Apple's Safari on the rise, up 4.67% since 2006

Over the last few years, Microsoft Internet Explorer has seen huge loses in market share. In the final month of 2008, the trend continued. Internet Explorer has dropped 16% in market share since May of 2006, which has left the door open for other browsers to gain what Internet Explorer has lost. In the month of December 2008, Apple's Safari hit a all-time high closing with 7.93% of the market share. Internet Explorer closed the year with 68.15% of the total market share. The data collected by researchers was collected from 40,000 corporate and e-commerce websites.

While Internet Explorer still holds the biggest majority of the market, if this steep decline continues who will take over the majority of the market? Can Internet Explorer 8 bring back some of the 16% it has lost over the past 2 years? Analysts are skeptical, but only time will tell.

Net Applications' December 2008 Web Browser Stats:
Microsoft Internet Explorer: 68.15% (vs. MAY 2006: 84.20%)
Mozilla Firefox: 21.34% (vs. MAY 2006: 10.55%)
Apple Safari: 7.93% (vs. MAY 2006: 3.26%)
- iPhone: 0.44%
- iPod: 0.08%
Google Chrome: 1.04%
Opera: 0.71%
Netscape: 0.57%
Mozilla: 0.08%
Opera Mini: 0.07%
Playstation: 0.04%
ACCESS NetFront: 0.02%
Blazer: 0.01%
Microsoft Pocket Internet Explorer: 0.01%
BlackBerry: 0.00%

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Nice, anything to wear down IE6's market-share is a plus in my eyes.

One thing that I did notice however, is that Google Chrome is beating Opera and in comparison to how long Opera has been out, that's sad. I guess Chrome just builds in more originality and being Google does pretty much help regardless...

alot of the rise of safari will be because macbooks are so popular, default os is macosx and default browser is safari, its a decent browser, better than i.e but its functionality cant compete with firefox.

"better than i.e." ... and you base this on what? Your personal preference? Market shares? Number of users? Supported sites? Supported third-party plug-ins? Security? Just exactly how do you base your opinion. I use Safari on various Apple products, because I am forced to, but by no means do I believe it is better than Internet Explorer.

bradsday said,
"better than i.e." ... and you base this on what? Your personal preference? Market shares? Number of users? Supported sites? Supported third-party plug-ins? Security? Just exactly how do you base your opinion. I use Safari on various Apple products, because I am forced to, but by no means do I believe it is better than Internet Explorer.

You my sir, are an ignorant fool. IE is a hole-ridden, ugly-looking monster. Haven't you read about all the vulnerabilities and exploits within IE?
And if IE 6 was available for Mac, would you actually install it?

I didn't see a source in the article but here's one with similar numbers. They have one about Operating System market share too.

The whole iTunes/QuickTime updates "offering" to install Safari doesn't look like it's playing a significant role in Safari's uptake because damn near all of the Safari users are on Mac OS X (96%). I read that as "Apple is gaining a whole whack of new Mac users but still can't make software for Windows that people want to use."

Also interesting was that Linux users out number iPhone users by only 2:1. That's an amazing statistic for any number of reasons: Linux has > 10 years of development slowly pushing it toward the desktop and the iPhone made huge strides in only 2 years. People are actually browsing the web in significant numbers on their iPhone (see blackberry and windows mobile at ~1/100%)

Big f'in deal. Statistics can be spun any way you want.
Let's say Safari had a market share of 2% or lets say 3,000 users. Now if 6,000 users downloaded it (even if they didn't use it), Apple could say their market share is up 50% over the last year. All companies spin stats to make them look good.

naap51stang said,
Big f'in deal. Statistics can be spun any way you want.
Let's say Safari had a market share of 2% or lets say 3,000 users. Now if 6,000 users downloaded it (even if they didn't use it), Apple could say their market share is up 50% over the last year. All companies spin stats to make them look good.

You really don't know what your talking about to you. These stats are taken by lots of different websites and look at what the visitors used. These stats are nothing to do with downloads and are independent of any browser company.

In future read article before opening your mouth, you won't look so foolish then.

I don't understand why the browser war is still important, it's not like anyone is making money from them or am I missing something. Ok so years ago when sites just used to work with one browser, having a big market share would encourage people to design for yours but now with everyone driving web standards is that really necessary?

Nice way to spin the title towards Apple btw. Noticed FireFox was mentioned in stats only.

excalpius said,
Fanboyism takes many forms, even among submitters and editors...ahem.

Right. Because when there is something positive in the news about Apple (and there has been plenty for quite a while now), it must be "fanboyism."

LTD said,
Right. Because when there is something positive in the news about Apple (and there has been plenty for quite a while now), it must be "fanboyism."

I dont even like apple that much but your right.

It's "spun" towards Apple because it's news. Perhaps also because Safari isn't exactly that great on Windows would also help it qualify as being newsworthy. I'm only speaking from what I hear about Safari on Windows though. Haven't tried it in a long time, but needless to say, I'm scarred for life. :P

Anyhow, we're already aware of Firefox and how far it's come. It's like saying long cat is long or something. We already know.

LTD said,
Right. Because when there is something positive in the news about Apple (and there has been plenty for quite a while now), it must be "fanboyism."


I have to be honest here, when I see your name next to any post in an Apple discussion, I just assume it's fanboyism, your bias knows no limits.

bob_c_b said,
I have to be honest here, when I see your name next to any post in an Apple discussion, I just assume it's fanboyism, your bias knows no limits.

Oh, well that's because I AM an Apple fanboy. That's just how good their stuff is. I don't hide it.

I don't try to feign some sort of mock objectivity in order to win approval with lukewarm and meaningless generalized statements that can apply to everything, such as "it has its advantages and disadvantages." I come out in clear favour of things and I tell you why.

Fences aren't for sitting on.

LTD said,
Oh, well that's because I AM an Apple fanboy. That's just how good their stuff is. I don't hide it.

I don't try to feign some sort of mock objectivity in order to win approval with lukewarm and meaningless generalized statements that can apply to everything, such as "it has its advantages and disadvantages." I come out in clear favour of things and I tell you why.

Fences aren't for sitting on.

And I thank you for that.

LTD said,
Oh, well that's because I AM an Apple fanboy. That's just how good I pretend their stuff is. I don't hide it.

I don't try to feign some sort of mock objectivity in order to win approval with lukewarm and meaningless generalized statements that can apply to everything, such as "it has its advantages and disadvantages." I come out in clear favour of things and I tell you why.

Fences aren't for sitting on.


Fixed that for ya...

GreyWolfSC said,
Fixed that for ya... ;)

In order for me to say the kinds of things I'm saying, I'd have to believe them.

LTD said,
Right. Because when there is something positive in the news about Apple (and there has been plenty for quite a while now), it must be "fanboyism."

when mozilla gains 10.55% but the article's author is dry humping apple's leg over safari's amazing 3.26% gain then yes it's fanboyism.

twist said,
when mozilla gains 10.55% but the article's author is dry humping apple's leg over safari's amazing 3.26% gain then yes it's fanboyism.

We already know FF is popular. Safari, however, has been somewhat of an anomaly on PCs, therefore any news of its increase in popularity/share is noteworthy.

And the overall trends suggested by this article are also very telling. It's a very different tech world from just a few years ago.

excalpius said,
Fanboyism takes many forms, even among submitters and editors...ahem.


And leads to total ignorance amongst many others!

excalpius said,
Fanboyism takes many forms, even among submitters and editors...ahem.


Fanboyism? Hardly. I'm very fair when it comes to reporting news. If you'd like to know the truth, I don't own anything made by Apple. Being fair and non-biased =! fanboy.

Its amazing how low Opera's % is...I'm using Opera 10.00 and love it. Just always odd to see how little market share it has.

ncc50446 said,
Its amazing how low Opera's % is...I'm using Opera 10.00 and love it. Just always odd to see how little market share it has.

Over the last few years Opera's share has dropped.

Yeah, Opera has definitely improved a lot recently. However, it still doesn't have the extension support that Firefox does and that is one of the most important factors in browser choice.

However, it still doesn't have the extension support that Firefox does and that is one of the most important factors in browser choice.


What accounts for IE then? I really don't think the general computing public really cares about extensions, or even know what they are. Firefox has become very popular through word of mouth mostly. I know I've told many people about it who now use it who otherwise would still be using IE.

I've tried Opera many times over the years, even back when it cost money but I never quite liked it as much as Firefox. Until now anyway, I recently installed Opera 9.6 and I was really impressed with how much it has improved. Didn't take much tweaking at all to get it the way I want, and the Opera IBIS theme from the Chinese version is beautiful. Not sure why the default theme for the US version has such ugly buttons. Anyway it's now my main browser and Firefox is no longer even installed.

Skyfrog said,
What accounts for IE then?

The fact that it's bundled with Windows, which has the vast majority of the OS market. Firefox is popular largely because of AdBlock Plus, Mouse Gestures (something that Opera pioneered) and FlashGot (for downloading multiple files / Flash videos in just a few clicks). There are many others as well. Firefox also has the best bookmark system and download manager currently.

Opera's great but it's just not enough to make me move from Firefox. I've tried using it recently as my default browser and lasted several weeks (a record) but it just wasn't quite right.

excalpius said,
How does it feel to be all alone? ;)


LOL, read any Apple forum and the hate for Safari is pretty wide spread.

bob_c_b said,
LOL, read any Apple forum and the hate for Safari is pretty wide spread.

But not necessarily for Webkit specifically.

KHTML and WebKit-based browsers

ABrowse
Web Browser for Android (mobile device platform)
Arora
Epiphany, GNOME's current default browser (2.26+)
Google Chrome
iCab (version 4 uses WebKit; earlier versions used its own rendering engine)
Konqueror
Midori
OmniWeb
Safari
Shiira
Skipstone
Sputnik for MorphOS (based on S60 WebCore)
Web Browser for S60 (for mobile)

Webkit? Not a bad engine at all. Safari? Maybe.

Webkit is far faster than the current version of Gecko, although I think Firefox 3.1 will change that. But Webkit was far superior to any alternatives for a while. Only problem, and still the problem, is the lack of a good frontend for it (with the exception of Safari on the iPhone, all the Webkit browsers are really minimal and nothing to call home about).

I would attribute the rise in the use of Safari on it being bundled with the iPhone and iPod touch. Of course there was an increase at the end of the year, when most people received (like myself) these products as gifts. Highly doubt that the increase could be explained by users voluntarily downloading and installing the software. As far as browsers go, it really is not that impressive, but then again, neither are many of the other Internet Explorer alternatives. Of all the other products out there, would have to say (in my opinion) that FireFox is probably the best alternative. Think that with the advent of Internet Explorer 8 that they will regain some of this lost market share, but doubt that Microsoft is really losing any sleep at this point.

I agree with you. The Safari browser's success lately is due to exposure from the recent iPhone / iPod rush. I'm not going into the whole "PC vs Mac" debacle again, but some of that success could also be attributed to the "new recruits" of the Apple community.

I think the browser can hold its own for quite some time with a very modest amount of success. That's something Apple has dealt with for quite some time, quite comfortably at that.

Remember also that Apple forced Windows QuickTime users to download Safari via the forced updates. Mostly, I assume, to increase these numbers. Pretty cheap low class tactics (even for Apple), but all's fair in the browser wars I guess.

excalpius said,
Remember also that Apple forced Windows QuickTime users to download Safari via the forced updates. Mostly, I assume, to increase these numbers. Pretty cheap low class tactics (even for Apple), but all's fair in the browser wars I guess.


Not so different from MS marrying the perennially buggy and virus-ridden IE (not so much now, though) to Windows so closely that you couldn't remove it without serious consequences to system stability.

Of course, you always have the option of using another browser. And you can always remove Safari.

LTD said,
Not so different from MS marrying the perennially buggy and virus-ridden IE (not so much now, though) to Windows so closely that you couldn't remove it without serious consequences to system stability.

Of course, you always have the option of using another browser. And you can always remove Safari.

Not true. Independent research proved that IE could be removed with a few tweaks here and there and everything would work, and this was way back in the beginning of the Anti-trust trial.

LTD said,
Not so different from MS marrying the perennially buggy and virus-ridden IE (not so much now, though) to Windows so closely that you couldn't remove it without serious consequences to system stability.

Of course, you always have the option of using another browser. And you can always remove Safari.

But you can't remove Webkit, which is quite similar to Windows' dependency on IE.

MioTheGreat said,

But you can't remove Webkit, which is quite similar to Windows' dependency on IE.

Webkit isn't a virus magnet, nor is it tied into OS X the way IE is into Windows (horrible idea.) And you would just put Safari in the Trash and empty it. Or get rid of it however you want. That's it. No more Safari or Webkit, and OS X keeps on running smoothly without issues. Anyone can do it, and you don't need any kind of independent research to prove that you can.

LTD said,
Webkit isn't a virus magnet, nor is it tied into OS X the way IE is into Windows (horrible idea.) And you would just put Safari in the Trash and empty it. Or get rid of it however you want. That's it. No more Safari or Webkit, and OS X keeps on running smoothly without issues. Anyone can do it, and you don't need any kind of independent research to prove that you can.

That doesn't remove webkit itself from OSX. You think every app out there that uses HTML content statically links the renderer? That would be beyond frightening. Removing your OS's primary HTML rendering engine, or even letting the user consider doing such a thing, would be utterly stupid: too much depends on it.

I do agree that Microsoft let IE and Explorer get too close, though. Fortunately, this was solved with Vista. You can't remove IE, but nothing depends on the IE shell. Apps will (obviously) depend on the mshtml renderer as things depend on webkit on OSX, but that's about it.

MioTheGreat said,
That doesn't remove webkit itself from OSX. You think every app out there that uses HTML content statically links the renderer? That would be beyond frightening. Removing your OS's primary HTML rendering engine, or even letting the user consider doing such a thing, would be utterly stupid: too much depends on it.

I do agree that Microsoft let IE and Explorer get too close, though. Fortunately, this was solved with Vista. You can't remove IE, but nothing depends on the IE shell. Apps will (obviously) depend on the mshtml renderer as things depend on webkit on OSX, but that's about it.

My mistake, I'm getting careless here. Right, you can remove Safari easily, but not Webkit. The point I was trying to make - that shouldn't have taken me more than one post to do, LOL, is that amost every file in Windows can run some sort of internal scripting engine. They embedded activex in Internet Explorer. They embedded vbscript in office files. They used the same html viewer that runs those vbscripts in their mail program, etc.. WMV files can have embedded links that run when you click on them. OS X isn't immune to exploits, but it doesn't put out the welcome mat, etc.

Anything that reduces IE's market share is a good thing, at least while Microsoft continues to ignore standards compliance (even IE8 is severely lagging behind). However, I'd rather see people move onto a decent browser than Safari (my experience is based upon the Windows version, though I have no reason to believe the Mac version is much better).

Chrome has the most potential, though its lack of even basic privacy / browsing features is disappointing - with the proposed extension support and further development I can easily see it taking off. Firefox is still my default browser, though only thanks to the extension support - the development process has been very slow recently and security flaws more frequent. Opera has made some tremendous progress but still needs extension support.

I agree. I mean, Chrome's just hopped out there and it's already something I enjoy using, despite being a big fan of Firefox. I look forward to what's to come in the future.