Banned Xboxes flooding eBay and Craigslist

In the wake of the mass Xbox Live bans hundreds of Xboxs have appeared on online marketplaces such as eBay and Craigslist by gamers looking to offload their Xboxs.

In the past two weeks Microsoft has banned nearly one million users from the online gaming service after finding that they had modified their consoles to play pirated games.

Since the ban is connected to the console rather than a gamer's online account, many modified Xboxs have appeared on multiple bidding and personal sales sites.

eBay has issued a warning to potential buyers on its website to be wary of buying consoles in the wake of Microsoft's move. In a post on the website's guide section, it said: 'If you are looking to buy an Xbox 360 on eBay in the near future, ask the seller if it has been banned from Xbox.'

Curiously, most Craiglist "modded" Xbox 360 sellers are forthcoming about their console's "banned" status, whereas ebay sellers acknowledge the system modifications but often do not specify whether their system's been banned or not.

There's even a "want to buy" market on Craigslist for the banned systems. One Craiglist ad reads "I'm looking to buy one of the newly banned X-Box 360's," adding that it needs "to come with some new games such as Modern Warfare 2 and what not."

Microsoft has said that all bans are permanent to the console and no affected units will be permitted back onto Xbox Live on any account. Apparently, the race is on to offload banned systems and there doesn't seem to be a shortage of people willing to buy them.

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Why ban the Account. If they want to get back on and use the account they have to go buy another 360. Pretty smart if you ask me.

I dunno. I don't think I'd be buying a modded console... Live or no live, I don't want to not be able to play a game when the update the security or whatever...

I think ive been very very lucky!!

My 360 is almost a lunch one ( just a month or so after) I softmodded it the day i got it (back when it wasnt so easy to do!!) my xbox live is still woking!! the console has seen better days ive had rrod, gfx crashed etc but its still going!!

I do worry everytime i turn it on ill have been banned!! I guess jthe advice is dont play copied ames online!!!!!!! DHU

I would buy a banned one just to have as a sapre ( mabye £10 - £15 with psu) but any more than thats just not worth it!!

Well dont to MS for trying to do something about the modded 360's. But better luck next time!!!

"eBay has issued a warning to potential buyers on its website to be wary of buying consoles in the wake of Microsoft's move. In a post on the website's guide section, it said: 'If you are looking to buy an Xbox 360 on eBay in the near future, ask the seller if it has been banned from Xbox." yea so the seller can lie and ebay does nothing.My advice is if your looking for a XBox now buy a new one.

well anybody who got banned for a modded xbox or playing a leaked game online is a idiot , be safe play offline problem solved & for selling a banned xbox get real the most i would even pay for a banned 360 is $50

using a modified console to play pirated games is wrong and anyone caught doing it should be punished, if you can't afford the games then you don't need to play it let alone deserve to play it but if you go all legit then by all means play your games however you want.

That one million number is fake. Microsoft said one news source listed it and the media ran with it. Totally false.

The latest xbox360 ban has been reported that do: (not all the cases)
-You can't install games in the HD.
-you can't save games.
-You can't use network for streaming.
-Profile corruption.
-You can't play divx.

Rohdekill said,
I also somehow see a lot of (mysteriously) broken units being brought into Best Buy for warranty replacement

That's an excellent idea. If your Xbox gets banned, heat it up until it RROD's, then get a replacement.

for anyone that cares regarding ebay, if you buy one that's banned and pay with paypal, you can simply file a claim and get your money back (and return the console) regardless of whether or not the auction stated it was banned. remember, to ebay (and paypal) all sellers are thieves and all buyers are saints, regardless of circumstances.

I feel sorry for those that buy the banned consoles. Makes a useless point where as you can buy one yourself and mod it yourself. The benefits of having live is substantial minus the trailers/demos/gaming MP with others. Personally I need live for DLC buys, arcade games, game updates and things like Halo Waypoint for avatar goodies =3

I rather have a game that works than one that has glitch frenzied. Although most games aren't like that, you never know...

I'd imagine those that unwittingly buy a banned (ie. damaged) console on Ebay where the seller didn't explicitly state the condition of the console in the advertisement, would be entitled to dispute assistance from eBay. At the very least action could be taken against the seller's account.

TCLN Ryster said,
I'd imagine those that unwittingly buy a banned (ie. damaged) console on Ebay where the seller didn't explicitly state the condition of the console in the advertisement, would be entitled to dispute assistance from eBay. At the very least action could be taken against the seller's account.

if they sell it "AS-IS" they can do what they want. if they sell it non-DOA, they can still get away with selling a banned console while covering up the fact that it is banned. if they say outright it is a banned console, they are good.

other than that, they the seller are responsible

Wuffy said,
if they sell it "AS-IS" they can do what they want. if they sell it non-DOA, they can still get away with selling a banned console while covering up the fact that it is banned. if they say outright it is a banned console, they are good.

other than that, they the seller are responsible

All of my stuff sold on ebay has been sold on as-is basis so there is no chance of refunds or returns. I also emphasize the non-refundable and non-returnable nature of the purchase.

shinji257 said,
All of my stuff sold on ebay has been sold on as-is basis so there is no chance of refunds or returns. I also emphasize the non-refundable and non-returnable nature of the purchase.

I assume then you are based in the states, or at least outside of europe. If not, I'd be a bit more careful, especially about selling to people in the UK.

Just yet another of the many reasons to not own an overpriced gaming console in my opinion. PC's are far better and cheaper. The last gaming console I owned is the PS1, and I never did play that much due to jacked up console game pricing.

Of course the hypocritical attitude by Microsoft is stupid. They have no problem stealing code from others and slapping their own name on it.

TC17 said,
PC's are far better and cheaper.

Better? Definately. Cheaper? I'll have some of what you're smoking. Good lucking finding a PC capable of playing the latest games for £189.99 (the price of the X360 Elite on play.com)

My E8400 C2D @ 3gig and aging Nvidia 8800GT video card can play Dragon Age: Origins at highest settings perfectly smoothly. No need to buy anything new whatsoever. That game only came out a week or so ago, and the hardware in my PC is getting a little dated now, so that kind throws your theory out the window.

FloatingFatMan said,
My E8400 C2D @ 3gig and aging Nvidia 8800GT video card can play Dragon Age: Origins at highest settings perfectly smoothly. No need to buy anything new whatsoever. That game only came out a week or so ago, and the hardware in my PC is getting a little dated now, so that kind throws your theory out the window.

That's great. Now throw in the RAM, the case, the DVD drive, and the OS, and lets see if that still comes up to £189.99.

TCLN Ryster said,
Better? Definately. Cheaper? I'll have some of what you're smoking. Good lucking finding a PC capable of playing the latest games for £189.99 (the price of the X360 Elite on play.com)


Good for you if you can pay that cheap for an X360, in some markets, like here, it costs three to four times that price, with what we can buy two good computers or a really powerful one and still have some cash left.

TCLN Ryster said,
Better? Definately. Cheaper? I'll have some of what you're smoking. Good lucking finding a PC capable of playing the latest games for £189.99 (the price of the X360 Elite on play.com)


Yes, it is cheaper. You have to buy a Hi Def TV to play your console in hi def. A standard PC monitor can do that, and is usually included in the price of a PC.

The Gunslinger said,
Yes, it is cheaper. You have to buy a Hi Def TV to play your console in hi def. A standard PC monitor can do that, and is usually included in the price of a PC.

you can still use that same monitor to play your xbox games on it. ^^

Glassed Silver:mac

Impressive how little ethics these people have, they got burned for being game pirates and now they'll gladly burn other people by selling a broken console. Losers.

bob_c_b said,
Impressive how little ethics these people have, they got burned for being game pirates and now they'll gladly burn other people by selling a broken console. Losers.

The article doesnt really mention that some are selling their banned 360s for 1 buck.

Julius Caro said,
The article doesnt really mention that some are selling their banned 360s for 1 buck.


And that is the minority, most are ripping people off.

Sinster said,
Because there is a way to unbanned them.

But who wants to go through the trouble of swapping the internals? And what if it's not an HDMI Xbox? More trouble than what it's worth I'd say.

Sinster said,
Because there is a way to unbanned them.

The only way to un-ban a console is to change the hardware ids to match that of a non-banned unit. Once you are done with that you will very likely get re-banned very quickly due to the obvious chip job required to do that. You cannot do this strictly in software at all.

Doubtful, as I don't think MS has the power to control the sales of products that are under the ownership of the end user. All previous takedowns by eBay for companies have usually been someone selling company property.

Plus, craigslist is all local, so who on earth is going to monitor all of those ads? Lunacy.

dagamer34 said,
Doubtful, as I don't think MS has the power to control the sales of products that are under the ownership of the end user. All previous takedowns by eBay for companies have usually been someone selling company property.

Plus, craigslist is all local, so who on earth is going to monitor all of those ads? Lunacy.

Something you show know about Microsoft, you dont own anything when you buy from them.

Weird coincidence; I was bored so I read the local paper earlier, and in the classifieds, someone is selling a "brand new" 360 console, where in the description, the person has said it's a Jasper one, and it's offline only. Also comes with MW2 and another game (I think), and he wants £150 for it.

Good luck with that, mate!

Problem is, the latest bans disable the consoles' offline functionality as well. And just because you don't play online, you still might want to download trailers and demos from the Marketplace.

speedstr3789 said,
Not everyone cares to play online. I would be one of those people.

Me either, what little gaming I do these days I prefer to do in a good single player game. I just cant stand the little twits that play online these days.

I would like to get one of these banned units on the super cheap for a Media Center Extender.

Yeah... Playing online is not that fun if you're a casual gamer. Those kids spend all days of the week playing and then you get very frustrated because you just can't compete. 14 y'o kids don't have to work in a full time job nor have bills to pay. MS should offer more categories by age to make online play better.

what said,
Problem is, the latest bans disable the consoles' offline functionality as well. And just because you don't play online, you still might want to download trailers and demos from the Marketplace.

Downloading "trailers and demos from the Marketplace" IS an Xbox Live online function as the Marketplace is part of Xbox Live. The console ban has absolutely no effect on offline functionality contrary to what you claim. Any "trailers and demos" already on your system before the ban will continue to work.

Tekzel said,
I would like to get one of these banned units on the super cheap for a Media Center Extender.


The Media Centre Extender functionality is disabled on banned consoles so I wouldn̢۪t waste your money.

TCLN Ryster said,
Downloading "trailers and demos from the Marketplace" IS an Xbox Live online function as the Marketplace is part of Xbox Live. The console ban has absolutely no effect on offline functionality contrary to what you claim. Any "trailers and demos" already on your system before the ban will continue to work.

Which is why you're blocked from unlocking any more achievements right? Because it doesn't cripple the offline functionality? Mmkay.

InsaneNutter said,
The Media Centre Extender functionality is disabled on banned consoles so I wouldn̢۪t waste your money.

not fully true, my banned console works fine with MCE

what said,
Problem is, the latest bans disable the consoles' offline functionality as well. And just because you don't play online, you still might want to download trailers and demos from the Marketplace.

Actually not necessarily. I was over at a friends house and one of his friends brought over a banned xbox and we were able to play offline system link fine. He did have to wipe out his system cache though since I had none of the updates and he had some updates for the game. Afterward all was good to go though.

Response to '+TCLN Ryster' who tried to correct '+what' said (even though it was already correct...)) Just to make it clear;

A banned xbox 360...
* Cannot go on Xbox Live (at all so you miss out on marketplace free content as well as both of you have said already)
* Cannot install games to the HDD (offline functionality)
* Cannot use Windows Media Centre extender (offline functionality)
* Cannot be used to get achievements from backups without corrupting your profile (partial offline functionality) [I think this may corrupt your whole profile+savefiles if you try to move it]

zach_ said,
Response to '+TCLN Ryster' who tried to correct '+what' said (even though it was already correct...)) Just to make it clear;

A banned xbox 360...
* Cannot go on Xbox Live (at all so you miss out on marketplace free content as well as both of you have said already)
* Cannot install games to the HDD (offline functionality)
* Cannot use Windows Media Centre extender (offline functionality)
* Cannot be used to get achievements from backups without corrupting your profile (partial offline functionality) [I think this may corrupt your whole profile+savefiles if you try to move it]

You can still get achievements from playing any game on a banned Xbox 360. It only gets corrupt when you move it to a non-banned Xbox 360.

Though, if your Xbox is banned then you probably already know the little way to get around your profile being corrupt when you move it. Or you could just recover you profile, thus loosing those newly unlocked achievements.

Like I said though, you can still earn achievements.