeff Han's multitouch demonstration. The "bouncing at the end of scrolling" has existed since 1997, shown via Hacker ASCII "art". Food for thought.

ManMountain said,

Almost everyone I know with an Android device uses the pattern lock, not the slide to unlock. The "pinch" gesture I first saw was in 2006 via Jeff Han's multitouch demonstration. The "bouncing at the end of scrolling" has existed since 1997, shown via Hacker ASCII "art". Food for thought.


And no one I know use a passcode or any lock on their Android phone...

Let's put it like this, before the iPhone Android look like something supposed to compete with the blackberry...
I like both Android and iOS, but there is no annoying Android would have been very very different without the release of the iPhone and iOS...

Leonick said,

And no one I know use a passcode or any lock on their Android phone...

Let's put it like this, before the iPhone Android look like something supposed to compete with the blackberry...
I like both Android and iOS, but there is no annoying Android would have been very very different without the release of the iPhone and iOS...

Smartphones are alike because they share the same parent : PDA.

Thing is, there are an extremely limited number of ways you can do certain things, especially on a touch device with a small screen. You can only lay it out certain ways (and the icon grid view predates iPhone by many years), there are only certain gestures you can use to do certain tasks, and no one should be allowed to have propriety control over those rather generic things.

Specific implementations, sure, but not the generic concept.

As for "copying". Everyone copies everyone. Job's himself has admitted that Apple copy others. It's just how things happen. They really need to drop the litigious stance they've been taking lately and just let their devices compete on an open market.

If it's good enough, it'll win on its merits, not on how good Apple's lawyers are.

sopharine said,
I'm not trolling or starting a flame war, but I genuinely want to ask Android users, do you really think Google have not copied single UI element of the iPhone? Because before iPhone come out in 2007, no eon have done the "slide to unlock", "pinch gesture" and "bouncing at the end of scrolling", etc.. I'm not here to defend the patent practice and the question have nothing to do with it.
You think Apple doesn't do any copying? Where do you think they got notifications for ios 5? Android. Where do you think they got the messaging idea? BBM. There are a lot of ideas they stole in ios5 from other OS's, it's not even funny. ios5 = compilation of features from every other smartphone OS.

sopharine said,
I'm not trolling or starting a flame war, but I genuinely want to ask Android users, do you really think Google have not copied single UI element of the iPhone? Because before iPhone come out in 2007, no eon have done the "slide to unlock", "pinch gesture" and "bouncing at the end of scrolling", etc.. I'm not here to defend the patent practice and the question have nothing to do with it.


i would ask you to get your facts correct before posting

ManMountain said,

Almost everyone I know with an Android device uses the pattern lock, not the slide to unlock. The "pinch" gesture I first saw was in 2006 via Jeff Han's multitouch demonstration. The "bouncing at the end of scrolling" has existed since 1997, shown via Hacker ASCII "art". Food for thought.


My point is that Apple is the first company to implement these on a smart phone, not just some concept from computer lab that never made it's way onto consumer hands. I never said one word Apple should patent it but shouldn't Android users at least credit where credit is due?

sopharine said,

My point is that Apple is the first company to implement these on a smart phone, not just some concept from computer lab that never made it's way onto consumer hands. I never said one word Apple should patent it but shouldn't Android users at least credit where credit is due?

.. and my point was to illustrate that Apple did not invent these technologies. Apple copied them and incorporated them into their mobile.

Just to point out that Apple has also copied features from Android OS and failed to give credit.

Having had Apple products in the past, I'm glad there is competition in the market place. Sorry Apple, but if a competitor releases a superior product such as the SGS 2, millions will buy it. Android is growing at a phenomenal pace, it's no wonder Apple is concerned but attempting to stifle the competition and their innovations via lawsuits isn't the way forward.

Whilst many supporters agree with Apples viewpoint that competitors are infringing on their patents, let's not forget that Apple is also guilty of the same charge. Should Apple ultimately win these disputes, it will have a dismal effect for the consumers choice.

Digitalx said,
nothing will get banned when you put up flawed photoshopped evidence like this

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/7006/appleevidence2.png
http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/4504/appleevidence.jpg


Yes, yes it could
One picture which is slightly distorted, one single picture in a 64 pages long document. It wasn't even the focus of the page it was on, it being a bit distorted won't do a difference, the photos that filled the page before wasn't....

That said, I don't think they a chance in getting anything more banned, it's possible that they might be able to bad the Galaxy Tab 10.1 when all this is over, but all their smartphones and the 7 inch Galaxy Tab? No chance at all!

Leonick said,

Yes, yes it could
One picture which is slightly distorted, one single picture in a 64 pages long document. It wasn't even the focus of the page it was on, it being a bit distorted won't do a difference, the photos that filled the page before wasn't....

That said, I don't think they a chance in getting anything more banned, it's possible that they might be able to bad the Galaxy Tab 10.1 when all this is over, but all their smartphones and the 7 inch Galaxy Tab? No chance at all!


See that's what you don't understand.... that's the only picture that is presented to judge for comparison.... also did u notice there is a silver lining on the samsung tab over the edges which is not there for real... That is a crime actually and they should be punished for that... Apple is not god.

Leonick said,

Yes, yes it could
One picture which is slightly distorted, one single picture in a 64 pages long document. It wasn't even the focus of the page it was on, it being a bit distorted won't do a difference, the photos that filled the page before wasn't....

That said, I don't think they a chance in getting anything more banned, it's possible that they might be able to bad the Galaxy Tab 10.1 when all this is over, but all their smartphones and the 7 inch Galaxy Tab? No chance at all!

Just keep on believing that one false item does not invalidate an entire legal document.

Samsung really should just stop producing the displays they do for Apple and use them for themselves and other Android manufacturers.

Slugsie said,
Samsung really should just stop producing the displays they do for Apple and use them for themselves and other Android manufacturers.
Yeah because thats likely...

Guys you dont understand, Samsung is forcing Apple to improve their products much faster than they planned too. With Samsung out of picture they will be able to go back to their own schedule. It's best for you this way, just trust Apple.

random_ said,
Guys you dont understand, Samsung is forcing Apple to improve their products much faster than they planned too. With Samsung out of picture they will be able to go back to their own schedule. It's best for you this way, just trust Apple.

That would be a really good argument, If it wasn't for the fact that Apple had slowed down with their releases, a new iPhone is overdue and yet they are selling just as good as ever so I don't think that's it...
Personally I think their lawyers just got bored, this led to them going all out becoming real aholes...

Leonick said,

That would be a really good argument, If it wasn't for the fact that Apple had slowed down with their releases, a new iPhone is overdue and yet they are selling just as good as ever so I don't think that's it...
Personally I think their lawyers just got bored, this led to them going all out becoming real aholes...

Somebody's sarcasm meter is broken...

This is getting out of hand. I hope they fine apple and make them Samsung's legal expenses in this matter. If Apple wins this case, it's just a matter of time before they go after other manufactures.

Apple you can't be happy with bllions in cash, one of the best selling tablets and phones of our time can you?

I am sorry that you don't have 100% dominance of the market. You take the good work of people on Cydia that didn't fit your application guidelines only to use the same features they have worked on and add it to IOS5. Your Smart-Cover isn't so smart as you were not the first to incorporate a magnetic switch for the phones/tablets. Blackberry and Case-Mate ring a bell?

What do you produce in the 7" form factor that infringes on your patents?

It is as if Apple invented technology and the mobile phones. I think I will go back to a cup and string so I don't get sued by Apple.

mrmomoman said,

It is as if Apple invented technology and the mobile phones. I think I will go back to a cup and string so I don't get sued by Apple.

Didn't you know? Steve Jobs went back in time and patented everything that's ever been invented on the very first day the patent office opened. Then he went further back, roundhouse kicked the cavemen who invited fire and the wheel, and put it about that HE did it instead.

Although I've respect for apples product but I dont own any of 'em or will own any of 'em this is just going overboard.. guys get yourself a life. live in competetion dont just add another one of law freaking suit everytime.. this is getting old..

How anti-competitive of Apple. I hope they get investigated for anti-competitive practice. What is Apple afraid of anyways? It's not like they (Apple) haven't done any copying in their life as a business. They're just a whiny little bitch that needs to grow a sack. If your products are good, then you should have nothing to worry about.

still1 said,

I am starting to hate Apple more now... sick of this BS

Well I'm definitely getting real tired of their lawyers...
I'm not gonna hate on the whole company, my iPhone is still a great phone, even if Apples lawyers are becoming real a**holes...
The Galaxy Tab 10.1(8.9) and the the Galaxy S/S 2 phones I could kind of understand, I could see where they were coming from but this is just ridiculous...