Ballmer describes Vista as "work in progress"

Steve Ballmer has admitted that Vista is "a work in progress", and admitted the company has to learn lessons from its release. Speaking at the Most Valuable Professional Global Summit in Seattle, Ballmer resisted calls for a slimmed down Windows 7: "Vista is bigger than XP and it's gonna stay bigger than XP. We have to make sure it doesn't get bigger still."

However, Ballmer went on to admit that it had taken too long to get Vista out the door and admitted it had caused problems: "Vista is a very important piece of work, and I think we did a lot of things right, and I think we have a lot of things we need to learn from.

"Certainly, you never want to let five years go between releases... because it turns out many things become problematic when you have those long release cycles. The design point, what you should be targeting, we can never let that happen again. We had some things that we can't just set the dial back that I think people wish we could."

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So.... Microsoft admits what they've known all along. This isn't a surprise at all. Of course Microsoft will learn from Vista and of course Windows 7 will be better. Microsoft isn't as dumb as people would like to think they are.

Microsoft has learned from every single product they ever released.

(C_Guy said @ #17)
Microsoft has learned from every single product they ever released.

Vista is the first major release of Windows in almost a decade, and it's a 'work in progress'???

If Vista is anything to go by, MS is in the Special-Ed class, and has had a serious learning disability since 1995.

Damned if they maintain radio silence over software development, and damned if they be honest and indicate some form of improvement? Seriously, some of you wish MS would remain frozen in the Ice Age.

I think people are dwelling on this far too long. Ballmer didn't damn Vista with what he said. He just took down his invulnerability shield for a minute and attested to the accusations that the Vista launch was a fiasco (among other things). No reason to point fingers or lock eyes on the MSFT stocks just yet. I'm sure his peers at Redmond will take any necessary actions against him on the golf course.

Ouch! Ballmer needs to choose his words more carefully than that. Is that actually what he said? Of course it makes sense and to the computer savvy and educated there is nothing wrong. But to the stock holders, there may be a problem with his statements.

Well, maybe...he was pro-ms before he was against it - kinda like John Kerry:

"I actually did vote for the $87 billion, before i voted against it."

Just the thoughts of a warped mind.

A "work in progress"? Honestly, Ballmer shouldn't be saying this. Many people use Vista and it works perfectly for them. It's the damn press that makes Vista look bad.

(tsupersonic said @ #13)
A "work in progress"? Honestly, Ballmer shouldn't be saying this. Many people use Vista and it works perfectly for them. It's the damn press that makes Vista look bad.

Exactly. That's why I asked for an alternate source, otherwise I have to assume that it's the PC Pro author doing exactly what you said. The source article doesn't reference any other sources. Even unprofessional journalists could take to time to verify what they're writing.

When you consider the service packs, hotfixes, custom hotfixes, "feature packs" and so forth, every Windows OS is a "work in progress" until its lifecycle expires. Nothing to be alarmed about. I think he pretty much tried to say "Yeah, we kind of fumbled the whole Vista launch thing, but we're working on it and everything will be OK. Want a hug?" Well, in so many words, of course.

I have no doubt Microsoft has learned from this experience, consumers and the IT industry are pushing back against them. Lashing out against the ridiculous hardware requirements and incompatibilities of Vista, they're starting to feel that pressure. While I'm under no delusions that Windows 7 will be any better (it will still be a fat, bloated pig), we'll start seeing changes and more options in 2 - 3 cycles down the road.

If only I could run my software natively in Linux...

Looks like people who didn't get suckered into buying Vista were right all along! ;)

As far as MS "listening", we'll see.

In a way, Every software is work in progress. There's nothing wrong with this quote - There are positive points to Vista, And there are things they feel they could have done better.

Our resolution here is to see if the next version of Windows will preserve these positives, and turn the negatives over.

A product that is out since about a year and qualified as "work in progress" :S I'm not reassured...
I know an OS is always "work in progress" but usually you don't qualify it this way

(PsykX said @ #2)
A product that is out since about a year and qualified as "work in progress" :S I'm not reassured...
I know an OS is always "work in progress" but usually you don't qualify it this way

Then technically xp is a work in progress also since there is still a sp coming out right?

At least they admit they made mistakes.

I am hoping the next os is based on Windows 2008. Take the internels of that and combine it with what makes xp good and update movie maker,media player and media center and the gui and you will have a great successor to xp that runs really smooth and a small memory foot print .

(majortom1981 said @ #1.1)
At least they admit they made mistakes.

I am hoping the next os is based on Windows 2008. Take the internels of that and combine it with what makes xp good and update movie maker,media player and media center and the gui and you will have a great successor to xp that runs really smooth and a small memory foot print .

Windows Server 2008 and Vista are the same core operating system aren't they?

(anewhope said @ #1.2)

Windows Server 2008 and Vista are the same core operating system aren't they?

They are supposed to be but many people are stating that win 2008 runs much better on the same systems as vista .So some people started using 2008 as home os's .

(majortom1981 said @ #1.3)
They are supposed to be but many people are stating that win 2008 runs much better on the same systems as vista .So some people started using 2008 as home os's .

Those people are delusional. Win2k8 is Vista SP1, and it is faster than pre-SP1 Vista. It is not faster than Vista SP1 once you disable the same services and patch TCP/IP for unlimited concurrent connections.

Contrary to this, Win2K3 is indeed faster than XP 32 because it uses a different and improved kernel, the same one used by XP 64. The difference in all these cases isn't that dramatic though, not for desktop apps.