Editorial

Apple won't announce an iPad mini this week

It's completely understandable why people let their imaginations run away with them when it comes to Apple. Their products are innovative, they're fun, they're magical. And, of course, Apple works really hard to maintain that image.

That brings us to the first reason why Apple won't unveil a new iPad this Wednesday. The new iPhone will be a big release. We're all but sure there'll be a new look and feel to the device, along with a few very cool features. So why would Apple want their flagship product sharing press attention with a new, smaller iPad?

Taking a look at the way Apple has been operating to date, it's clear that they understand the importance of having only one major announcement at a time. If iOS 6 has its own announcement, you can be sure that an iPad mini isn't going to be the supporting act at the new iPhone launch.

If you need a second reason why there won't be a new iPad this week, have a think about the leaks and rumours from around the web. We've been told that Apple will be giving us an iPhone with a bigger screen, and an iPad with a smaller screen. Would they really release a bigger iPhone at the same time as a smaller iPad?

Apple has been incredibly successful to date with the iPhone, the world's best-selling smartphone, and the iPad is the world's best-selling tablet. People are clearly very happy with these devices as they are. For Apple, there are clear cost advantages when producing only one model without variations in size/specifications (excluding capacity). There really isn't a reason for Apple to change this right now.

Some might argue that Apple needs to compete with the 7-inch Android devices, such as Amazon's Kindle Fire. However, the best feature on those tablets isn't the size, it's the price – they're half the price of the iPad 2. If Apple really sees these slightly-smaller tablets as a threat, they'd do better making a cheaper and lighter iPad than a smaller one.

This Wednesday we'll see the new iPhone, and it'll be headline news around the world. There'll be comparisons with competing devices, discussions about the post-Jobs era, and some complaints about the lack of a feature or two that everyone was hoping for. It's very unlikely that an iPad mini is going to be sharing any of that attention.

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No, it wont be announced this week but when it is it will be game on!

The new iPad Air will be perfect for a woman to pop in her handbag and what woman wont want to do this? I know they wont want a surface and I know they dont care about Windows or office.

As much as the rumor mill there is on this...I still don't believe that an iPad mini exists nor do I believe that Apple will be announcing one anytime soon. Apple has made no move to ask developers to start making their apps to work on a smaller display...which current apps that are designed specifically for the iPad retina display would look crappy on an iPad mini display. It makes no sense since none of the current 'android' (i.e kindle, nook, actual droid) 7-9" tablets are posing any threat to the iPad.

It could be that the iPad Mini runs the same display resolution as the iPad. However, I agree that developers would still need to work to design applications to support input on a small screen - with smaller buttons, etc.

It's hard to claim that they won't unveil two new devices because one is larger and one is smaller. Not to be rude, but that's slightly foolish to think that's the reasoning behind it. With that logic you could claim they won't unveil both products because they have different aspect ratios.

They likely won't unveil an iPad mini because it's not ready. iPads usually have their own event and something this big shouldn't be dwarfed by an iPhone launch, and vice versa.

There have been very little about the iPad mini including leaks of the actual product. Usually components are leaked ahead of the event. This case, there wasn't.

No offence taken, Andrew. The argument was not that Apple wouldn't announce both, but that they wouldn't announce two major devices on the same day. The secondary argument was about the rumoured differences, and Apple is even less likely to announce to devices in one day that are both significantly different to previous versons. I hope that helps to clarify things.

I agree that the lack of leaks also supports the argument that there won't be an iPad Mini announcement on 12/09.

To this day, 5 YEARS later, the only thing Apple has done to impress me, jaw drop, impress me, was smooth pinch to zoom.

To make an iphone, and then a bigger iphone, and then a smaller one that doesn't make calls, is not innovation, it's simplicity. That the mainstream OEMS have been systematically inept at simplicity is a testament to their own incompetence.

Good article and very true!
I wouldn't say Apple are that much of an innovator, they are just really good at marketing and producing current products that ingrain themselves in the consumers psyche.

MikeHellstone said,
Good article and very true!
I wouldn't say Apple are that much of an innovator, they are just really good at marketing and producing current products that ingrain themselves in the consumers psyche.

Finally a person who can understand what Apple is doing right and not saying "Apple made this revolutionary product".

Apple hardware isn't terrible, slightly outdated maybe, but not bad. The main problem I have is that they run on iOS, which doesn't offer any flexibility and just seems restricted when compared to Windows 8 and Android.

drazgoosh said,
Apple hardware isn't terrible, slightly outdated maybe, but not bad. The main problem I have is that they run on iOS, which doesn't offer any flexibility and just seems restricted when compared to Windows 8 and Android.

Restricted from what? Especially Windows Phone?

The hardware is shown to constantly match or outperform much newer devices. Especially in gaming. So outdated is a misnomer, not cutting edge, but optimised to be the best it can be in the devices battery restrictions etc.

Why is title written like a fact? I read the article and wasted time on it, I don't care about your opinion on whether its coming or not. We use forums for that.

paulheu said,
Try finding out what the word editorial means. In short it's an opinion, not a news item

Makes sense, thanks!

Why so much hate people?

Personally, I am happy that Apple won't announce iPad mini as my iPad 3 would have been obsolete in just 4 months

sanke1 said,
Personally, I am happy that Apple won't announce iPad mini as my iPad 3 would have been obsolete in just 4 months

I'm a bit puzzled by the fact you fail to realize that the iPad mini, if released, is targeted at the low-end market. The "iPad 3" will still be Apple's high-end premium device.

sanke1 said,
Why so much hate people?

Personally, I am happy that Apple won't announce iPad mini as my iPad 3 would have been obsolete in just 4 months


Can you post a link that says it isn't announcing the mini this week? This article is an editorial, as in rumor, so where did you get the information that says it isn't being announced for sure this week?

Apple products are good, there is no denying there. What they are not is innovative or ground breaking as products. Nothing Apple has done was a first, neither was it best. The first three iPhones were at best average products as far as quality and functionality goes. Only with the 4 did it become a solid product IMO.

Apple has not invented one single piece of technology they sell. They either improve on existing tech or buy the company where new tech was developed. Not saying there is anything wrong with that, but just saying.

What they are good at is selling what they have and marketing it. Whether post-Jobs this is still the case we'll know in three days. What I expect is basically the 4GS with a higher screen and new digital connector and iOS6.

What will happen is they will sell the Facebook and Twitter integration as a breakthrough experience bringing your social life and your phone together. They will be able to spin one of the key features of Windows Phone and make it sound like they have found a way to make this the best experience ever. They will be able to present this in a way Joe Average gets it and this is where they win. Microsoft has never been able to communicate to the man in the street in an understandable way and instead talks at their user base not to them.

Nokia, IMO the only company capable of the level Apple is at has IMO superiour skills and tech, but has no clue nor the talent to tell the story in a believable and compelling way. Last weeks presentation proves my point there, the story was good an the tech truly ground breaking and innovative, the storytellers were horrific and that killed the message.

Edited by paulheu, Sep 9 2012, 11:29am :

paulheu said,
Apple products are good, there is no denying there. What they are not is innovative or ground breaking as products. Nothing Apple has done was a first, neither was it best. The first three iPhones were at best average products as far as quality and functionality goes. Only with the 4 did it become a solid product IMO.

If your statement is true, then explain to us why the industry seems to follow Apple? While they might not be the first at some things, the industry takes note at what Apple is doing, then reacts. I mean, a company was recently found guilty of reacting too similarly.


Apple has not invented one single piece of technology they sell. They either improve on existing tech or buy the company where new tech was developed. Not saying there is anything wrong with that, but just saying.

I want to take your word for it, but then there's the simple fact that Apple holds patents for the stuff that they've invented getting in the way.


What they are good at is selling what they have and marketing it. Whether post-Jobs this is still the case we'll know in three days. What I expect is basically the 4GS with a higher screen and new digital connector and iOS6.

I would say that they're also good at providing a good product and service that people tend to buy into and like. Check the customer satisfactory ratings. Also, the new iPhone is going to be more than the three things you mentioned. Pretty obvious.


What will happen is they will sell the Facebook and Twitter integration as a breakthrough experience bringing your social life and your phone together. They will be able to spin one of the key features of Windows Phone and make it sound like they have found a way to make this the best experience ever. They will be able to present this in a way Joe Average gets it and this is where they win. Microsoft has never been able to communicate to the man in the street in an understandable way and instead talks at their user base not to them.

iPhone users have had the ability to post to Twitter and Facebook for four years now, albeit it's been through their respective apps, but Apple will just show the iPhone users how much easier it is to do now. They'll make it seem awesome to their own base in their sales pitch, but I don't think they'll act as if they're the first to do it. And since you want to play the who's on first game, Android had Windows Phone's key feature first...


Nokia, IMO the only company capable of the level Apple is at has IMO superiour skills and tech, but has no clue nor the talent to tell the story in a believable and compelling way. Last weeks presentation proves my point there, the story was good an the tech truly ground breaking and innovative, the storytellers were horrific and that killed the message.

...because Nokia faked it...

Actually, if I were Apple, I'd be worried about Amazon. They killed it last week.

First off, Nokia did not fake anything, stupid and clueless journalists followed one wannabe who tries to be clever like a horde of lemmings.. I dare you to prove there was anything in the videos and subsequent press event where Nokia claimed they shot the videos using the 920 with the intention to show of the 920 video capabilities. I dare you. The videos clearly said and were shown to demonstrate the concept of OIS and nothing else. As such they were perfectly OK.

I owned a HTC Desire before coming to the Lumia 800 and found especially the contact/social media integration much more solid and easy to use on WP.

We'll see what the iPhone is going to bring, but my money is on the screen and new connector besides a lot of big numbers which in everyday life and use mean nothing.

If you look closely Apple patents are usually an adoption of an existing tech to their own standards. by your book they invented the rectangle with rounded corners as a device shape because they patented it. I distinctly remember this shape from way before that.

Apple has not been a trendsetter for years. All their product are trying to catch up to the rest every release. They are good at selling their product and presenting it in a way that suggests they are trendsetting, but the simple fact is they aren't.

That said, and I repeat, their products are not bad. They are well produced and designed devices which in general perform well. But there is no way they will be bringing anything to the table this Wednesday that will be more innovative or 'ground breaking' as what Nokia presented in such a bad way last Wednesday.

I can assure you that I'm no Apple fanboy. I'm typing this on my Samsung Series 9 notebook, running Windows 8. My phone is a Lumia 800. My console is an Xbox. I'm a Microsoft fanboy

Okay, first of all, stop with the "fanboy" crap. Let's be honest, Apple has come along way, they've become the most valuable company in Tech history. You can hate them for all you want, but it won't stop the fact that they're extremely popular & many people, besides me, and companies like Nike have been favorable of the iPhone. There are things that you wish worked on Windows Phone & the Android. It's pretty funny because there are over 10-20 companies that are all using Android, which are having to gang up on one company that still seems to be doing it bigger than all of them.

Writing on a Widows PC, owning an Xbox, and using an iPhone because I can do a lot more with it than my ol' crappy Sidekick 4G. Sorry if I sound absurd or oblivious, but you shouldn't hate on what does better.

Agreed, MrXXIV. Apple is a leader in this space. There's a good reason people love their Apple products, and I often feel a little envy - even though I like my Windows/Xbox ecosystem.

Brody McKee said,
I can assure you that I'm no Apple fanboy. I'm typing this on my Samsung Series 9 notebook, running Windows 8. My phone is a Lumia 800. My console is an Xbox. I'm a Microsoft fanboy

You have redeemed yourself

MrXXIV said,
Okay, first of all, stop with the "fanboy" crap. Let's be honest, Apple has come along way, they've become the most valuable company in Tech history. You can hate them for all you want, but it won't stop the fact that they're extremely popular & many people, besides me, and companies like Nike have been favorable of the iPhone. There are things that you wish worked on Windows Phone & the Android. It's pretty funny because there are over 10-20 companies that are all using Android, which are having to gang up on one company that still seems to be doing it bigger than all of them.

Writing on a Widows PC, owning an Xbox, and using an iPhone because I can do a lot more with it than my ol' crappy Sidekick 4G. Sorry if I sound absurd or oblivious, but you shouldn't hate on what does better.


MrXXIV said,
Okay, first of all, stop with the "fanboy" crap. Let's be honest, Apple has come along way, they've become the most valuable company in Tech history. You can hate them for all you want, but it won't stop the fact that they're extremely popular & many people, besides me, and companies like Nike have been favorable of the iPhone. There are things that you wish worked on Windows Phone & the Android. It's pretty funny because there are over 10-20 companies that are all using Android, which are having to gang up on one company that still seems to be doing it bigger than all of them.

Writing on a Widows PC, owning an Xbox, and using an iPhone because I can do a lot more with it than my ol' crappy Sidekick 4G. Sorry if I sound absurd or oblivious, but you shouldn't hate on what does better.

Sorry about the double posting, but I can't seem to find a way to edit my earlier post.

Anyways, I'm genuinely curious as to what you can do on an iPhone that you can't do on Android. I have owned three Android phones, and recently bought an iPad; I am continually frustrated by the things I can do on my phone that I can't do on Apple's tablet. From my experience, there are two major differences that set Apple's iOS products apart: the first is a simpler (and thus easier to use) and overall tighter/more fluid interface; the second is superior apps and a somewhat superior app ecosystem.

As to the first issue, Google has recently committed to improving the general experience and fluidity of its operating system and IMO has largely succeeded. As to the second, I think that the quality of apps is largely to blame on the developers. I know that the Android scene is highly fragmented, and this can definitely cause headaches for anyone writing apps, but seriously people are very lazy when it comes to even simple UI decisions on Android apps. I think if Google cracked down more on the interface like Apple does, you would see more consistancy and quality.

So to return to my original question, what things can you do on an iOS product that you can't on Android?

The D said,

Sorry about the double posting, but I can't seem to find a way to edit my earlier post.

Anyways, I'm genuinely curious as to what you can do on an iPhone that you can't do on Android. I have owned three Android phones, and recently bought an iPad; I am continually frustrated by the things I can do on my phone that I can't do on Apple's tablet. From my experience, there are two major differences that set Apple's iOS products apart: the first is a simpler (and thus easier to use) and overall tighter/more fluid interface; the second is superior apps and a somewhat superior app ecosystem.

As to the first issue, Google has recently committed to improving the general experience and fluidity of its operating system and IMO has largely succeeded. As to the second, I think that the quality of apps is largely to blame on the developers. I know that the Android scene is highly fragmented, and this can definitely cause headaches for anyone writing apps, but seriously people are very lazy when it comes to even simple UI decisions on Android apps. I think if Google cracked down more on the interface like Apple does, you would see more consistancy and quality.

So to return to my original question, what things can you do on an iOS product that you can't on Android?

Have a smooth reliable experience using the device. My Samsung S3 is no where near as robust as my old 4S.

To reverse the question, what can you do on an Android device can't on an iPhone? Any useful examples happily excepted.

BTW, there is the 'edit' pen next to the Like link on your post Easily missed.

Septimus said,

Have a smooth reliable experience using the device. My Samsung S3 is no where near as robust as my old 4S.

To reverse the question, what can you do on an Android device can't on an iPhone? Any useful examples happily excepted.

BTW, there is the 'edit' pen next to the Like link on your post Easily missed.

I saw that pen on my iPad, but when I clicked it, I couldn't type in the text box. So I looked it up on my phone and laptop, and now the pen is completely gone.

Anyways, there are several key things that I find superior on Android, at least in my day-to-day use. One is the presence of memory card access, and the file system of Android in general. On Android, I can do whatever I want with my files; I can put them in folders, access them from any app I want, and if the storage on my phone/tablet is inadequate, I can add more via SD cards which are far more affordable than paying $100 for more storage on an Apple device. On iOS, you have to go to iTunes and copy the files to every app you want to use them in. This is especially problematic with photos. If I want to throw a couple of photos onto my Android device, I can just copy them to any place I want, and they will show up. On iOS, I have to sync through iTunes, which requires an entire folder or folders to be selected. Then, if I don't pick the same folders that are already synced, it will delete any pictures I HAVEN'T synced. Not only that, but I don't see any way of sorting photos on the iPad (please tell me if there is). I have tons of vacation pictures that I was showing my family, and I had to keep explaining that this picture is actually a completely different day, and this picture here is the week before, etc. which made it very awkward.

There are other features that don't come to mind, but the one other thing I can think of is the highly robust and modular "share" system that is available to all Android apps. It is so much nicer being able to share anything from any app to any other destination; on iOS you generally only have email, sms, and twitter although it looks like Facebook will be added with iOS 6.

As for smooth and reliable, I can't speak for the S3 but my EVO 4G LTE is very smooth, and close to as reliable as iOS. To be honest I have had my share of force closes and bugs on my iPad, although admittedly not as many as on Android. That being said, I would still put the stability of my phone at 90-95% of the experience I have on Apple's tablet.

MFH said,

Actually they haven't (IBM is)...

Are you referring to this post: http://techcrunch.com/2012/08/...th-a-value-of-1-3-trillion/ ?

they updated it to say:


Correction: The CJR's IBM information is incorrect. Its 1967 market cap in today's dollars is $192.3 billion. Microsoft is still number one when you account for inflation. Its market cap, as also stated by the Columbia Journalism Review “was actually about $856 billion in constant dollars, $235 billion more than Apple's current market cap.”

MrXXIV said,
Okay, first of all, stop with the "fanboy" crap. Let's be honest, Apple has come along way, they've become the most valuable company in Tech history. You can hate them for all you want, but it won't stop the fact that they're extremely popular & many people, besides me, and companies like Nike have been favorable of the iPhone. There are things that you wish worked on Windows Phone & the Android. It's pretty funny because there are over 10-20 companies that are all using Android, which are having to gang up on one company that still seems to be doing it bigger than all of them.

Writing on a Widows PC, owning an Xbox, and using an iPhone because I can do a lot more with it than my ol' crappy Sidekick 4G. Sorry if I sound absurd or oblivious, but you shouldn't hate on what does better.

Okay, first of all, stop with the "hate" crap. You complain about the fanboy label, then use the hate label - doesn't make you any better than those you are condemning.

There are companies that support Windows Phone or Android. So why is Nike special and catapults the iPhone into the ranks of the best simply because Nike is favorable to them? Home Depot gives their employees WP7, so I guess that makes WP as special as the iPhone. Just because a company supports one over another does not instantly make that product better, because I can find many instances of companies that support the iPhone, WP, Android, and even Blackberry.

And then we need to tug at the heart strings - all these big, bad companies ganging up on poor little Apple. I don't see those companies suing Apple at every turn, rather it is the other way around. See, Apple can take whatever idea they want, but will whine when people take ideas from them. Apple needs a notification system - the one from Android will do. Apple needs to set up a way for game players to brag about what they have done in their games, Apple takes not only the idea, but also the very name Achievements from Microsoft. But Samsung uses the color green for an phone icon? Apple needs to protect their designs and sue.

And what are these things that I wished worked on my WP7 that are not on iPhone? I had an iPhone, and I don't miss a thing.

Other manufacturers are leaders in areas that Apple is in. there are multiple computer makers that sell more computers per year than Apple. There are many companies that support Windows over OSX. So I guess people need to stop showing their "hate" towards Windows, Microsoft, Dell, HP, etc. because they are very popular, and, like we cannot say anything negative about the iPhone or Apple because they are popular, we cannot say anything that may put those companies in a poor light - because that would make you a "hater".

I would have written this on my iPad, but because of bugs in their software I had to switch to my Win8 tablet.

The D said,

I saw that pen on my iPad, but when I clicked it, I couldn't type in the text box. So I looked it up on my phone and laptop, and now the pen is completely gone.

Anyways, there are several key things that I find superior on Android, at least in my day-to-day use. One is the presence of memory card access, and the file system of Android in general. On Android, I can do whatever I want with my files; I can put them in folders, access them from any app I want, and if the storage on my phone/tablet is inadequate, I can add more via SD cards which are far more affordable than paying $100 for more storage on an Apple device. On iOS, you have to go to iTunes and copy the files to every app you want to use them in. This is especially problematic with photos. If I want to throw a couple of photos onto my Android device, I can just copy them to any place I want, and they will show up. On iOS, I have to sync through iTunes, which requires an entire folder or folders to be selected. Then, if I don't pick the same folders that are already synced, it will delete any pictures I HAVEN'T synced. Not only that, but I don't see any way of sorting photos on the iPad (please tell me if there is). I have tons of vacation pictures that I was showing my family, and I had to keep explaining that this picture is actually a completely different day, and this picture here is the week before, etc. which made it very awkward.

There are other features that don't come to mind, but the one other thing I can think of is the highly robust and modular "share" system that is available to all Android apps. It is so much nicer being able to share anything from any app to any other destination; on iOS you generally only have email, sms, and twitter although it looks like Facebook will be added with iOS 6.

As for smooth and reliable, I can't speak for the S3 but my EVO 4G LTE is very smooth, and close to as reliable as iOS. To be honest I have had my share of force closes and bugs on my iPad, although admittedly not as many as on Android. That being said, I would still put the stability of my phone at 90-95% of the experience I have on Apple's tablet.

Its people like you who make other people think iOS is so gimped. your biggest complaint, moving around files in the file system is all but a moot point. most people using android for a phone or tablet OS dont give 2 ****s about moving around their files on their phone to different directories. Proof? Most people using computers can barely do it nor do they care. As an iOS power user I will agree that yes moving files around in android is a lot easier but thats not what i use a tablet or my iphone for. I use my ipad and iphone for devices that are stuper stable and with what functionality they have (including apps) run great. There are many apps that can share the files you put in them with one another and i put things in apps for storage all the time that does not require hooking it to iTunes (airshare, goodplayer). If I wanted to be moving files around all the time i would use my windows laptop, for my tablet and phone im not looking or the same experince and i think MOST users are not either.

As for something that iOS can do that android cant? I have ownd a DroidX, Droid, Optimus S, Optimus Slider, and currently own and have sitting next to me an Acer Iconia A100. All have been horrible fumbles compared to iOS devices. My Acer is stock bare 4.0.3. Want to know what i did with it last night? took it off its stand only to find it was stuck auto updating my 20 apps i have on it. It took me 3 reboots to get all of the apps to update properly, this happens all the time with it and other droid devices ive had even though i only have about 20 apps i use that are all normal apps (evernote, netflix, dropbox etc). I've never had this issue on iOS (own iPad 1, 2, 3, iPod touch 3, 4, iPhone 4s). I know the Acer A100 is a decent device under the hood it just seems like with all the rest of my stock droid purchases in the past that Android simply cant deal with itself to actually run simple tasks well. Apps on the other hand run fine in droid it just seems to be the OS itself that cant perform.

MrXXIV said,
Okay, first of all, stop with the "fanboy" crap. Let's be honest, Apple has come along way, they've become the most valuable company in Tech history. You can hate them for all you want, but it won't stop the fact that they're extremely popular & many people, besides me, and companies like Nike have been favorable of the iPhone. There are things that you wish worked on Windows Phone & the Android. It's pretty funny because there are over 10-20 companies that are all using Android, which are having to gang up on one company that still seems to be doing it bigger than all of them.

Writing on a Widows PC, owning an Xbox, and using an iPhone because I can do a lot more with it than my ol' crappy Sidekick 4G. Sorry if I sound absurd or oblivious, but you shouldn't hate on what does better.


These is one of may downsides of YouTube, FB, and blogs they give anyone the false idea that their thought are worth publishing, ignoring the fact that the once believe to be heading for oblivion are now one of the three leading companies when it comes to PCs and the fact that a kid "hates" MS, or Apple or Google is proof enough of how far away their brains are from adulthood.

zeroomegazx said,

Its people like you who make other people think iOS is so gimped. your biggest complaint, moving around files in the file system is all but a moot point. most people using android for a phone or tablet OS dont give 2 ****s about moving around their files on their phone to different directories. Proof? Most people using computers can barely do it nor do they care. As an iOS power user I will agree that yes moving files around in android is a lot easier but thats not what i use a tablet or my iphone for. I use my ipad and iphone for devices that are stuper stable and with what functionality they have (including apps) run great. There are many apps that can share the files you put in them with one another and i put things in apps for storage all the time that does not require hooking it to iTunes (airshare, goodplayer). If I wanted to be moving files around all the time i would use my windows laptop, for my tablet and phone im not looking or the same experince and i think MOST users are not either.

As for something that iOS can do that android cant? I have ownd a DroidX, Droid, Optimus S, Optimus Slider, and currently own and have sitting next to me an Acer Iconia A100. All have been horrible fumbles compared to iOS devices. My Acer is stock bare 4.0.3. Want to know what i did with it last night? took it off its stand only to find it was stuck auto updating my 20 apps i have on it. It took me 3 reboots to get all of the apps to update properly, this happens all the time with it and other droid devices ive had even though i only have about 20 apps i use that are all normal apps (evernote, netflix, dropbox etc). I've never had this issue on iOS (own iPad 1, 2, 3, iPod touch 3, 4, iPhone 4s). I know the Acer A100 is a decent device under the hood it just seems like with all the rest of my stock droid purchases in the past that Android simply cant deal with itself to actually run simple tasks well. Apps on the other hand run fine in droid it just seems to be the OS itself that cant perform.

Well, I'm not sure why you had such a hostile tone, but I certainly am not making an argument for all of society. I simply was explaining the issues I personally have between the two operating systems, and was genuinely interested to know what advantages iOS has beyond those I am already aware of. Obviously not everybody is a power user, and the issues I have are not necessarily issues that the average person might. Apple products obviously appeal to a large number of people, many of which are casual users and may not encounter the more "power" features that some of us use. That being said, my problems are still issues that exist. As for your other issues with Android stability, I'm sorry to hear about them, and I do know that there are others that have had similar problems. Perhaps I have been lucky, but on all three of my devices, I have only had limited problems. More so than my iPad, sure, but when you combine the existing iOS bugs that I have had with the lack of features on iOS, it makes a compelling argument in my instance.

In conclusion, you responded with "As for something that iOS can do that android cant?" but never elaborated. I am genuinely curious as to your examples. I find technology quite fascinating and am always looking at everything that is available, so it's interesting to me to see the differences. In fact I think that's what's wonderful about technology, is all the different options- there's something for everyone.

The D said,

So to return to my original question, what things can you do on an iOS product that you can't on Android?

I own both systems. And they do the same thing in general. I just like the iOS experience though. I don't jailbreak, I dont root. Android is nice but iOS just as a bit more refinement. I gave my wife the chance to choose either too. She wanted iOS after using the original droid for 3 years.

SIDE note. I do not like using MACS either. I rather be on a WIN machine

moloko said,

I own both systems. And they do the same thing in general. I just like the iOS experience though. I don't jailbreak, I dont root. Android is nice but iOS just as a bit more refinement. I gave my wife the chance to choose either too. She wanted iOS after using the original droid for 3 years.

DrakeN2k said,
So did I , apple fan boys sound more and more cultist

So im assuming anybody says anything good about apple, they are a fanboy,, that sound more of a cult thing / hater then the fans of apple

The D said,

Anyways, I'm genuinely curious as to what you can do on an iPhone that you can't do on Android.
So to return to my original question, what things can you do on an iOS product that you can't on Android?

Have a battery that last over 10 hours while watching movies the whole time ? Co woker has a transformer, battery lasts a fraction of the time

Edited by Hell-In-A-Handbasket, Sep 10 2012, 3:01pm :

You tell those haters! They just will hate against anyone without any cause (like they did you without checking any facts first).

Brody McKee said,
I can assure you that I'm no Apple fanboy. I'm typing this on my Samsung Series 9 notebook, running Windows 8. My phone is a Lumia 800. My console is an Xbox. I'm a Microsoft fanboy